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Re: Cocoa Beach Photos

Brent Greer
 

Here are a few overview shots I took.   There are much better ones in the March issue or RMC.

Unfortunately, this limits you to just the stuff I like best...

Brent



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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 3:31 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cocoa Beach Photos
 

yadda yadda yadda... so where are the photos?? :-P

Lighting is often terrible at RPM meets. One favorite was a Naperville RPM
display room with large south facing windows, lots of natural light

Tim O'Connor



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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*






Re: Cocoa Beach Photos

Tim O'Connor
 

yadda yadda yadda... so where are the photos?? :-P

Lighting is often terrible at RPM meets. One favorite was a Naperville RPM
display room with large south facing windows, lots of natural light

Tim O'Connor



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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Cocoa Beach Photos

Tony Thompson
 

No. Whoever wrote that comment was either being sarcastic or misinformed. Hard to tell on email sometimes.
I assumed it was a joke. But sarcasm is certainly possible. Tony Thompson


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Re: Cocoa Beach Photos

Brent Greer
 

For what it's worth, let me put this one to rest right now.  As one of the organization team for the Prototype Rails events, there is certainly no ban on photography in the model display rooms.  There may occasionally be limitations on photography in the clinic presentations, due to copyright/ownership restrictions on the photos that may be shown during the clinics.  But items displayed in the model display room are always fair game.

Brent


Dr. J. Brent Greer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361@...>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 12:36 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cocoa Beach Photos
 
No. Whoever wrote that comment was either being sarcastic or misinformed. Hard to tell on email sometimes.  

Brian J. Carlson 

On Feb 25, 2022, at 11:59 AM, David Wiggs <bigwiggs@...> wrote:


Is there now a rule about allowing cameras inside the function?  Several years ago I took pictures inside; at least I think I did.

Davo in Orlando

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Cheektowaga NY


Re: Superior 7' door

mopacfirst
 

OK, never mind, I withdraw my question.  I'm probably working on too many cars at once.  I believe I was looking at a different car when I realized the doors weren't the right ones.

Most embarrasing part is that I built a Branchline X43B a few years ago, so a typical kit must have had the right doors or I wouldn't have finished it.

Ron Merrick


Re: Cocoa Beach Photos

Brian Carlson
 

No. Whoever wrote that comment was either being sarcastic or misinformed. Hard to tell on email sometimes.  

Brian J. Carlson 

On Feb 25, 2022, at 11:59 AM, David Wiggs <bigwiggs@...> wrote:


Is there now a rule about allowing cameras inside the function?  Several years ago I took pictures inside; at least I think I did.

Davo in Orlando

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Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: Cocoa Beach Photos

Dave Owens
 

There is no such rule. I attended two meets and took many photos, as did people around me. 

Dave Owens

On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:59 AM David Wiggs <bigwiggs@...> wrote:
Is there now a rule about allowing cameras inside the function?  Several years ago I took pictures inside; at least I think I did.

Davo in Orlando


Re: U S Government Pilot Model Boxcar

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Hi List Members,
 
I recall being at the main train station in Montevideo, Uruguay, South America and seeing such a car in the wreck train there. So clearly they got around!
 
Claus Schlund
 

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Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] U S Government Pilot Model Boxcar

There were indeed some which were used at CONUS installations.  I recall some at Fort Jackson, SC in the 1970s  and there were many at Fort Bliss, TX into the late 1980s.

On Thursday, February 24, 2022, Dennis Storzek <dennis@...> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:53 AM, Wallace Steinbrecher wrote:
This is speculation, but it does look like one of the series of cars that were built to European loading gauges by the Army Transportation Corps for OCONUS use.  Many were equipped with multi-gauge trucks (much like the MRS-1 locomotive).  
More to the point, they were not legal for interchange and therefore never ventured out on the North American rail system, although I vaugely recall someone reporting that a few were used on base trackage somewhere.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Cocoa Beach Photos

David Wiggs
 

Is there now a rule about allowing cameras inside the function?  Several years ago I took pictures inside; at least I think I did.

Davo in Orlando


Re: U S Government Pilot Model Boxcar

Wallace Steinbrecher
 

There were indeed some which were used at CONUS installations.  I recall some at Fort Jackson, SC in the 1970s  and there were many at Fort Bliss, TX into the late 1980s.


On Thursday, February 24, 2022, Dennis Storzek <dennis@...> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:53 AM, Wallace Steinbrecher wrote:
This is speculation, but it does look like one of the series of cars that were built to European loading gauges by the Army Transportation Corps for OCONUS use.  Many were equipped with multi-gauge trucks (much like the MRS-1 locomotive).  
More to the point, they were not legal for interchange and therefore never ventured out on the North American rail system, although I vaugely recall someone reporting that a few were used on base trackage somewhere.

Dennis Storzek


Re: U S Government Pilot Model Boxcar

Philip Dove
 

Does anyone know where l can find a drawing or dimensions of these cars? Did any ever get to Europe?
I know some North American styled freight cars got to the UK in World war 2, but as far as l know none are preserved, unlike the 2 classes of steam locos of the USATC. Iirc some of the Tank cars had long lives as stationary storage for food oils with Unilever at Port Sunlight. 

On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, 13:21 Dennis Storzek, <dennis@...> wrote:
The photo that started this thread was of the pre-production sample. The actual production had more bracing, As I recall these were stored as a "kit", with the sides, ends , and roof piled on the floor to take less space on the ship to Europe. I vaguely remember seeing Gov't surplus cars in this condition at the Cass Scenic Railroad back in the sixties. For a view of the assembled cars, see: https://hawkinsrails.net/preservation/bgrm/bgrm.html and scroll down.

Dennis Storzek


Re: U S Government Pilot Model Boxcar

Eric Hansmann
 

I also recall seeing one of these cars at the Cass Scenic operation. I think it was at the coal dock near the loco facilities. They also had an Army 2-8-0 on the river line that connected with Durbin. After the flood of 85 washed out part of that connection, they used those rails as storage.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On 02/25/2022 6:21 AM Dennis Storzek <dennis@...> wrote:


The photo that started this thread was of the pre-production sample. The actual production had more bracing, As I recall these were stored as a "kit", with the sides, ends , and roof piled on the floor to take less space on the ship to Europe. I vaguely remember seeing Gov't surplus cars in this condition at the Cass Scenic Railroad back in the sixties. For a view of the assembled cars, see: https://hawkinsrails.net/preservation/bgrm/bgrm.html and scroll down.

Dennis Storzek



Re: U S Government Pilot Model Boxcar

Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
 

The photo that started this thread was of the pre-production sample. The actual production had more bracing, As I recall these were stored as a "kit", with the sides, ends , and roof piled on the floor to take less space on the ship to Europe. I vaguely remember seeing Gov't surplus cars in this condition at the Cass Scenic Railroad back in the sixties. For a view of the assembled cars, see: https://hawkinsrails.net/preservation/bgrm/bgrm.html and scroll down.

Dennis Storzek


Re: LS&BC covered hoppers

Steve and Barb Hile
 

It appears that there were 12 cars in this series built in 1952.

 

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Mumper
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:33 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] LS&BC covered hoppers

 

Group,

I've done the artwork and am planning on having decals printed for the LS&BC 1958 cuft covered hoppers in the as-built paint scheme.  Is anyone interested in these?  I had not planned on doing multiple road numbers as the primary picture this was based on is car 104 and I have only built one model.  They are covered in RPCyc 27.  These would be a one time only run.  These decals have been printed before, but when I found and bought a set (offered through a hobby store no longer open), they were more S scale and entirely unsuited to my HO model.

Eric Mumper


Re: Superior 7' door

Mike Clements
 

Isn't the one that came with the Branchline 40' box with a 7' door correct?



Mike Clements
Wakefield, MA
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Re: SEEKING PHOTOS

Kenneth Montero
 

Bill,

Thank you. I found one (new) for sale.

Ken Montero

On 02/24/2022 7:08 PM WILLIAM PARDIE <pardiew001@...> wrote:


That's the one Ken.  Right now it is the only one hiding in my library.

Thanks:

Bill Pardie



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From: Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...>
Date: 2/24/22 12:21 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SEEKING PHOTOS

Bill,

See Earl Tuson's post.

Would this information be in Train Shed Cyclopedia #3 box,  stock & refrigerator cars 1931?

Ken Montero
On 02/22/2022 9:42 PM WILLIAM PARDIE <pardiew001@...> wrote:


For the real old timers who never threw anything away drawings of this car and a photo were featured in one of the early TRAIN. SHED CYCLOPEDIA series..  I feel fortunate that I have about eight issues of this and regularly refer to them.

Bill Pardie



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-------- Original message --------
From: Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...>
Date: 2/22/22 4:31 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SEEKING PHOTOS

Some of the photos of the Rock Island paint scheme with a drawing of the car also appear in a Mainline Modeler article about this refrigerator car. (Mainline Modeler, April 1999, starting at page 43)

That article, and a discussion of the Marketing East/Taurus Products/Trout Creek Engineering kit and defects in the MM drawing are discussed in my prior email in this group's records:
I have the instructions for that kit, if you need them.

The instructions say that the history in the instructions came from George Berisso and Prototype Modeler (without specifying any particular issue of that magazine), It said thast the cars were Rock Island nos. 67750 through 67799 were built by General American Car Company in 1924 with a 40 ton capacity, with a AAR classification of RS.

Ken Montero
On 02/22/2022 1:47 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


On 2/22/2022 1:39 PM, Steve and Barb Hile wrote:
Bill, with a number like that, it would more likely be a hopper car.  Such
as they were, the RI reefers were numbered in 6xxxx series.

Let me know if I can help.

Regards,
Steve Hile

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf
Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 12:01 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] SEEKING PHOTOS

 I am looking for photos of a Rock Island refer in the 87900 series. Would
greatly appreciate any help.

Bill Pardie

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: SEEKING PHOTOS

Kenneth Montero
 

Earl,

Thank you for the additional detail information. I am sure that this will help a host of modelers, including me as I try to build a model of this car.

Ken Montero




Ken Montero

On 02/23/2022 10:19 PM Earl Tuson <etuson@...> wrote:


Interestingly enough, the Marketing East/Taurus Products/Trout Creek Engineering kit for the Rock Island reefer was also sold as a PFE R-30-13 - with notes from Nelson McCormick and Prototype Modeler.
I know, I have one of the PFE versions and have built it. It is
certainly close the the PFE design if not exact. Since GATC was
building PFE cars in the 1920s, it's very possible that the Rock Island
cars were copies. PFE routinely allowed use of their drawings that way.
The '31 CBC included drawing of both. They are virtually the same, with
only a few very minor differences that would be irrelevant to most
modelers. For example, the cast draft arms for one are for a horizontal
coupler yoke (two draft keys,) while the other is suitable for a
vertical yoke (one key.) The single I beam appears to have a slightly
longer splice plate where it is cut to taper to the bolster on one of
the cars in comparison to the other. But, the carbody and underframe is
the same design.

Earl Tuson



Superior 7' door

mopacfirst
 

Any suggestions for an HO Superior 7' 7-panel down with wider third panel (X43B)?

Yes, there's a photo on rr-fallenflags with one that has a 5-panel replacement door, but it also has the sidesill reinforcement.

Ron Merrick


Re: U S Government Pilot Model Boxcar

Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
 

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 03:33 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:
There is a similar car which dweeled in the Portola WP museum for several years until a tiff with another group deemed the WP group to be unappreciative of the tank steam loco. Both the loco and this built-for-Europe box car went to the V&T RR in Nevada about 20 years ago.
When these things were decommissioned they were disposed of as gov't surplus, to become sheds, I guess. There were a bunch at Cass years ago. There is some tourist railroad that has two, I think, complete , on wheels.

Dennis Storzek

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