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Re: Caboose Stop Hobbies U tube

Clark Propst
 

I was looking at the wrong time. They’re about 8 mins in.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Amarillo Railroad Museum FW&D Covered Hopper

Jerry Michels
 

Hey Eric, can you point me to the source of your information about the cars originally arriving with black roofs and tops and the repainting to mineral red?  I'd like to nail this down.

Jerry Michels


Re: Amarillo Railroad Museum FW&D Covered Hopper

Jerry Michels
 

Just to chime in on these cars.  We worked closely with the BRHS and InterMountain, and the consensus was to have them in the all-mineral red scheme.  If they originally had black roofs and bottoms, it didn't last too long.  We  queried this list before the project, but didn't receive any information.  That's not a jab.  But we tried our best to get things right for customers. 

Jerry Michels
Amarillo Railroad Museum


Re: Northern Pacific Automobile Box Car NP 8029

Tim O'Connor
 


Yes, you have it right about the beaded siding.

By "V" groove are you talking about beveled edges of the boards so that when they are
joined together there is a shallow gap between them?

Because, yeah, the drawing does not show it, because it was never a style that would be
used on horizontal wood sheathing, which was tight fitting and shed water. Any gaps would
fill with dirt and collect moisture. A large number of models have unrealistic wood sides that
exaggerate the boards.

Attached a photo of what new horizontal sheathing usually looks like.



On 7/18/2022 5:28 PM, Robert kirkham wrote:

I'm not sure if it is beaded siding or something else.  Describing what I see in the builders photo, I'd say the appearance is something like the vertical siding with the milled centre groove used on some reefers.  (Is that the kind of beaded siding you're referring to Tim?). In any event, the drawing and the in-service photo don't show these characteristics.  Changed siding over time wouldn't surprise anyone, but the drawing throws that notion into question.  Meanwhile, closer scrutiny of the car side lettering in the 3/4 angle shot does not have subtle dips and jogs as one might expect with a "v" groove pattern. 

Rob
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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Amarillo Railroad Museum FW&D Covered Hopper

Charlie Duckworth
 

Thanks 
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: NYC S-96012

robertb@smartchat.net.au
 

That came out to small. I try again as an attachment.

Robert Bogie

On 20/07/2022 12:32 am, robertb@... wrote:

Mike,

This is the explanation from the Canada Southern website:-

Robert Bogie

On 19/07/2022 11:57 pm, Michael Palmieri wrote:

I’ve come across an ACF builder’s photo from March 1926 of an NYC boxcar numbered S-96012.  What is the significance of the letter S?

 

Mike Palmieri – Aubrey, Texas


Re: NYC S-96012

robertb@smartchat.net.au
 

Mike,

This is the explanation from the Canada Southern website:-

Robert Bogie

On 19/07/2022 11:57 pm, Michael Palmieri wrote:

I’ve come across an ACF builder’s photo from March 1926 of an NYC boxcar numbered S-96012.  What is the significance of the letter S?

 

Mike Palmieri – Aubrey, Texas


Caboose Stop Hobbies U tube

Clark Propst
 

One of their craziest shows yet, but the show their resin kits at about 20 mins in...I think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTVVKPnNgN0&t=29s

Clark


Re: Amarillo Railroad Museum FW&D Covered Hopper

Eric Mumper
 

Charlie,

Other way around.  They came out of the shop with black car cement.  The color picture on p99 of RP Cyc 30 is in original paint and clearly shows a black roof and black hopper bottoms.

Eric Mumper


NYC S-96012

Michael Palmieri
 

I’ve come across an ACF builder’s photo from March 1926 of an NYC boxcar numbered S-96012.  What is the significance of the letter S?

 

Mike Palmieri – Aubrey, Texas


Re: Amarillo Railroad Museum FW&D Covered Hopper

Charlie Duckworth
 

Eric
Reading your posting I’m reading the cars came delivered in overall mineral red and the railroad later applied the black cement to the roof and outlet gates?
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Amarillo Railroad Museum FW&D Covered Hopper

Eric Mumper
 

Charlie,

The only color picture in original paint of these cars that I am aware of is in RP Cyc 30 on p99.  Better pictures of the later red post 1958 paint scheme are in there and Burlington Bulletin 20.  The assumption is the Q did not suddenly start painting the roofs and hopper bottoms black in 1958 and had been painting the mineral red cars that way for a while.  This only applies to the original paint out of the shop.  Later repaints may have ended up all mineral red.

Eric Mumper


Re: Amarillo Railroad Museum FW&D Covered Hopper

Eric Mumper
 

Bill,

I have 2 of these covered hoppers and they will need some touch-up when I am done.  The color is almost identical to the custom run of old Eastern Car Works cars I had done almost 30 years ago.  Try Modelflex 16-14 light tuscan oxide red.

Eric Mumper


Re: Amarillo Railroad Museum FW&D Covered Hopper

Charlie Duckworth
 

Gary
I’ve airbrushed TruColor’s Black and it covers well but I’m going to use Vallejo’s acrylic black as it leaves no brush marks to avoid masking.  I assume the hatches were also black as part of the roof?  With the hopper bottoms and outlet gates being black are there any photos around for reference for painting?
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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Rebuilt Milwaukee Road Box Cars

Philip Dove
 

Brilliant series of pictures, but in the last two the picture is soooo... wrong. Paint is way too shiny, looks to be the wrong shade and not even subtle weathering. How unrealistic! 


Gasoline pipe lines

Rupert Gamlen
 

Reference the recent discussion about WWII tank cars and pipe lines, here’s an article from 1930 looking at that issue.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ


Re: Amarillo Railroad Museum FW&D Covered Hopper

Jerry Michels
 

Bill, you can try InterMountain, maybe.  The color is the standard CB&Q freightcar red if that is any help.  Sorry for your problem. Jerry Michels


Re: WWII oil transport

Steve and Barb Hile
 

What a cool picture, Tim.  Thanks for sharing.

 

A couple of interesting things to note, even though car numbers are not legible.

 

 

The arrows point to a pair of the 6500 gallon Type X cars that Nelson Moyer has shared his challenge and ultimate triumph building the RCW kit.  Immediately adjacent to the nearer X are a 10000 gallon and 6500 gallon car next to one another.  The next car to the right is another Type X, probably 8K gallons.

 

As Bruce has pointed out, these may well be empties waiting in the yard for their turn at the loading platforms.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2022 2:55 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] WWII oil transport

 


Someone mentioned Sinclair on the UP in Wyoming. This is CNW's yard serving Standard Oil
in Casper Wyoming. These would almost all be UTLX cars. Possibly many of these can be modeled
in HO from resin kits. It's from 1948 according to the archive -- appears that there was once a
need for a larger yard than it needed in 1948. Or maybe it's seasonal?


On 7/18/2022 3:02 PM, Tom Madden via groups.io wrote:

The Ralph Hallock photo collection at the Colorado Railroad Museum contains quite a few photos of wartime oil trains. Two examples attached. Most were taken in 1943 (date not further defined) on either the CNJ/LV/RDG/B&O main line in north central NJ, or on the B&A in Chatham NY. All appear to be of westbound empties. There is also one taken on the B&O at Harpers Ferry WV behind an EM-1 in June 1944. Not a lot of uniformity to the tank cars, except for color.

Tom Madden

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Rebuilt Milwaukee Road Box Cars

Jeff Helm
 

The grease and dirt build up from leaking solid wheel bearings is impressive!  
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Cheers

Jeff Helm
The Olympic Peninsula Branch
https://olympicpeninsulabranch.blogspot.com/


Frisco USRA Box Car SL-SF 128890 CT

Richard Wilkens
 

Photo of Frisco USRA box car SL-SF 128890 CT built by Pacific Car & Foundry. Pacific Northwest Railroad Archive Collection.

Richard Wilkens

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