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Re: New Haven XM-2

hummerdaves
 

Thanks Eric, will be checking your file this evening 
.

Dave Schroedle


Re: doors closed

Mark Drake <markstation01@...>
 

I think we've all learned our "doors open/closed" lesson to last a lifetime...

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From:"Tony Thompson tony@... [STMFC]"
Date:Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 3:44 PM
Subject:Re: [STMFC] doors closed

 

Consignees were instructed to close doors when finished. Some did, some didn't. Local crews who picked up the car were instructed to close doors, and would usually do so unless the door was hard to move. When the car got back to the yard, yardmen were instructed to close doors, and ordinarily did so, or got the door fixed. 


When doors were hard to move, consignees might use a fork lift or something along those lines to "help." This usually did not improve the sliding ability of that door. In principal, a door like that on an empty, arriving at a yard, would be set to the RIP track to see if it could be improved. But if the car distributor was desperate for cars, the car might be routed to a shipper, whose job it then was to try and close the door -- and he had some incentive to get that done.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
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Re: doors closed

Tony Thompson
 

Consignees were instructed to close doors when finished. Some did, some didn't. Local crews who picked up the car were instructed to close doors, and would usually do so unless the door was hard to move. When the car got back to the yard, yardmen were instructed to close doors, and ordinarily did so, or got the door fixed. 

When doors were hard to move, consignees might use a fork lift or something along those lines to "help." This usually did not improve the sliding ability of that door. In principal, a door like that on an empty, arriving at a yard, would be set to the RIP track to see if it could be improved. But if the car distributor was desperate for cars, the car might be routed to a shipper, whose job it then was to try and close the door -- and he had some incentive to get that done.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





doors closed

ed_mines
 

Railroads would prefer doors closed because nasty hobos would light fires, damaging the floor.


But if a receiver left a door open it might stay open.


Would railroads open doors to air out stinky cars?


Ed Mines


C&NW BOXCAR #65020

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

There was recently a photo of a great model of a C&NW boxcar
#65020. Was this one of the early Sunshine kits or was it part of
the Shake And Take kitbash?

Bill Pardie











































a
C&NW


Re: [EXTERNAL] Boxcar doors: open or closed when empty (UNCLASSIFIED)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

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Fran;

I can't speak to that early, but I was hauled all over the country, from our wintertime base in Pittsburgh, and I observed that cars coming MTY out of industries had some portion with usually one door open, like they left it open after unloading. Not a lot of them, but some. Railroaders, however, were directed to close all doors, so by the time it left a yard, the doors were usually closed. In really rural areas, were the only places I ever saw box cars moving with both doors open. I think it was a thing that someone was "airing out" a box car, or something. Also, on clean out tracks they often opened the doors to sweep them out, and left them with doors open (at least during daylight) to dry out. Then closed them before they were put in a train.

I have a few box cars modeled with one open door, some empty, and two with loads visible. For example, one has pallets of fire brick (refractory), which I like to drop off on the inbound with the closed side facing me at the interchange. Later, the car appears in the facility at the unloading area, with the open door facing me and the bricks visible. I like to feel that all the unusual things that go on at a steel plant are connected to the railroad.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 6:31 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] Boxcar doors: open or closed when empty



Modeling the B&O Shenandoah SD, late 1956. Many of my industries have outbound empty boxcars. How common (or not) was it for the doors to be left open when released as an empty? I figure some of you on the list might have an idea based upon the many photos you have seen.

Always appreciate the help. Thanks.

Fran Giacoma



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Interesting Freight Cars Photos from the Ellington Collection

rwitt_2000
 

Someone is selling photos from the Ellington Collection on eBay.

This link below should get one to the others up from auction.

Bob Witt

Mobile & Ohio M&O Automobile Box Car 9649 Frank Ellington 8x4 B&W Photo (0243)

 



Re: InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight

Tom Madden
 

Thanks a lot, Tim. You have just planted a really bizarre image in my brain.


Tom Madden



---In STMFC@..., <timboconnor@...> wrote :

I didn't know you were from Hollywood!



>My “F” stands for Frederic, an old family name… ;) <
>
>Regards
>
>Bruce F. Smith


Re: InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight

 

How about drilling the live stock w/ holes just big enough to "stuff" #9 buck shot or any other small lead/weight. White glue should hold it in if the holes are too big.
Andy Jackson
Bellflower CA


Re: InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight

Tim O'Connor
 

I didn't know you were from Hollywood!

My “F� stands for Frederic, an old family name� ;) <

Regards

Bruce F. Smith


Re: Boxcar doors: open or closed when empty

Alex Schneider
 


If the film "Emperor of the North" is any indication, railroaders were going to great lengths to "discourage" such riders during the Depression. In more contemporary jargon such efforts would be classified as "excessive force" if not "murder".

Alex Schneider
 


From: "Rio Grande Ltd rgmodels@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Boxcar doors: open or closed when empty



I used to see a lot of freight cars with the doors open until the railroads started discouraging bums from riding them.

eric bracher



-----Original Message-----
From: cepropst@q.com [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Wed, Apr 15, 2015 8:04 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Boxcar doors: open or closed when empty

 
As a kid living “very” near the tracks I do remember seeing through some cars and thinking it was neat! I bought a Walthers 50’ DD single sheathed box car when they first came out and built it with all the doors full open and added some dunnage inside. I ran the car on our portable layout at Trainfest. I think it got more comments than anything else. Not saying it was the right thing to do. Just saying it got attention. Just like the real cars did as a kid. At Train shows that’s a good thing.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa





Re: InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight

Bruce Smith
 

Bill,

That’s just one of the many reasons why we love you <VBG>.  The F in questions stands for a common colloquialism for sexual intercourse that is the pepper that spices the discourse of working railroaders (and sailors such as our illustrious Mr. Hom) everywhere.

My “F” stands for Frederic, an old family name… ;) 

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Apr 16, 2015, at 9:40 AM, fgexbill@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


What does the "F" stand for?

Bill Welch


Re: Boxcar doors: open or closed when empty

William Bryk <wmbryk@...>
 

As a child, I lived with my family near the D&H in Waterford NY.  Our backyard was separated from the railroad by a wire fence.  I spent much time looking through it at trains or watching trains pass from the kitchen window.  I saw some boxcars run past with doors open and most with doors closed.  As I was eight when that idyll ended in 1963, I know no more.

Regards,
William Bryk

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Rio Grande Ltd rgmodels@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

I used to see a lot of freight cars with the doors open until the railroads started discouraging bums from riding them.

eric bracher




-----Original Message-----
From: cepropst@q.com [STMFC] <STMFC@...>
To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Wed, Apr 15, 2015 8:04 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Boxcar doors: open or closed when empty

 
As a kid living “very” near the tracks I do remember seeing through some cars and thinking it was neat! I bought a Walthers 50’ DD single sheathed box car when they first came out and built it with all the doors full open and added some dunnage inside. I ran the car on our portable layout at Trainfest. I think it got more comments than anything else. Not saying it was the right thing to do. Just saying it got attention. Just like the real cars did as a kid. At Train shows that’s a good thing.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa




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Re: InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Hi BIll,
 
The "F" stands for FINE.
 
Read The Fine Question.
 
  -  Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight

What does the "F" stand for?

Bill Welch


Re: InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight

Mark Drake <markstation01@...>
 

Figure it out 

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From:"fgexbill@... [STMFC]"
Date:Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:40 AM
Subject:Re: [STMFC] InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight

 

What does the "F" stand for?


Bill Welch


Re: InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight

Bill Welch
 

What does the "F" stand for?

Bill Welch


Re: InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight

Bruce Smith
 

Bill,

RTFQ - Read the Question
ATFQ - Answer the Question
and some other popular ones...
CTFD - Close the Door
STFU - Shut up!

‘nough said

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Apr 16, 2015, at 8:33 AM, fgexbill@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:



Ben:

Hmm, I have no idea what RTFQ and ATFQ mean. Hope that does not make me a bad person.

Bill Welch


Re: InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight

Benjamin Hom
 

Bill Welch asked:
"Hmm, I have no idea what RTFQ and ATFQ mean. Hope that does not make me a bad person."

This website will help:
http://www.urbandictionary.com


Ben Hom


Re: InterMountain AT&SF stockcar weight

Bill Welch
 

Ben:

Hmm, I have no idea what RTFQ and ATFQ mean. Hope that does not make me a bad person.

Bill Welch


Re: Sunshine Alternate Std. Hopper Minikit

Bruce Smith
 

My thoughts exactly!  Either that, or “Scott - I’ll sell you that kit today - it comes with the AAR standard car sides already attached”  (aka an under Atlas car) Yeah, I guess it isn’t quite up to the IM standards, but you can bash it to that level ;)  Of course, there is also the Kadee car...

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



Huh? April 1st was two weeks ago?????

Brian J. Carlson

I'd like to see someone make a minikit to convert the IM alternate standard kit into the AAR standard car. 

Scott Haycock