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Re: Cocoa Beach Question

Alexander Schneider Jr
 

Without attribution it would have been innocuous. 

Alex Schneider 



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From: "destorzek@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
Date: 12/9/16 9:27 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Cocoa Beach Question

Alex, lighten up. The PC police seem to have recently lost their franchise. The "firstest with the mostest" quote long ago entered the common language, most often used without attribution.

Dennis Storzek


22 resin kits for sale - F&C and Westerfield

Jim Hayes
 

I'm selling more resin kits, Westerfield and F&C this time. See my list at sunshinekits.com/sale6.pdf

Jim Hayes


Re: Fowler box car kits

Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Very nice work Eric.

On Fri, 9 Dec, 2016 at 15:32, Schleigh Mike mike_schleigh@... [STMFC]
wrote:
 

Hello Eric!

Your write up describing your Fowler progress with these two kits is helpful and inspiring.  Those minor hic-ups with the fitting up of the various corners is good warning for all of us.  We may not always find the parts matching perfectly and we need to watch for this and take corrective action as best we can, sometimes less than fully satisfied.

Thanks for sharing!

Regards from Grove City, Penna.  Mike Schleigh



From: "Eric Hansmann eric@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC YahooGroup ; "1914to1940RRingr@..." <1914to1940RRing@...>; resinfreightcars@...; proto-layouts@...
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 10:03 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Fowler box car kits

 
The kit-building bug bit me recently so an HO scale Westerfield 36-foot Fowler box car was pulled from the pile and built. I kept rolling with another kit build of a similar car. Two more box cars are now ready to use! Check out the tips, techniques, and details on my DesignBuildOp blog.


Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX



Re: Fowler box car kits

Schleigh Mike
 

Hello Eric!

Your write up describing your Fowler progress with these two kits is helpful and inspiring.  Those minor hic-ups with the fitting up of the various corners is good warning for all of us.  We may not always find the parts matching perfectly and we need to watch for this and take corrective action as best we can, sometimes less than fully satisfied.

Thanks for sharing!

Regards from Grove City, Penna.  Mike Schleigh



From: "Eric Hansmann eric@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC YahooGroup ; "1914to1940RRingr@..." <1914to1940RRing@...>; resinfreightcars@...; proto-layouts@...
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 10:03 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Fowler box car kits

 
The kit-building bug bit me recently so an HO scale Westerfield 36-foot Fowler box car was pulled from the pile and built. I kept rolling with another kit build of a similar car. Two more box cars are now ready to use! Check out the tips, techniques, and details on my DesignBuildOp blog.


Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX



Re: Cocoa Beach Question

destorzek@...
 

Alex, lighten up. The PC police seem to have recently lost their franchise. The "firstest with the mostest" quote long ago entered the common language, most often used without attribution.

Dennis Storzek


Re: New Article About Boxcar Roofs. . .

Schleigh Mike
 

Hello Group!

Regarding this question on the terminology of the stuff outboard of the running board on boxcar roofs, going over to the ladders, my 1926 Railway Training Institute "List of Parts" refers to this as "Latitudinal Running Board" and that stuff along the center of the car as not "Running Board" but "Running Boards."  

Happy accurate railroading terminology from snowy western Penna.----Mike Schleigh



From: "TIMOTHY O'CONNOR timboconnor@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New Article About Boxcar Roofs. . .

 
Good catch, Dave.

In my 1961 CBC, in the same section, it says the same thing. And it also says

  "Running boards shall be made of wood and securely fastened to the car."

In parentheses is mentioned that "Metal running boards permitted"...

I guess the "cut and paste" phenomenon didn't just begin with computers and word processors.

Tim :-)



The only examples I have found of these terms is in ADVERTISING in the CBC. There are no glossary entries for either longitudinal or latitudinal.

Only partly true.  In my 1931 CBC, these terms are not in the glossary.  But on page 1106, in the section on A.R.A Standards for Safety Appliances, there they are, plain as day.  A few inches above "Sill Steps".

(Which is not to say that I particularly like them).

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA




Fowler box car kits

Eric Hansmann
 

The kit-building bug bit me recently so an HO scale Westerfield 36-foot Fowler box car was pulled from the pile and built. I kept rolling with another kit build of a similar car. Two more box cars are now ready to use! Check out the tips, techniques, and details on my DesignBuildOp blog.

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2016/12/09/resin-freight-car-kit-builds-part-8/



Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX


Re: Cocoa Beach Question

Alexander Schneider Jr
 

To quote Wikipedia,

Nathan Bedford Forrest, called Bedford Forrest in his lifetime, was a lieutenant general in the Confederate Army during the American Civil War. He is remembered as a self-educated, brutal, and innovative cavalry leader during the war and as a leading Southern advocate in the postwar years. He was a pledged delegate from Tennessee to the New York Democratic national convention of 4 July 1868. He served as the first Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, but later distanced himself from the organization.

Quoting such a person, without any plausible connection to steam era freight cars, seems divisive and contrary to the intent of this group. Heinrich Himmler may have said something about freight cars but quoting it would be obnoxious and out of context.

Alex Schneider

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On Thu, 12/8/16, 'John C. La Rue, Jr.' MOFWCABOOSE@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [STMFC] Cocoa Beach Question
To: STMFC@...
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2016, 11:22 PM

And like General Nathaniel Bedford Forrest, he will be there "firstest with the mostest".

 

John C. La Rue, Jr.

Bonita Springs, FL


Re: Wichita Falls & Southern Box Car

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Bob,

Here's a brief history of the WF&S: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_Falls_and_Southern_Railroad

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 12/8/16 11:21 PM, rwitt_2000@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

What happen to this railroad and were these box cars built by AC&F as an add-on to another order or Lot #?

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-437EFQ-QP6A/VsdnSpjfVnI/AAAAAAAAAVk/o7pXYcrS_dg/s1600/WFS%2Bboxcar.jpg

 


Regards,

Bob Witt




Re: Cocoa Beach Question

John C. La Rue, Jr. <MOFWCABOOSE@...>
 

If I can make it. There are always a certain number of hoops to jump through every year and any of them could prevent me from getting there, but currently I plan to be at the usual location.
 
John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL
 
 

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Subject: RE: [STMFC] Cocoa Beach Question

 
John,
 
                Will you be selling photos at Prototype Rails?
 
Regards,
 
-Jeff
 
 
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And like General Nathaniel Bedford Forrest, he will be there "firstest with the mostest".
 
John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL
 
 
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Kevin Sprayberry asks:

"Can anyone tell me if Bobs photos will be in Cocoa Beach?"

Yes, he will be.here.

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Re: Cocoa Beach Question

Aley, Jeff A
 

John,

 

                Will you be selling photos at Prototype Rails?

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

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And like General Nathaniel Bedford Forrest, he will be there "firstest with the mostest".

 

John C. La Rue, Jr.

Bonita Springs, FL

 

 

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Kevin Sprayberry asks:

"Can anyone tell me if Bobs photos will be in Cocoa Beach?"

Yes, he will be.here.

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Re: Cocoa Beach Question

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And like General Nathaniel Bedford Forrest, he will be there "firstest with the mostest".
 
John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL
 
 

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Kevin Sprayberry asks:

"Can anyone tell me if Bobs photos will be in Cocoa Beach?"

Yes, he will be.here.

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Wichita Falls & Southern Box Car

rwitt_2000
 

What happen to this railroad and were these box cars built by AC&F as an add-on to another order or Lot #?

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-437EFQ-QP6A/VsdnSpjfVnI/AAAAAAAAAVk/o7pXYcrS_dg/s1600/WFS%2Bboxcar.jpg

 


Regards,

Bob Witt



Re: Placement - Old Brake Wheels

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
At least in the case of the PRR, many early boxcars had TWO brakewheels - one brakewheel with a vertical shaft, and a second with a horizontal shaft on the other end of the car.
 
This can be seen by inspecting the diagram for the boxcar class in the link below:
 
 
I think this was called a tunnel brake.
 
The first link you provided shows a NCR boxcar - Northern Central was a part of the larger PENNSYLVANIA LINES system of the time, and the car would likely have been built to a PRR design.
 
It is difficult to make out the reporting marks on the boxcar in your second link, but the writing on the boxcar side could possibly read PENNSYLVANIA LINES - if so, this would also be a PRR design car.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 

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Subject: [STMFC] Placement - Old Brake Wheels

I noticed these photos on the Historic Pittsburgh website. The placement of the brake wheel on each boxcar makes me wonder how efficient is was to have a brakeman come down from the roof to turn the bake wheel as opposed to operating the wheel on a vertical staff.

 

http://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A20110001-hpicnpl-0067/from_search/b43a493d3f3db9cd36a64f56ef51cff7-160

 

http://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A20110001-hpicnpl-0071/from_search/b43a493d3f3db9cd36a64f56ef51cff7-219

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Cocoa Beach Question

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Kevin Sprayberry asks:





"Can anyone tell me if Bobs photos will be in Cocoa Beach?"



Yes, he will be.here.



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Placement - Old Brake Wheels

thecitrusbelt@...
 

I noticed these photos on the Historic Pittsburgh website. The placement of the brake wheel on each boxcar makes me wonder how efficient is was to have a brakeman come down from the roof to turn the bake wheel as opposed to operating the wheel on a vertical staff.

 

http://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A20110001-hpicnpl-0067/from_search/b43a493d3f3db9cd36a64f56ef51cff7-160

 

http://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A20110001-hpicnpl-0071/from_search/b43a493d3f3db9cd36a64f56ef51cff7-219

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Cocoa Beach Question

ROGER HINMAN
 

I saw him last Saturday and he said he’d be there

Roger Hinman

On Dec 8, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Kevin Sprayberry csxt5555@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Can anyone tell me if Bobs photos will be in Cocoa Beach?

Thanks
Kevin




Galvanized roof paint fail

Pierre Oliver
 

Can anyone point me to some reasonable online images, preferably colour, of boxcar roofs that have had paint failures due to the difficulty of paint adhering to galvanized steel?

Thanks


--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: Cocoa Beach Question

csxt5555
 

Thanks.  I hope to make it down.


On Dec 8, 2016, at 3:42 PM, 'Aley, Jeff A' Jeff.A.Aley@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Our website at http://www.prototyperails.com shows that Bob’s Photos will be present.

 

And by the way, the Clinic Descriptions are available on the website.  I have a few updates to make, but the list is mostly complete.  A direct link is

http://prototyperails.com/Clinician_List_2017.pdf .

 

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff Aley

Clinic Chairman, PR’17

 

 

 

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Subject: [STMFC] Cocoa Beach Question

 

 

Can anyone tell me if Bobs photos will be in Cocoa Beach?

Thanks
Kevin


Re: New Article About Boxcar Roofs. . .

Tim O'Connor
 

Good catch, Dave.


In my 1961 CBC, in the same section, it says the same thing. And it also says


  "Running boards shall be made of wood and securely fastened to the car."


In parentheses is mentioned that "Metal running boards permitted"...


I guess the "cut and paste" phenomenon didn't just begin with computers and word processors.


Tim :-)




The only examples I have found of these terms is in ADVERTISING in the CBC. There are no glossary entries for either longitudinal or latitudinal.

Only partly true.  In my 1931 CBC, these terms are not in the glossary.  But on page 1106, in the section on A.R.A Standards for Safety Appliances, there they are, plain as day.  A few inches above "Sill Steps".

(Which is not to say that I particularly like them).

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA

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