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Oddballs....http://mopac1.tripod.com/oddballs3.htm


Kent Hurley in KC

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Re: Red caboose -12 PFE models

Fred Jansz
 

248 R-30-12/13's according to the big PFE bible. And according to my dbase I'd need one in my model fleet.
Despite the fact that WP cars were the needles in the haystack and I would be OK with one, I have 4 of 'em because I have a soft spot for WP. My PFE collection now comprises of 42 cars, still 15 rare ones to go...
cheers
Fred


Re: e bay auctions

Chuck Soule
 

Andy wrote:  Even if the prototype is wood, I'd rather make it out of
plastic.


I came to the conclusion years ago that, at least for HO scale (and smaller),  even a weathered wood car or structure modeled out of wood does not look as nice as if done out of plastic.  This is because the grain in the natural wood is too coarse for the scale. 

Wood as the construction material would be OK for the various G scales, but even for O or S scale, natural grain of the stripwood is coarse.

Chuck Soule


Ambroid cement on e bay

ed_mines
 

I see a dozen 1.8 oz tubes of Ambroid cement  are currently being  auctioned on you tube. current bid is $45.


I must not be the only one who finds todays model cements to be less than perfect.


Ed Mines


Re: e bay auctions

ed_mines
 

Whoa!


I like these wood kits as much as anybody.


But some have seen their day. There are many models plastic models of those ACF hoppers.


I could never get the screen to lie down flat.


Almost 40 years ago I built that model (Northeastern kit). The roof walk supports were another stumbling block, getting them all in the same plane.


I also built an Ambroid (white box?) PS (?) covered hopper (GN lettering) with cast roof walks and a pair of heavy cast discharge hoppers. It is one of my favorite wood cars. The ends, with Weaver era ladder stock, look crisper than on similar plastic models.


Ed Mines



Re: Red caboose -12 PFE models

Tony Thompson
 

The PFE orange did fade toward yellow. There were certainly no 1920s yellow cars still around, as PFE shop records show.


On Jun 5, 2016, at 10:54 AM, ed_mines@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Thanks for your answer Tony.


Red Caboose did nice kits with beautiful screening. I hope the original owner was able to make money.


On the subject of PFE reefers, the other day I saw a color Jack Delano WWII era photo of a rail yard on Shorpy, with 2 reefers, both yellow, and one was clearly PFE. 


Ed Mines



Re: Red caboose -12 PFE models

ed_mines
 

Thanks for your answer Tony.


Red Caboose did nice kits with beautiful screening. I hope the original owner was able to make money.


On the subject of PFE reefers, the other day I saw a color Jack Delano WWII era photo of a rail yard on Shorpy, with 2 reefers, both yellow, and one was clearly PFE. 


Ed Mines



Re: Friction Bearings

Jeffrey White
 

I am looking at IC Employee Timetable for the Chicago Champaign Districts (Illinois Division) Number 59 Effective Tuesday, December 14, 1948.  In the Special Instructions on page 21 it says this:

920. Trains shown below when handling one or more cars with friction bearing journals, will stop and make inspection as follows:

Trains Nos. 53-52-5-6 at Kankakee, Champaign and Mattoon.

Trains Nos. 19-20-21-22 at Kankakee and Gibson City.

Trains Nos. 17 and 18 at Gibson City when handled by Diesel Engines.

So at least the IC used the term "friction bearings" in their official publications.

Jeff White

Alma, IL


On 6/5/2016 3:43 AM, therrboomer@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

 I spent 40+ years on four different railroads and it was Roller Bearing or Friction Bearing on each of them.


Dick Haave



Re: e bay auctions

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Just returned from the Enfield NERPM meet (formerly the eastern Collinsville meet) and there was a display of five (maybe six) built Ambroid or similar kits that were very appealing. Nope, not resin quality, but still very handsome models.



Schuyler



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Subject: [STMFC] Re: e bay auctions





Some classic "junk" kits like the Ambroid ACF covered hopper kits are being offered, sometimes at premium prices. Screen roofwalks, ugh! Sealing the wood is no picnic these days either<


H-mmm. LIke any kit, If one does not know how to build it, or dislikes doing so, the end result will indeed be “junk”. For others that enjoy the challenge or accomplishment that fine kit building promises, building and finishing the Ambroid kits can be at the top of the list: It surely is on mine.



Denny





Denny S. Anspach MD

Okoboji, IA







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Re: Tichy Decals

Matthew Dowd
 

I'm glad to hear that the artwork has been passed on and not lost forever. Jerry had some very unique decals that added greatly to the Southern Pacific modeler's "tool bag." 

I'm sure that Tichy will also be a more reliable source for these decals than Mr Glow was. I ordered about $50 worth of decals from him a couple years ago, for which he cashed my check almost immediately. Needless to say, two years and multiple emails later (of which I've never received any responses) I still haven't seen my decals, or a refund.

I apologize for the rant, but I know for a fact that I was not the only one affected by this particular situation. I wish all the best of luck to the new owners of the artwork, and I'm sure I'll be ordering some of these decals in the near future. 

-Matthew Dowd


Re: Red caboose -12 PFE models

Tony Thompson
 

Fred Jansz wrote:

 

Xcuse me for my igorance. What I read in your answer is that the ones lettered for R-30-12-9 are also the wrong ones? I have ten R-30-9 kits that seem to have the right height (all double herald, LA 6-48). However 2 other kits I have are lettered as R-30-12-9, have lower bodies, ROS 7-39. These two need to be repainted & lettered anyway because they would've been in 1950 in real life I guess. Thanks for your explanation.


         The lettering is not a good guide, because Red Caboose did a bunch of paint schemes; follow the height as you have done. And BTW, by 1950 there were precious few R-30-12 or -13 remaining. Not because they had been scrapped, but because almost all had been rebuilt into something else. Best use of that body might be the WP cars, though they too were quite reduced in number.

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PFE decals Re: Tichy Decals

Paul Krueger
 

They just announced a bunch of PFE decals in multiple scales this week.


Paul

Paul Krueger
Seattle, WA


Re: Tichy Decals

William Dale
 

I too have heard that Tichy had acquired Jerry Glow's decal artwork months ago, from a reliable source in the hobby.  Also, I was told that the decals that Tichy is printing are done on some sort of machine that is used in pharmaceutical which leaves a sort of raised surface on the the decal sheet.  I have a set I have yet to apply on a model, time will tell I guess.

Bill Dale 


Re: Tichy Decals

 

Has anyone heard anymore of Don Tichy buying Jerry Glow's decal artwork?

Rich Christie


On Saturday, June 4, 2016 11:01 AM, "fgexbill@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
A few months ago I was told by someone I trust that Tichy had acquired the technology necessary to print decals. Tichy through the years has offered a few decals but the quality was uneven IMO. I think but cannot say for certain that they were done for them by F&C.

I am on their email list and receive periodic product updates and today received the second one about PFE and now WP reefer decals. Here is the link for HO: Tichy Train Group > What's New
Someone may want to let Don diplomatically know that he is confused about the paint schemes I think.

My source was interested because Tichy will also do custom runs from artwork furnished to them.

Bill Welch



Re: e bay auctions

Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...>
 

>Some classic "junk" kits like the Ambroid ACF covered hopper kits are being offered, sometimes at premium prices. Screen roofwalks, ugh! Sealing the wood is no picnic these days either<

H-mmm.  LIke any kit, If one does not know how to build it, or dislikes doing so, the end result will indeed be  “junk”.  For others that enjoy the challenge or accomplishment that fine kit building promises, building and finishing the Ambroid kits can be at the top of the list:  It surely is on mine. 

Denny

 
Denny S. Anspach MD
Okoboji, IA


Re: Friction Bearings

riverman_vt@...
 




---In STMFC@..., <tony@...> wrote :

Tony Thompson wrote:

        Actually, be careful with this statement. The measured frictional resistance is vanishingly small between solid and roller bearings at all speeds above about 5 miles per hour. And even starting friction, certainly distinctly higher for solid bearings, is not a huge difference for days above about 50 degrees F (if memory serves on the temperature number). Of course on really cold days the difference could get huge.
         The enormous advantage of roller bearings is not only the virtual absence of hot boxes, but the elimination of all the inspection and maintenance of solid bearings. In economic terms, this is the ball game.


     
     Unfortunately the reduction in car inspection with the use of roller bearings also has created some problems.
As we all know, bearings, too, can and do fail, and the results are just as serious as when friction bearings fail.
And the life of bearings seems very difficult to predict. For example, my wife and I drive Volvos. I have two 1998
XC-70's and she a 2006.  One of my XC-70's clocked 300,000 earlier this year and the left front wheel bearing
began to show signs of failing. My son and I changed all of them and found another that was also beginning to 
go.  With only 115,000 in hers my wife experienced the exact same problem with her left from wheel bearing
last month. Why mine lasted for 300,000 and hers barely over a third of that someone will have to explain to me.
But the point is the same, bearings ultimately fail whether they are solid or roller and the latter sometimes are
not checked enough, seeming from the false feeling that "roller bearings last forever". We wish!

Cordially, Don Valentine



Re: nice roof weathering

Scott H. Haycock
 

 


>Derailment photos are a great source of roof and underbody details. And
>sometimes interiors.

>Andy

Let me try this again- Yahoo is acting up.

Andy,

This might be your shortest post ever  :-)


Scott Haycock



Re: Friction Bearings

richard haave
 

 I spent 40+ years on four different railroads and it was Roller Bearing or Friction Bearing on each of them.


Dick Haave


Re: nice roof weathering

Scott H. Haycock
 





>Derailment photos are a great source of roof and underbody details. And
>sometimes interiors.

>Andy



Re: Red caboose -12 PFE models

Fred Jansz
 

Xcuse me for my igorance. What I read in your answer is that the ones lettered for R-30-12-9 are also the wrong ones? I have ten R-30-9 kits that seem to have the right height (all double herald, LA 6-48). However 2 other kits I have are lettered as R-30-12-9, have lower bodies, ROS 7-39. These two need to be repainted & lettered anyway because they would've been in 1950 in real life I guess. Thanks for your explanation.
Fred Jansz