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Re: Fort Dodge, Des Moines & Southern Ventilated Refrigerator 942

vapeurchapelon
 

Lester,
 
due to lack of knowledge of the prototype I can't comment in regard of accuracy, but it's definitely a beautiful model! Very well done!
 
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1954
 
Gesendet: Samstag, 01. Mai 2021 um 14:08 Uhr
Von: "Lester Breuer" <rforailroad@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: [RealSTMFC] Fort Dodge, Des Moines & Southern Ventilated Refrigerator 942

 

I have built and reworked an Accurail - 5th Avenue Car Shops kit into a Fort Dodge, Des Moines & Southern ventilated Refrigerator car.  Rework included new end sill install, milling running board and grab iron fasteners/rivets to be applied via new method to new installed wire grab irons after molded ladders and grab irons and fasteners carved off.  If you are interested photos and write up are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.  If would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

Lester Breuer

 


Fort Dodge, Des Moines & Southern Ventilated Refrigerator 942

Lester Breuer
 

 

I have built and reworked an Accurail - 5th Avenue Car Shops kit into a Fort Dodge, Des Moines & Southern ventilated Refrigerator car.  Rework included new end sill install, milling running board and grab iron fasteners/rivets to be applied via new method to new installed wire grab irons after molded ladders and grab irons and fasteners carved off.  If you are interested photos and write up are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.  If would like to take a look please do at the following link:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

Lester Breuer

 


Re: SP Freight Car Color.

Paul Doggett
 

Bruce 

I use Trucolor SP freight car red. I think your mix seems quite close. Tony and Tim are probably the best to get the best information off.

Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 1 May 2021, at 07:42, Bruce Griffin <bdg1210@...> wrote:

Tony, Paul and other SP Modelers,

Modeling the B&O on the east coast means a limited number of SP cars.  Two are getting ready to see service on my layout and are literally primed. I am seeking your input on a decent color match. Not exact, just decent. Attached are photos of recent in-progress builds sprayed with Vallejo Brunt Red 70.814 much thinned for airbrushing. What are your thoughts on adjusting the color? I added a Kadee UP boxcar and a black hopper for color reference.  Thank you for your input. 

 

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 

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SP Freight Car Color.

Bruce Griffin
 

Tony, Paul and other SP Modelers,

Modeling the B&O on the east coast means a limited number of SP cars.  Two are getting ready to see service on my layout and are literally primed. I am seeking your input on a decent color match. Not exact, just decent. Attached are photos of recent in-progress builds sprayed with Vallejo Brunt Red 70.814 much thinned for airbrushing. What are your thoughts on adjusting the color? I added a Kadee UP boxcar and a black hopper for color reference.  Thank you for your input. 

 

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Re: Photos: Combine Shipment

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

John Deere's combine plant was in East Moline, Ill and started out either on Milw or CBQ. Both roads went to Omaha to the UP.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353

On Friday, April 30, 2021, 11:42:47 AM CDT, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photos: Combine Shipment

Photos from the Walla Walla Project blog:

https://tinyurl.com/437jp8zw

https://tinyurl.com/ts3w5jz8

https://tinyurl.com/2ax72cbj

Ninety-six cars loaded with 288 John Deere combines shipped to Pendleton, OR, for regional distribution.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Wisconsin Fish Commission Car “Badger”

Bruce Griffin
 

Group,

I can say I have fished parts of WV, especially the Elk River in Slaty Fork. It combines two great hobbies as you get to walk the right of way of the old WM where many freight cars once roamed and see what is left of the mill (it is great model kit available). And if it all works out, you catch trout. If you walk up the river far enough from Slaty Fork you get to see something I didn’t know existed. A big part of the river goes under a mountain and disappears in the dry season under the mountain. 

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Re: Photo: Unloading Grain

mel perry
 

Oh that had to be a s**t job unloadinrg
one of those
;-(
mel perry


On Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 2:58 PM Clarence Zink <clarence.zink@...> wrote:
Well, it sure isn't "unloading grain", but these photos of loading boxcars with coal from the Utah State Historical Society ought to be of interest also. 

Back in 1916, the Standard Fuel Company of Utah used "car tippers" to load coal into boxcars at the minesite:


CRZ


Re: Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

brianleppert@att.net
 

Dennis, I think you're right.  So for what I wrote, "never mind".

Brian


Re: Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

Dennis Storzek
 

On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 03:12 PM, brianleppert@... wrote:
That flat car does not have an ordinary deck.  Its thicker and covers over the stack pockets.  The car must b
I don't think that's a deck, but rather rub rails, possibly made of old rail. I kinda figured it was an early piggyback car.

Dennis Storzek 


Re: Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

brianleppert@att.net
 

That flat car does not have an ordinary deck.  Its thicker and covers over the stack pockets.  The car must be in special service.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: Photo: Unloading Grain

Clarence Zink
 

Well, it sure isn't "unloading grain", but these photos of loading boxcars with coal from the Utah State Historical Society ought to be of interest also. 

Back in 1916, the Standard Fuel Company of Utah used "car tippers" to load coal into boxcars at the minesite:


CRZ


Re: Photo: Unloading Grain

Clarence Zink
 

Mechanical car dumpers like these.  Photos from the Library of Congress Farm Security Administration/Office of War Information digital collection.  Photos are captioned: PRR Coal Loader Sandusky Oh 1943
CRZ


Re: Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

Dennis Storzek
 

On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 09:44 AM, Bob Chaparro wrote:
https://tinyurl.com/u4ardmpa
Andy,

Doesn't look to be the case here, but I can certainly see it with other apparatus.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Photos: Combine Shipment

Edward
 

On express box cars, they sometimes were returned to the owner's road in freight trains heading in that direction.
The could be empty or carrying clean, non-express lading on the return trip.
Likely the 96 car train of combines was run through like a special to Pendleton, making it an ideal train in which to put the UP express box car.
This train would not be broken up for classification along the way, just inspection, change of power and crew as it moved from one carrier to the next.
The route to Pendleton may have been directed to UP's easternmost connection.
Once the express box reached UP rails, obligation for its return ended.

Ed Bommer


Re: Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

Andy Laurent
 

On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 11:18 AM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
I suspect they don't have a end-of-track ramp, so drove it out on a flatcar then maneuvered it onto a side loading platform, which were much more common in small towns.

Dennis Storzek
...or they needed a flatcar to get the truck onto the ground via an end-unloading ramp. This was also fairly common in fire-apparatus unloading. The sharp angle of declination for most end ramps could have lead the end overhanging parts of the truck to strike the underside of the boxcar roof. I model this on my HO scale layout...fire truck loads need to have an "idler" flatcar spotted between them and the ramp.

Andy L.
Madison WI


Re: Photos: Combine Shipment

David Soderblom
 

It seems odd to see that UP express box in that string of cars.  Weren’t they reserved for express service?



David Soderblom
Baltimore MD USA





Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bruce,
 
That all certainly makes sense!
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

Claus,


Don’t trust captions. It would appear that the fire truck was being unloaded from a GTW boxcar, on the Union Pacific and no UP boxcars were involved. I highly doubt that the firetruck was driven across the flat car and into another boxcar.  The flat car probably served as an easier ramp to the loading dock. Alternatively, if there is no end ramp in the area, the flat car might allow the truck to then be jockeyed off the SIDE of the car onto a loading dock.

 

I can think of two reasons to transfer the truck to another car without unloading it immediately. First, it may be that the boxcar is facing the wrong direction and there was nowhere nearby to turn it. Alternatively, if the boxcar suffered some sort of mechanical issue that could not be repaired with the fire engine inside the car.

 

Regards,

Bruce

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)" <claus@...>
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Date: Friday, April 30, 2021 at 1:05 PM
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Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

 

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Hi Bob and List Members,

 

It seems to me that the end result of this process was to move the fire truck from one STMFC to another STMFC!

 

Not sure I understand what is being done exactly

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

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Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 12:44 PM

Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

 

Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

Photos from the Walla Walla Project blog:

https://tinyurl.com/3p9848f2

https://tinyurl.com/xd2hj65c

https://tinyurl.com/u4ardmpa

Description:

“New fire truck for the City unloaded from Union Pacific railroad boxcar, July 10th 1961.”

Grand Truck Western end-door boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Got it, thanks Dennis!
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

I suspect they don't have a end-of-track ramp, so drove it out on a flatcar then maneuvered it onto a side loading platform, which were much more common in small towns.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

Dennis Storzek
 

I suspect they don't have a end-of-track ramp, so drove it out on a flatcar then maneuvered it onto a side loading platform, which were much more common in small towns.

Dennis Storzek


Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

Bruce Smith
 

Claus,


Don’t trust captions. It would appear that the fire truck was being unloaded from a GTW boxcar, on the Union Pacific and no UP boxcars were involved. I highly doubt that the firetruck was driven across the flat car and into another boxcar.  The flat car probably served as an easier ramp to the loading dock. Alternatively, if there is no end ramp in the area, the flat car might allow the truck to then be jockeyed off the SIDE of the car onto a loading dock.

 

I can think of two reasons to transfer the truck to another car without unloading it immediately. First, it may be that the boxcar is facing the wrong direction and there was nowhere nearby to turn it. Alternatively, if the boxcar suffered some sort of mechanical issue that could not be repaired with the fire engine inside the car.

 

Regards,

Bruce

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)" <claus@...>
Reply-To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Friday, April 30, 2021 at 1:05 PM
To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

 

CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.

Hi Bob and List Members,

 

It seems to me that the end result of this process was to move the fire truck from one STMFC to another STMFC!

 

Not sure I understand what is being done exactly

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 12:44 PM

Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

 

Photo: Unloading A Fire Tuck

Photos from the Walla Walla Project blog:

https://tinyurl.com/3p9848f2

https://tinyurl.com/xd2hj65c

https://tinyurl.com/u4ardmpa

Description:

“New fire truck for the City unloaded from Union Pacific railroad boxcar, July 10th 1961.”

Grand Truck Western end-door boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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