Re: gondola loads --top view
---In STMFC@..., <GEORGESIMMONS@...> wrote : Looks like loads of lumber to me. George W.Simmons Dry Prong, La. After copying & enlarging the image it looks to me like a load of large & long dimensional lumber i.e. not crates. Andy Jackson Santa Fe Springs CA
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Re: L&N Locos
william darnaby
I have a color photo of one in one of my Morning Sun books. Contact me off list so we don’t end up in jail.
wdarnaby@... <mailto:wdarnaby@...> Bill Darnaby From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:24 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] L&N Locos HHHEEELLLPPP!!! I took in some L&N power to work on for a customer -- one railroad I know absolutely nothing about. First, he gave me an FA2/FB2 to work on because the sound in the FB2 wasn't working. Turned out to be a loose speaker wire on the decoder board. So I asked him if he wanted them numbered (they are unnumbered Bachmann units). I ordered a set of Microscale 87-639 decals to get the "cream" numbers, but realized I could not find a photo of an early-1950's L&N FB2 for love money or marbles!!! I was only able to find two of the FA2 in that paint scheme. I think the Bachmann FB2 may be lettered wrong (it's not the same as the P2K FB2), but don't know if either is right since I can find nada photo of a real one. Any help? Also, does anyone know if the FA2/FB2 had diaphragms on them as delivered? Last issue. He gave me a Genesis Light Pacific in L&N and wanted to know what sound decoder he should get. I recommended a Soundtraxx, but think he is probably going to buy an MRC heavy steam sound decoder. The big problem is that when I tested the loco out, it had a hitch in the valve gear. When I finally figured that out (some heavy-handed $#@^&$$ squashed one of the rods), I noticed that there was also a problem with the gear on the center drivers slipping, or failing to engage the gears on the motor assembly. Very un-Genesis like, the gears are not very well made. I found two problems, first the gear appears to be slipping on the axle. Worst yet, it is slipping when rotating, and second, there is a lot of side to side play on the wheels (even though the center axle has blind drivers) so it is completely slipping off the drive gear laterally. I think a drop of thin superglue will solve problem 1 (worked for an Overland brass diesel of mine) and am thinking of putting a piece of plastic tube around the axle to limit its side to side play. I will split the tube and fit it around the axle then glue it back together (do NOT want to mess with the valve gear, pulling the wheels or quartering the drivers -- I don't have the tools do do either of the latter two). What sayest the experts here??? -- John
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L&N Locos
HHHEEELLLPPP!!! I took in some L&N power to work on for a customer -- one railroad I know absolutely nothing about. First, he gave me an FA2/FB2 to work on because the sound in the FB2 wasn't working. Turned out to be a loose speaker wire on the decoder board. So I asked him if he wanted them numbered (they are unnumbered Bachmann units). I ordered a set of Microscale 87-639 decals to get the "cream" numbers, but realized I could not find a photo of an early-1950's L&N FB2 for love money or marbles!!! I was only able to find two of the FA2 in that paint scheme. I think the Bachmann FB2 may be lettered wrong (it's not the same as the P2K FB2), but don't know if either is right since I can find nada photo of a real one. Any help? Also, does anyone know if the FA2/FB2 had diaphragms on them as delivered? Last issue. He gave me a Genesis Light Pacific in L&N and wanted to know what sound decoder he should get. I recommended a Soundtraxx, but think he is probably going to buy an MRC heavy steam sound decoder. The big problem is that when I tested the loco out, it had a hitch in the valve gear. When I finally figured that out (some heavy-handed $#@^&$$ squashed one of the rods), I noticed that there was also a problem with the gear on the center drivers slipping, or failing to engage the gears on the motor assembly. Very un-Genesis like, the gears are not very well made. I found two problems, first the gear appears to be slipping on the axle. Worst yet, it is slipping when rotating, and second, there is a lot of side to side play on the wheels (even though the center axle has blind drivers) so it is completely slipping off the drive gear laterally. I think a drop of thin superglue will solve problem 1 (worked for an Overland brass diesel of mine) and am thinking of putting a piece of plastic tube around the axle to limit its side to side play. I will split the tube and fit it around the axle then glue it back together (do NOT want to mess with the valve gear, pulling the wheels or quartering the drivers -- I don't have the tools do do either of the latter two). What sayest the experts here??? -- John
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Re: New Haven coal gondola
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Dave, Eric, and List Members,
Nicely done work! I have often considered modeling
this NH GA-2 class of gons in N scale - we have an ancient Arnold gondola that
would serve as a reasonable starting point - see link below:
Claus Schlund
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Re: When we used to make things
paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
SORRY DON'T KNOW HOW THAT GOT HERE. Paul Doggett UK Sent from Samsung mobile "'paul.doggett2472' paul.doggett2472@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote: Sent from Samsung mobile
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Subject: When we used to make things From: Barry Bennett <barrybennetttoo@...> To: Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...> CC:
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Re: PFE 21919 R30-13
Bill Welch
I am 70 years old. Hard to remember everything or was I making sure people were paying attention?
Bill Welch
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Re: GDB
Clark Propst
Looking at the cars I posted seems they stop then move down the line. Grain
doors is a good explanation for DGB, especially being grain doors are not
mentioned otherwise.
Clark
Propst Mason City Iowa
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Re: gondola loads --top view
George Simmons
Looks like loads of lumber to me.
George W.Simmons Dry Prong, La.
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When we used to make things
paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
Sent from Samsung mobile
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Subject: When we used to make things From: Barry Bennett <barrybennetttoo@...> To: Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...> CC:
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Pittsburgh Brown
Brad Andonian
Fellas, You might consider Tru Color's Erie freight car brown. It has a very nice brownish hue. Brad Andonian On Saturday, March 12, 2016 6:08 AM, "'Dave Lawler' davelawler@... [STMFC]" wrote: Elden and Eric, thank you for the reply regarding the Wheeling’s car
colors.
The car series referenced in the post were “24000-24199 built early in 1941
by ACF (lot no.2137)”
I still have about 2/3 bottle of Floquil Roof Brown however the light
yellow will be a bit of a challenge.
I’ll try to approximate it with something by Tru-Color. Maybe their Rich
Oxide Brown but it may be too red.
I’ll try the Roof Brown on a test card and see what I can conjure up.
Thanks again,
Dave Lawler
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Re: PFE 21919 R30-13
Tony Thompson
Um, if you look, it is lettered "R-30-12" right on the car side.
The PFE lettering diagrams as late as 1950 continued to show side grab irons as black. I think that this car (reweigh date is 5-41, consistent with the paint scheme) has such grabs, but the illumination angle makes them look light. Cars of R-30-12 and -13 kept their grab iron ladders in many cases until rebuilt or scrapped in the late 1940s. When "reconditioned" in the late 1930s, some got ladders but only a minority, as far as I can judge from photos and shop records. If anyone is interested, I could look up and see what this car was rebuilt into, and when, or if it was merely scrapped. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: PFE 21919 R30-13
ed_mines
Thanks Bill, photos of these cars are always welcome. I think the car is an R-30-12; the number is an original -12 number and it has a typical Bettendorf body bolster. The car retains the original 6 grab irons on the right but has had a second grab iron added on the left. It looks like the grab irons may be the same color as the car side on this car, something I've noticed looking at other photos of these cars. Tony? I wonder how late were in service with the original 6 grabs on the right. Any idea Tony? Ed Mines
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Re: SP Resin kits...where are they?
Tony Thompson
Bill Welch wrote:
I entirely agree with Bill about both the Westerfield and Sunshine kits, and especially about the F&C kit for the A-50-6 car, one of the finest moldings Steve Funaro has ever done, in my opinion. And Bill is exactly right, it builds into a gorgeous model. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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PFE 21919 R30-13
Bill Welch
For anyone modeling around 1941 here are two photos of a PFE reefer I own for your use. Feel free to download. Be aware they are large files. Enjoy! Bill Welch
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Re: SP Resin kits...where are they?
Bill Welch
I just looked at the Westerfield website to refresh my memory and I don't see any shrinkage in their SP offerings. Speedwitch has a very nice SP/TN&O DD SS 40-ft car—mine would be finished if I could figure out how to do the brake wheel gear thingy. Missing in Action are the important cars done by Sunshine, the 8-panel Z-braced Howe trussed and the 6-panel Hat section braced Pratt trussed cars.
I would not be quick to dismiss the F&C 50ft SS kit, it builds into a gorgeous model. Bill Welch
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Pittsburgh Brown
Dave Lawler
Elden and Eric, thank you for the reply regarding the Wheeling’s car
colors.
The car series referenced in the post were “24000-24199 built early in 1941
by ACF (lot no.2137)”
I still have about 2/3 bottle of Floquil Roof Brown however the light
yellow will be a bit of a challenge.
I’ll try to approximate it with something by Tru-Color. Maybe their Rich
Oxide Brown but it may be too red.
I’ll try the Roof Brown on a test card and see what I can conjure up.
Thanks again,
Dave Lawler
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gondola loads --top view
gary laakso
The loads appear to be muliple large wooden containers with 8 metal (or
painted wood) stakes holding them in place on the side with the stakes fastened
to supports across the top of the loads:
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
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Re: paint failure
Eric Hansmann
The B&O M-26 might be in original paint and lettering. Note there is only one grab on the left side and there is no B&O emblem. And to the right, just above the gondola, is a Wheeling & Lake Erie steel sheathed box car in dark brown paint. I was thinking about this image earlier with the Pittsburgh Brown conversation. Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
On March 11, 2016 at 7:01 PM "'gary laakso' vasa0vasa@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
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SP Resin kits...where are they?
amwing1588@...
Hey all,
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paint failure
gary laakso
This B&O M-26 has really had a paint failure with large areas of steel
showing:
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
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