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O scale bridge girders

Brian Carlson
 

I need some help from the resident o scalers. I need to build a few 2 rail o scale thru girder bridges to carry stmfc and I am having trouble locating suitable girder material. Everything I can find seem to be for the toy or tinplate market. Are there any cottage industries out there that make bridge girders for o scale. May be best to respond off list.

Brian J. Carlson
Prrk41361 at yahoo.com.


Re: New Prototype Railroad Profile and restocks

Paul Koehler
 

Bill:

 

The F-70-7 TOFC cars are correct as sold; it’s the F-70-10 that a retrofit kit is being proposed.

 

Paul

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 11:07 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] New Prototype Railroad Profile and restocks

 

 

Paul,

 

You may have in tended your note about correcting the SP F-70-7 and -10 early piggyback hardware as a "private" message, but I am glad it slipped through.  You give me a glimmer (slight) of mope we might get those corrections.  Count me in as a strong supporter of that endeavor!

 

Bill Decker

McMinnville, OR


Re: New Prototype Railroad Profile and restocks

Bill Decker
 

Paul,

You may have in tended your note about correcting the SP F-70-7 and -10 early piggyback hardware as a "private" message, but I am glad it slipped through.  You give me a glimmer (slight) of mope we might get those corrections.  Count me in as a strong supporter of that endeavor!

Bill Decker
McMinnville, OR


Re: Clinton & Oklahoma western Howe truss boxcars

Robert Heninger
 

Hello,

The Clinton & Oklahoma Western cars are illustrated on page 103 of John Dobyne's boxcar book. The builder's photos are attributed to "American Car and Foundry, courtesy ACF Industries." There are no photos of the cars repainted as ATSF class Bx-22 in the book.

Regards,
Bob Heninger
Minot, ND


Re: Abbreviations?

Dave Lawler
 

Got it. Thank you Ben.


Re: Clinton & Oklahoma western Howe truss boxcars

Benjamin Hom
 

Brad Andonian asked:
"In my continuing quest for small road boxcars, I am seeking an image of the Clinton & Oklahoma Western [single sheathed] Howe truss boxcar. Sunshine referred to this road in a listing of models. Any help is appreciated as I would like to get decals made."

Good luck!  There were only 20 of these cars, and the only photo of these cars I've seen is as ATSF Class Bx-22 in Stephen Priest's ATSF Color Boxcar book.  (ATSF bought the Clinton & Oklahoma Western in 1928.)  There might be a builders' photo in John Dobyne's Santa Fe Boxcar book, but mine is in storage.  If someone can pull their copy and check, that would be a big help.

Sunshine flyer here:


Ben Hom


Re: Abbreviations?

Benjamin Hom
 

Dave Lawler asked:
"I recently saw an alphabetical listing by railroad of the abbreviations and dates for locations of freight car service/repair. I thought I had "bookmarked" it but, cannot find it now. Can anyone direct me to this list again?"

Go to the group files section and do a CTRL+F search for "Station & Reweigh Symbols.xls".


Ben Hom


Clinton & Oklahoma western Howe truss boxcars

Brad Andonian
 

Gentlemen,

In my continuing quest for small road boxcars, I am seeking an image of the Clinton & Oklahoma western o/b Howe trust boxcar.    Sunshine referred to this road in a listing of models.    Any help is appreciated as I would like to get decals made.

Sincerely,


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Well flats, depressed flats, and shipments (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

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Thanks, Todd! I look forward to researching that operation.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 6:32 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [STMFC] Well flats, depressed flats, and shipments (UNCLASSIFIED)



The Central of Georgia had 25 depressed center flats for use in transformer service from the General Electric plant in Rome Ga.. There were 5 - 125 ton 6 axle cars built in 1953 and 20 - 70 ton 4 axle cars built in 1956. These were all constructed in the C of G shops from GSC supplied car bodies.


The Southern Railway constructed a track crossing the C of G to service this facility as well.

Todd Horton


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From: "'Gatwood, Elden J CIV CESAW CESAD (US)' elden.j.gatwood@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
To: "STMFC@..." <STMFC@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 2:10 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Well flats, depressed flats, and shipments (UNCLASSIFIED)



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Gang;

Following up the VERY gratifying conversation on diagonal plates loaders:

Some recent discussion on this subject got me into a more involved discussion with various folks about what well flats/depressed center/and other specialty flats were created for, and what they moved, and when. I am aware of the PRR and P&LE fleets of specialty flats, but not of others. What can you all tell us what you know?

Also, F&C makes a model of the famous B&M well flats, which I finished but did not get the complete story on. Anyone know what is in that mysterious box?

Thanks!

Elden

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Well flats, depressed flats, and shipments (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

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Thank you, very much!

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 8:04 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [STMFC] Well flats, depressed flats, and shipments (UNCLASSIFIED)



Eldon,

During the war my father worked as an inspector at the GE Lynn River Works. He was a GE employee but reported directly to an Assistant Sec. of the Navy. The B&M well flats were used to carry all sorts of gears and screws for the Nary's light cruisers and to the best of my knowledge were built with that purpose in mind. Ben
is correct in noting that GE purchased some of the B&M well flats.


Hope this helps with your question.




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Abbreviations?

Dave Lawler
 

I recently saw an alphabetical listing by railroad of the abbreviations and dates for locations of freight car service/repair. I thought I had "bookmarked" it but, cannot find it now. Can anyone direct me to this list again?
Thanks for any help,
Dave Lawler



Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Well flats, depressed flats, and shipments (UNCLASSIFIED)

riverman_vt@...
 

Eldon,

    During the war my father worked as an inspector at the GE Lynn River Works. He was a GE employee but reported directly to an Assistant Sec. of the Navy. The B&M well flats were used to carry all sorts of gears and screws for the Nary's light cruisers and to the best of my knowledge were built with that purpose in mind. Ben
is correct in noting that GE purchased some of the B&M well flats.

Hope this helps with your question.


Re: Digest Number 10679

Brian Termunde
 

Well I was asking specifically about Espee cars, HOWEVER, I did find Tim's info on the Q Cars interested and perhaps useful to my friend, so I was very happy to forward it to him.

I haven't heard back from him as yet, so I don't know what he'd decide, or if he has decided.

Just for fun, apparently there was ONE black SP covered hopper, so I did forward that to my friend in case it works for him. Here's a link;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/N-SCALE-ATLAS-SOUTHERN-PACIFIC-3-BAY-COVERED-HOPPER-/122307231962?hash=item1c7a1440da:g:miUAAOSwnHZYTgmF

or 

https://goo.gl/bre77v

I would NOT, however, suggest taking it to Florida or similar venues!

I WOULD like, however, to thank everyone for their assistance, we both really appreciate it! 

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah


-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC
To: STMFC
Sent: Tue, Jan 31, 2017 11:19 am
Subject: [STMFC] Digest Number 10679



6a. Re: Black Southern Pacific 3-Bay Covered Hoppers?
From: Tim O&#39;Connor
6b. Re: Black Southern Pacific 3-Bay Covered Hoppers?
From: Tony Thompson
6c. Re: Black Southern Pacific 3-Bay Covered Hoppers?
From: gsc3
6d. Re: Black Southern Pacific 3-Bay Covered Hoppers?
From: Tim O&#39;Connor
6e. Re: Black Southern Pacific 3-Bay Covered Hoppers?
From: Tony Thompson


Messages
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6a. Re: Black Southern Pacific 3-Bay Covered Hoppers?
Posted by: "Tim O&#39;Connor" timboconnor@... cf5250
Date: Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:22 pm ((PST))

There were black CB&Q Pullman Standard 2893's assigned to loading on the SP in Luning, Nevada.
Series 85050-85064. Athearn produced a model of these cars in one of their early 2893 runs.

Tim O'Connor


>>I have a friend who is doing a mid to late 1950's Espee three bay covered hopper for someone else. It was already partially finished in black, and he's hoping not to have to strip and repaint it.
>>The person he's doing the car for is not a serious modelers such as the members of this group, so the model is intended only to be representative of an SP car, not an exact model, however, my friend doesn't want to letter it SP if they didn't have any black cars.
>>
>>Any and all assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> No black triple covered hoppers.
>
>Tony Thompson




Messages in this topic (9)
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6b. Re: Black Southern Pacific 3-Bay Covered Hoppers?
Posted by: "Tony Thompson" tony@... sigpress
Date: Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:20 pm ((PST))

Tim O'Connor wrote:

> There were black CB&Q Pullman Standard 2893's assigned to loading on the SP in Luning, Nevada.
> Series 85050-85064. Athearn produced a model of these cars in one of their early 2893 runs.
>

I think the question was about black SP hoppers, not black CB&Q hoppers.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


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6c. Re: Black Southern Pacific 3-Bay Covered Hoppers?
Posted by: gsc3@... gsc3
Date: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:04 pm ((PST))

Perhaps if the guy doesn't want to strip the paint, then he could letter it for the CB&Q and run it on an Espee layout? Just reflecting.

George Courtney

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6d. Re: Black Southern Pacific 3-Bay Covered Hoppers?
Posted by: "Tim O&#39;Connor" timboconnor@... cf5250
Date: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:51 am ((PST))

Tony

You probably were not paying attention Tony, so let me help you -

"I have a friend who is doing a mid to late 1950's Espee three bay covered hopper for someone else.
It was already partially finished in black, and he's hoping not to have to strip and repaint it. "


I provided information for someone who models the SP who does not want to strip and repaint
a model, but the model would still be completely appropriate for an SP modeler. Sorry for trying to
actually help someone, rather than regurgitating information that is widely available.

Tim O'Connor

________________________________________________________________________
6e. Re: Black Southern Pacific 3-Bay Covered Hoppers?
Posted by: "Tony Thompson" tony@... sigpress
Date: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:19 am ((PST))

Tim O'Connor wrote:

> Tony
> You probably were not paying attention Tony, so let me help you -
>

You evidently don't understand the original question (I have no idea how much attention you pay), so I have nothing to add.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


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Re: Well flats, depressed flats, and shipments (UNCLASSIFIED)

Todd Horton
 

The Central of Georgia had 25 depressed center flats for use in transformer service from the General Electric plant in Rome Ga.. There were 5 - 125 ton 6 axle cars built in 1953 and 20 - 70 ton 4 axle cars built in 1956. These were all constructed in the C of G shops from GSC supplied car bodies.

The Southern Railway constructed a track crossing the C of G to service this facility as well.
 
Todd Horton



From: "'Gatwood, Elden J CIV CESAW CESAD (US)' elden.j.gatwood@... [STMFC]"
To: "STMFC@..." <STMFC@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 2:10 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Well flats, depressed flats, and shipments (UNCLASSIFIED)

 
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Gang;

Following up the VERY gratifying conversation on diagonal plates loaders:

Some recent discussion on this subject got me into a more involved discussion with various folks about what well flats/depressed center/and other specialty flats were created for, and what they moved, and when. I am aware of the PRR and P&LE fleets of specialty flats, but not of others. What can you all tell us what you know?

Also, F&C makes a model of the famous B&M well flats, which I finished but did not get the complete story on. Anyone know what is in that mysterious box?

Thanks!

Elden

CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIED



Re: New Prototype Railroad Profile and restocks

Tim O'Connor
 


WHOA! Paul can you elaborate? I can deal with poor instructions (an occupational hazard of
our hobby) but what is wrong with the parts?? I have twelve F-70-10 TOFC kits to build...

Tim O'Connor





Ted:
 
Have you considered doing one of these on the SPH&TS F-70-7 and F-70-10 piggyback cars?  The instructions are bad and the deck and parts supplied with the F-70-10 car are wrong.  I�m trying to get the society to have Jimmy Booth to run a correction kit for the 10�s so that they can be done correctly.
 
Paul


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Well flats, depressed flats, and shipments (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

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Thanks, Ben! That all sounds right on.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:32 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [STMFC] Well flats, depressed flats, and shipments (UNCLASSIFIED)



Elden Gatwood asked:
"Also, F&C makes a model of the famous B&M well flats, which I finished but did not get the complete story on. Anyone know what is in that mysterious box?"

Either a large reduction gear or turbine components. B&M served GE Lynn MA, which manufactured these until shifting to jet engine production and becoming a division of GE Aviation. At least two of these cars were sold to GE.


Ben Hom




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Re: High Detail semi-scale wheel sets by IMRC

Tim O'Connor
 


Get a room, guys! :-)

I received my wheels and I must say they do look nice, and I plan
to put them onto tank car models and maybe a caboose or three.

I also WEIGHED them, because I thought they might weigh slightly less
due to the extra material removed. However I found that 24 of the new
wheels weighed 2.7 oz while 24 Reboxx wheels of the same axle length
only weighed 2.3 oz. Weird. I have no explanation for it - the wheelsets
are identical in every respect other than the extra milling of the rear
face on the new wheels. Maybe the Reboxx wheels have hollow axles, like
the prototype?

Tim O'Connor




Hi, and welcome back!

2  @  $11  ............................................$22
shipping 1st class mail  ......................$2.85
total if paid by check                  $24.85

Your payment can reach me at:

Andy Carlson
111 S Encinal Ave
Ojai CA 93023

Thanks,
-Andy



From: "jnbower1@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 3:31 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: High Detail semi-scale wheel sets by IMRC

 
Hello Andy Carlson.
I'm interested in buying two of the 12 packs of the new High Detail intermountain wheel sets noted in your Jan. 31 email, at $ 11.00/12 pack +shipping. Please let me know your complete off-line mail address, so I can send my order with a personal check. Thanks, Joe Bower   jnbower1@... 

P.S .Several  times I've purchased various Tahoe Trucks from you, and always enjoyed buying from you, but now can't find your address..


Re: New Prototype Railroad Profile and restocks

Paul Koehler
 

All:

 

Sorry about this post it was supposed to go to just Ted.

 

Paul C. Koehler

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 11:33 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] New Prototype Railroad Profile and restocks

 

 

Ted:

 

Have you considered doing one of these on the SPH&TS F-70-7 and F-70-10 piggyback cars?  The instructions are bad and the deck and parts supplied with the F-70-10 car are wrong.  I’m trying to get the society to have Jimmy Booth to run a correction kit for the 10’s so that they can be done correctly.

 

Paul

 


Re: New Prototype Railroad Profile and restocks

Paul Koehler
 

Ted:

 

Have you considered doing one of these on the SPH&TS F-70-7 and F-70-10 piggyback cars?  The instructions are bad and the deck and parts supplied with the F-70-10 car are wrong.  I’m trying to get the society to have Jimmy Booth to run a correction kit for the 10’s so that they can be done correctly.

 

Paul

 


Re: Well flats, depressed flats, and shipments (UNCLASSIFIED)

Benjamin Hom
 

Elden Gatwood asked:
"Also, F&C makes a model of the famous B&M well flats, which I finished but did not get the complete story on. Anyone know what is in that mysterious box?"

Either a large reduction gear or turbine components.  B&M served GE Lynn MA, which manufactured these until shifting to jet engine production and becoming a division of GE Aviation.  At least two of these cars were sold to GE.


Ben Hom

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