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Re: Boxcar Petroleum Carrier

rwitt_2000
 

I'll have to check my notes, but I recall this was one-of-a-kind for the B&O. The converted box car came from their Class M-27 the taller version of the ARA all-steel box car.

The class for the converted car was M-27G with only a single car converted in 1943.  A note in the clearance diagram states the tanks were removed 11-1-45 and it was reconverted to class M-27A, #291301.

There was a second single car converted designated class M-27H #390050 also in 1943 and its tanks were removed in 3-6-45 and reconverted to M-27, #290987.

Bob Witt


Re: cupola railings

James E Kubanick
 

Monroe Models supplies a similar acrylic jig in their DM&IR caboose kit.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV


On Friday, January 8, 2016 1:44 AM, "'Douglas Harding' doug.harding@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
To follow up: AMB created a wonderful little laser cut acrylic jig for bending all the railings, grabs, etc for their M&StL caboose kit. It does the curved grabs for the sides, the ones for the top of cupola, the end railings with the correct bends and curves, the correct length grabs, etc. I don’t believe they offered it in any other kit, at least none of the others I have built. I have several of the jibs and have modified one by drilling additional holes to bend different length grabs for other cabooses.
 
When I get home and can dig through the tool box, I will try to post a photo of the jib so you can get a better idea of what I looks like and how it works.
 
Doug Harding
 



Re: Boxcar Petroleum Carrier

Guy Wilber
 

Bob wrote:

"How prevalent were such cars and how well did the workout?"

I posted information on this effort quite some time ago; Search Conversations under, "Turning Boxcars Into Tank Cars."

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada


Boxcar Petroleum Carrier

thecitrusbelt@...
 

This is a link to a 1940 photo from the Library of Congress:

 

http://www.loc.gov/item/oem2002007571/PP/

 

On the left side the image is available to review in several sizes under “Download options”.

 

Caption: “New type of boxcar petroleum carrier which the Office of Defense Transportation hopes may soon be helping to solve the oil shortage in the East. The car is a standard automobile-type steel box car fitted with four steel tanks enclosed in wooden boxes. It has a capacity of 12,200 gallons--considerably more than the average tank car serving the East.”

 

How prevalent were such cars and how well did the workout?

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Barriger Library AC&F Builder's Photos

water.kresse@...
 

Great stuff!  Lots of tank cars and caboose, passenger, baggage and mail car interiors.  Where else have you seen car lavatories?
 
Al Kresse


From: "markwmhemphill@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 9:43:44 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Barriger Library AC&F Builder's Photos

 

As Doug Harding and possibly others have pointed out, Barriger Library has been posting downloadable, high-resolution AC&F builder's photos.  There have been quite a few recently posted; there are 676 images in the album so far.  


Downloading these at high-resolution is slightly convoluted -- I left-click on the download symbol in the lower right corner, then right click on "Original" -- that enables me to write file names as I go, and put them into the directory I want rather than just in the default Windows Downloads folder.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/albums/72157649155982802


Mark Hemphill




Barriger Library AC&F Builder's Photos

Mark Hemphill
 

As Doug Harding and possibly others have pointed out, Barriger Library has been posting downloadable, high-resolution AC&F builder's photos.  There have been quite a few recently posted; there are 676 images in the album so far.  


Downloading these at high-resolution is slightly convoluted -- I left-click on the download symbol in the lower right corner, then right click on "Original" -- that enables me to write file names as I go, and put them into the directory I want rather than just in the default Windows Downloads folder.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/albums/72157649155982802


Mark Hemphill



The NYCSHS Announces a Brand New Book on NYCS Hudsons.

Noel Widdifield
 


The NYCSHS Announces a Brand New Book on NYCS Hudsons.

This hard cover book is the complete story of the NYC Hudson by subclass, written by NYCSHS Director and former President Tom Gerbracht, after several years of research into the most famous NYC steam locomotives. Tom gives the detailed history of the NYC Hudson from official railroad record cards and drawings. The book covers all of the locomotives in the Hudson class, including the Boston & Albany J-2s, the Dreyfuss and Empire State streamlined locos, and of the tenders used by Hudsons. Extensive detailed reference material is included. The book has over 250 pages and 200 photographs, many previously unpublished, with 32 of them in color. Excellent for modelers.

Features:

  • Summaries from official railroad records for 118 Hudson locomotives
  • Engines by subclass, including the B&A Hudsons
  • A section on Dreyfuss and Empire State Express streamlined engines
  • A section on Hudson tenders
  • Many Hudson “oddities”
  • Hudsons being tested, run, and in the shops
  • Hudsons’ final runs
  • Detailed drawings for the modeler, including Paint and Lettering Drawings
  • Even the “The Hudson that never was…”

Ordering Details:

  • MSRP $79.95 – NYCSHS members $63.96 plus $5.50 S&H for either. In Collinwood Shop the S&H is added in the basic prices for USA buyers. (Shipping higher to Canada, Mexico, & Overseas – Contact us for shipping cost) – Ohio residents add 8% tax.
  • Members’ price is 20% off MSRP and all proceeds go to the NYCSHS.
  • A very limited quantity of numbered and signed copies available at $250.
  • Expected First Qtr. 2016. Very limited run and no reprints.
  • Order the book in the NYCSHS Collinwood Shop at www.NYCSHS.net

Click Here to Order from Our Online Store!!!

                                                             http://Welcome to NYCSHS - The Collinwood Shop


To download an order form to pay by check or money order click here.


https://nycshs.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/tomsbookflyer-1.pdf



Re: cupola railings

North Model Railroad Supplies <nmrs@...>
 

Hi Mike,

If you read the reviews, that is NOT a tool you would wish for.

http://www.amazon.com/Artistic-Wire-Deluxe-Jig-Kit/dp/B0018GI46M/
The concept is fine, but based on the reviews, the tool is poorly made and fails to do the job for which it is intended.

Pity, because the idea is a good one.

Cheers

Dave North

 

 


Re: cupola railings

Douglas Harding
 

To follow up: AMB created a wonderful little laser cut acrylic jig for bending all the railings, grabs, etc for their M&StL caboose kit. It does the curved grabs for the sides, the ones for the top of cupola, the end railings with the correct bends and curves, the correct length grabs, etc. I don’t believe they offered it in any other kit, at least none of the others I have built. I have several of the jibs and have modified one by drilling additional holes to bend different length grabs for other cabooses.

 

When I get home and can dig through the tool box, I will try to post a photo of the jib so you can get a better idea of what I looks like and how it works.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


CA Santa Fe Mini Meet Feb. 6 with Redland Loop, Cajon during WWII and other presentations

Charles
 

The next California Mini Meet will be held on February 6. Due to changes that have been made at the San Bernardino Depot, we can no longer hold the Mini Meet there.
 
The new location will be:
Christ Lutheran Church of West Covina
311 South Citrus Street, West Covina
Exit San Bernardino Freeway (I-10) at Citrus, go south 1/8 mile
Map Link: http://tinyurl.com/ojmukxz
 
The day will begin with registration starting at 7:30 a.m. and the first presentation at 8:00 a.m. sharp.
 
As usual, we will have a great lineup of speakers, frequent breaks to visit vendors and view a large modular layout, and ample time for lunch. The program is expected to conclude at approximately 4:45 p.m.
 
Our speakers for the day will include:
    Warren Scholl - Training of Santa Fe Engineers
    Stuart Forsyth - Cajon At War: Operations Update
    Eric Smith - Keeping the Chief on Raton Pass
    Keith Jordan - Modeling the Redlands Loop
    Steve Crise - Cajon ln Photographs: 1960-1980
    Plus one additional speaker yet to be announced

Cost of admission is $30. We urge you to register in advance by mail as it makes our job much easier and avoids you having to stand in line on the morning of the event.
 
Do not hesitate to contact us if you have any questions.
EVENT ORGANIZERS:
GeneRutledge 559-732-2560 atsfgene@... [atsfgene AT aol DOT com]
Charlie Schultz 909-596-5870 Ctschult@... [Ctschult AT aol DOT com]
 
PLEASE PRINT
 
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ADDRESS ___________________________________________________
CITY STATE ZIP ______________________________________________
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If you are registering for more than yourself, list additional names here:
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Registration Fee - $30.00 per person Pay by check or money order only (No credit card capabilities)
Make checks payable to Charlie Schultz
Mail to: Charlie Schultz, 2218 Virginia Ave, La Verne, CA 91750-2257
Phone 909-596-5870


This is a mini-meet of the Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society. Lunch is on your own — several restaurants are nearby. There may be a few vendors but this is not intended to be a swap meet.


---

I'll be there helping out.

Charley Hepperle  aka chdiecast



Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge

prr282
 


Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge is returning to the Desmond Hotel in Malvern, PA  (about 20 miles west of Philadelphia and convenient to the PA Turnpike and US 202), the same great hotel as previous years.  This year's dates are March 18-20, 2016.  Over 50 different clinics will be presented, along with operating sessions, vendors room, models display room, and a home layout tour.  Please visit our web site for full information:     www.rpmvalleyforge.com 

There you will find a list of vendors, complete timetable, hotel information, and a registration form.

Paul Backenstose
Chairman


Southern SU Diagram

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

Does anyone here have, or know where I can find online, a general arrangement drawings for the Southern SU 36' wooden boxcar from the mid to late 1950s? In my 1958 ORER, I find the Southern still rostered 22 of these: 16 in series 153500-159889 and 6 in series 162000-169769. If possible I would like the find the numbers of cars still in service, and also match them to the proper end: T, Hutchins or "Murphy". Failing in that, could anyone please forward me the correct number of a Hutchins-end car still in revenue service circa 1957-1958? (I have a Westerfield Hutchins car on order.)

Thanks in advance.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


Re: New 3D printer

mwbauers
 

There are a number of nice compact models at under $350 today.

That 5-10 years might end up being 1-2 years.

Here’s one to look at..


and another…


Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi

On Jan 7, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Jon Miller  wrote:


On 1/7/2016 2:14 AM, Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] wrote:
a new printer

    There is also a crude one for $269.  In another 5/10 years every model railroader will have a 3D printer on his bench (grin)!


Re: New 3D printer

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 1/7/2016 2:14 AM, Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] wrote:
a new printer

    There is also a crude one for $269.  In another 5/10 years every model railroader will have a 3D printer on his bench (grin)!

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: New 3D printer

mwbauers
 

With low cost laser cutters around the $500 level and at $100 for some models, someone can take the same idea and make a blade-less version of this 3d printer that should much cost less than the $6,000 of this more mechanical cutting 3d paper printer.

The future is certainly going to be interesting.

Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi

On Jan 7, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Garth Groff wrote:

Friends,

Today the BBC has a feature on a new printer that uses layered paper to
make 3D models. At around $6,000 this is a bit steep, but the price is
bound to drop if the technology catches on. This might have great
possibilities for model railroads, especially buildings, as the photo
examples show.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35247318

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff


Re: cupola railings

mwbauers
 

I think you wish for a tool like this….

Or a DIY version with nails pounded into a board that has just the spacing over the outside of the nails you need for each grab you are bending . [use inner distance needed, minus the diameter of -one- of the nails to hammer the bending jig you need. Mark the board for that and hammer in the nail on the end of that measured line.]

There is the secret, the inside measurement of the bent grab you need, with the bending pins installed so that the outside of those pins is the distance you need for your bend.


Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi

On Jan 7, 2016, at 10:16 AM, ed_mines wrote:


Most caboose kits direct you to bend a piece of wire requiring you to get at least 2 measurements exactly if you want the cupola railings to look good.


Using a whole package of wire I couldn't get those railings to look decent.


I've gotten nice results using Yarmouth eye bolts and "L" shaped pieces of wire.


AMB laserkits provide a template for the mounting holes which is an improvement. .

 


Re: cupola railings

Douglas Harding
 

Ed AMB provided a nice bending jig in their MSTL caboose kit, which I have modified to bend parts for other cabooses. Get or make a jig for consistent parts.

Doug Harding from my phone


From: ed_mines@... [STMFC]
Sent: ‎1/‎7/‎2016 8:16 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] cupola railings

 

Most caboose kits direct you to bend a piece of wire requiring you to get at least 2 measurements exactly if you want the cupola railings to look good.


Using a whole package of wire I couldn't get those railings to look decent.


I've gotten nice results using Yarmouth eye bolts and "L" shaped pieces of wire.


AMB laserkits provide a template for the mounting holes which is an improvement.


Ed Mines


[The entire original message is not included.]


cupola railings

ed_mines
 

Most caboose kits direct you to bend a piece of wire requiring you to get at least 2 measurements exactly if you want the cupola railings to look good.


Using a whole package of wire I couldn't get those railings to look decent.


I've gotten nice results using Yarmouth eye bolts and "L" shaped pieces of wire.


AMB laserkits provide a template for the mounting holes which is an improvement.


Ed Mines


B&LE kit

 

B&LE Speedwitch kit has been sold.  Thank you!  Hugh T. Guillaume


New 3D printer

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

Today the BBC has a feature on a new printer that uses layered paper to make 3D models. At around $6,000 this is a bit steep, but the price is bound to drop if the technology catches on. This might have great possibilities for model railroads, especially buildings, as the photo examples show.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35247318

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

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