Doug - Thanks for the info.  I have several plastic chambers I used initially in the business.  They end to implode with heavy use, something that I don't contemplate. - Al Westerfield

    If you can find an old paint pot you can use a compressor like Tom does.  If I remember correctly you only need about 40/50psi.

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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
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Guys;

The X29D are a very complicated class. The X29D had a lot of little detail differences than have been generally discussed, either for the kit research, or in the RPCyc article, IIRC. While some of the standard details have been talked out, there are still things like the "high tackboard/low tackboard" discussion that never made it to press. The brake equipment story also does not have a final answer, but some interesting leads.

I am not sure I understand your question, Mike. Series 25501-26500 were indeed the highest numbered block, but were all produced first, and in sequence, as-built, with stenciling stating "BLT. 8 24" (rebuilt 1952), not "rebuilt" as in the later series. They do all appear to have been numbered upwards in each series.

There is also the issue of which cars got the "Don't Stand Me Still" logo, and in what color.

If you're interested, I can dig up my "to-date" data package.

Elden Gatwood

Tim,

 Posted by: "Alfred Westerfield" westerfieldalfred@... al_westerfield
    Date: Sat Aug 8, 2015 8:08 pm ((PDT))

While resuming my modeling efforts I find I need some additional castings that are too fine to fill molds without vacuum. Obviously I now have no access to a high quality vacuum pump and don't wish to pay for one. Does anyone know if I can get away with a $100 pump? I'll be using very thin urethane resin. And I can accept a high percentage of rejects. - Al Westerfield

Tim,

Yes it is. In the late 1950s, the B&O and the MP instituted a special Baltimore to St. Louis COFC service using custom designed containers and special flat cars to carry them.

Part of the need for COFC was the low clearances on the B&O Parkerburg sub: Grafton to Parkersburg.

It was short lived service because the B&O day-lighted all the tunnels by the early 1960s allowing regular TOFC traffic.

There are some photos on the web for the MP equipment. I will look for the link. There were some articles published in the trade press when the service started.

An side the B&O recovered the relatively new underframes applied in ~1955 to the rebuilt M-15 wagon-top boxcars and converted some to TOFCEE and COFC service.

Regards,

Bob Witt

Reposted the file with corrections provided by the ACL/SAL group (Buddy Hill), added an IH column for the appropriate cars & corrected formatting errors.  This last issue was created when I converted the file from XLSX to XLS format.  If anyone has to have XLS format, let me know off-group and I will see if I can correct the formatting problems.  Again, let me know if you find any other errors.

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Thanks. Much better images. Steamtown will be advised.



Schuyler



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Schuyler,

Believe the link to the Harlem Transfer scan is printed backwards. Several
links to this and other scans of Harlem Transfer were posted by Mike Del
Vecchio to the STMFC back on 9-28-12. That link is:

http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-09-28-12

Matt Herson

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Subject: [STMFC] Overexposed, but still, freight cars

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-09-15/C1417.jpg

Harlem Transfer, DL&W, date unknown

Schuyler

could this be the correct date -- 1957 ? did the B&O operate COFC this early?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/381256721186

Tim O'Connor

This is probably a pointless note, but since I have six or eight of the Life-Like original kits I went to check if any were KCS.  Sorry to report none are, they're mostly NYC and SP.  Still, there are more of them here than I am ever likely to need.

PS they strip pretty well.


Ron Merrick

Eric and Bill:

Interesting mystery, and it leads to more questions. It doesn't appear that those missing numbers were ever filled. It looks like the Walthers people made an error <SHOCK!> . . . something I'm sure that almost never happens.

In my 1958 ORER the KCS 20800 series is broken into 20800-20801 and 20802-20809. The former pair are now XAP boxcars covered under note "S" which says they are equipped with special racks for loading Chevrolet front axles, designated as Circle 3 [?] loading. The "3" is partly blatzed out in my photocopy, so I'm not 100% sure of the wording. 20802-20809 remain as XM boxcars. There are no other cars with a 50' 6" IL, 10' 4" IH and 14' 6" door openings on the roster. However, there are 189 cars of virtually the same dimensions listed on sister line Louisiana & Arkansas as 36001-36200 except that they have a 9' door opening. Could these two groups be related?

Now series 20851-20900, 50' 6" Il, 10' 6" IH with 15' x 9' 10" door openings, should contain 50 cars but has only 14, plus 20859, 20866 and 20880 listed separately as XAP and covered under note S as above. That's just 17 cars. No other KCS cars match these dimensions. Hmmmm. Where are the other 33 cars? Also interesting, though not uncommon, series 20851 were originally XA and equipped with auto racks and chain tubes.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

Schuyler,



Believe the link to the Harlem Transfer scan is printed backwards. Several
links to this and other scans of Harlem Transfer were posted by Mike Del
Vecchio to the STMFC back on 9-28-12. That link is:

http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-09-28-12



Matt Herson



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:52 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Overexposed, but still, freight cars





http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-09-15/C1417.jpg



Harlem Transfer, DL&W, date unknown



Schuyler

I believe for my modeling needs either the Walthers Proto or the Proto 2000 kit will do just fine. We shall see which kit I stumble across first at the local swap meets.