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Re: brake hose brackets was Carmer uncoupling levers for C&O hopper
Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 01:48 PM, Bruce Smith wrote:
I thought they were Zamac years ago, but they've changed a lot of their parts over to plastic, so could be. Dennis |
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brake hose brackets was Carmer uncoupling levers for C&O hopper
Jared,
There are a number of brackets out there.
PSC does a nice brass one that you can get separately as well as with their hoses that is a “strap” style.
Kadee does one in plastic (and Dennis says Zamac) that is a cast bracket offset to one side
HiTech offers a brass one that is a cast version that has a bigger drop than the PSC and has a strengthening rib
Yarmouth offers the bent strap style with the additional ability to add a separate retaining loop of wire for the hose. Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
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Re: Carmer uncoupling levers for C&O hopper
Curt Fortenberry
Sorry I was sure I had that as a private reply. Curt Fortenberry |
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brake hose brackets was Carmer uncoupling levers for C&O hopper
Jared,
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There are a number of brackets out there.
PSC does a nice brass one that you can get separately as well as with their hoses that is a “strap” style.
Kadee does one in plastic (and Dennis says Zamac) that is a cast bracket offset to one side
HiTech offers a brass one that is a cast version that has a bigger drop than the PSC and has a strengthening rib
Yarmouth offers the bent strap style with the additional ability to add a separate retaining loop of wire for the hose. Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
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Re: Carmer uncoupling levers for C&O hopper
Jared Harper
Doesn't the PSC brake hose come with this bracket?
Jared Harper |
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Re: Carmer uncoupling levers for C&O hopper
Jack Burgess <jack@...>
I bought a few dozen air hose brackets from PSC years ago when they first came out and it was PSC part number 39156. It looks like casting 1.
Jack Burgess
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Bruce Smith wrote: With that decided, now I have to figure out how to model the air hose bracket on the end of the car ;) Photo? If it's the cast style the Zamac part Kadee makes should be pretty close. If a bent strap, the PSC part I did the pattern for (I forget what number they gave it) is almost universal. |
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Re: Carmer uncoupling levers for C&O hopper
S. Busch
Some very nice brass HO Carmer uncoupling levers are available from Micheal
Watnoski at Free State Systems in Maryland:
Cheers -
Steve Busch
Duncan, SC |
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Re: Carmer uncoupling levers for C&O hopper
Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Bruce Smith wrote:
With that decided, now I have to figure out how to model the air hose bracket on the end of the car ;)Photo? If it's the cast style the Zamac part Kadee makes should be pretty close. If a bent strap, the PSC part I did the pattern for (I forget what number they gave it) is almost universal. Brake Hose Brackets PSC Part Dennis Dennis Storzek |
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Re: Carmer uncoupling levers for C&O hopper
Curt, Folks,
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Based on the photos, I’m going to go with a combination of lifting lever 2, operating lever 1. I don’t think that these are an exact match for the C&O cars, but they are pretty close. The operating lever has a handle that is well below the pivot,
as does OL1, although the angled section on the prototype appears to be a bit more out from the pivot. The lifting lever is straight or nearly straight and LL2 seems the closest for that.
With that decided, now I have to figure out how to model the air hose bracket on the end of the car ;)
Regards Bruce
Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Re: Rock Island Bulk Flour Box Cars 47000 series
rwitt_2000
Thanks, for the great feedback. These are interesting conversions of the prototype. Often such conversions were done for a specific Rock Island customer, is that the case for these cars (i.e. would they ever be found off-line)?
Bob Witt |
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Re: Carmer uncoupling levers for C&O hopper
Curt Fortenberry
Bruce, Did not any of those YMW levers work for this car? I have this kit but haven't started it yet. Curt Fortenberry PS: Still tentative but I might be in Auburn the 2nd week of October. I have a couple of work trips stateside a week apart so I'm thinking of visiting my folks in Spanish Fort and I haven't been to the alma mater in a couple decades. |
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PRR freight car books
I’m going to guess that we’re about 1.5 to 2 years out…
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Regards
Bruce
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PRR freight car books
pennsylvania1954
Fabulous! Can you give a general idea of when we can see it, too?
Steve Hoxie Pensacola FL |
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PRR freight car books
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Richard;
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Good guess..... Elden Gatwood -----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via Groups.Io Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 6:14 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PRR freight car books Box cars? Richard Townsend Lincoln City, OR -----Original Message----- From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@...> To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>; realstmfc <realstmfc@groups.io> Sent: Fri, Aug 10, 2018 5:26 am Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PRR freight car books Glad you are enjoying them, Richard! I am working on the next book. Elden Gatwood |
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Re: Tank cars with large side vents
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Eric and List Members,
Thanks Eric for the Owl Mountain link - the Owl
Mountain page is a small education in itself!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Tank cars with large side vents
Eric Hansmann
Owl Mountain Models produces HO scale brass castings for these vents. Scroll down on their Detail Parts page to see them http://www.owlmtmodels.com/detail_parts/detail_parts.html Eric Hansmann On August 12, 2018 at 7:19 PM Garth Groff <sarahsan@...> wrote: |
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Re: Rock Island Bulk Flour Box Cars 47000 series
RI 47000-47020 were converted for bulk flour service by the
railroad in 1956 by locating two round hatches on raised squares one on either
side of the running board and either side of the car center line. A shield
shaped hatch was added in the lower left corner of either side and the car was
completely lined with plywood (sides, ends and ceiling) attached to the side
posts, etc, in lieu of the old wood lining. This was then coated with a
polyester sealer applied over fiber glass netting. The original cars came
from the 145000-145999 series, 10'6" inside height boxcars built by Pressed
Steel Car company in 1940.
I attach Rock Island photos from the rebuilding project before
repainting.
Twenty more cars were done in 1957 and 1957 extending the
series to 47040. These cars used 1/4 inch thick MET-L WOOD faced with
0.020 aluminum applied over the original lining.
Ross Dando made a run of resin castings some years ago to
provide these roof hatches and unloading doors. You can contact him to get
a set at twinstarcars at yahoo dot com. Please don't reply to the
listing. He won't see it.
Steve Hile From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of mopacfirst Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 9:25 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rock Island Bulk Flour Box Cars 47000 series The caption suggests they were made obsolete by covered hopper cars, but I'd think it would have been primarily Airslide cars that would have displaced these. If you model the right period of time, you might see these cars on a flour mill loading (shipping) siding along with a few Airslides and boxcars for bagged flour. Only hard part about the conversion might be the stenciling. Ron Merrick |
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Re: Tank cars with large side vents
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Mike,
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I've never heard of a dome with a side vent (No doubt here comes the lesson!). Do you mean an "L" or "Y" shaped vent on the dome facing the car end? If so, yes, they were common on cars built up into the early 1920s or so. See my Album #1, WP Tank Cars in our photo section to see what I mean. If this is what you mean, F&C makes AC&F 8K tanks with these vents in both high and low-walkway models. Many of these tanks were still in use until after WWII, and in MW service into the 1980s. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🏴 On 8/12/18 6:00 PM, Mike Calo wrote:
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Tank cars with large side vents
Mike Calo <michaelcalo3403@...>
Hello group -
Does anyone know of a source for an HO scale model of a tank car with a large side vent on the dome? Thanks in advance for your help and guidance. Mike Calo Odenton MD (the town a railroad built) |
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Re: M&StL 24562 4C-XM-1 Box Car
Always some interesting and different seems to show up on SS cars. Your build certainly shows well against the photos you posted, Lester. Thank you for posting those and the support information. Well done! Jim Kubanick Morgantown WV On Friday, August 10, 2018 5:18 PM, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote: I love Single Sheathed boxcars and the Granger RR"s examples like this are especially appealing. Well done commentary on your appealing build Lester.
Bill Welch |
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