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Re: Patrick Cudahy 37' reefer
Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...>
Lar thank you that's great. l used to have that book but it went in a big clearance when i changed the motorcycle ! thanks Paul Doggett UK Sent from Samsung mobile "mrprksr mrprksr@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote: Classic Freight Cars has a picture of Cudahy CRLX 5819 with BC Red ends and roof....The new Rapido reefer also uses this scheme...the sides are more yellow than Orange....Lar
On Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:21 AM, "paul.doggett2472@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote: Hi could anyone please tell me the colour of the ends and roof for a Patrick Cudahy 37' reefer circa 1950 I built the funaro & Camerlango kit (kit #3606) about 8 years ago but for whatever reason it never got painted and I have lost the instruction sheet I know the sides are orange. many thanks Paul Doggett UK
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Re: Wabash NOT USRA rebuild
Benjamin Hom
John Barry wrote:
http://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1944-Columbus-Georgia/i-TBnNB5s/A 1944 Columbus GA. Dead on for my era! A rebuilt boxcar, but NOT USRA! Original cars were "clones" with 7/8 Murphy ends - note the 3/7/8 Murphy ends of the rebuilt boxcar. The Sunshine flyers are misleading as the WAB cars are lumped in with true USRA rebuilds. http://www.sunshinekits.com/sunimages/sun09a.pdf http://www.sunshinekits.com/sunimages/sun64g.pdf See Martin Lofton's articles in the the May and August 1990 issues of Model RailroaDING for more information. The Wabash did receive allotments of USRA DS cars, but did not rebuild them to all-steel boxcars. Ben Hom
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New Decals
hubert mask
Please to announce two new MoPac decals.
87-275 & 87-276 KC rebuilds and Mt. Vernon build. More sets in the works. Please visit my web site at maskislanddecals.com Hubert Mask Mask Island Decals
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Re: SRE
Dale <dwwesley@...>
Standard Railway (Stanray) mainly manufactured Roofs, Ends, and uncoupling devices for freight cars in Hammond, IN. The corporate offices in 1961 were in Chicago, which was a holding company. Standard Railway was one of the division. An FYI was that a division of Stanray fabricated the main columns for the World Trade Center. Dale Florence
On Jul 13, 2014, at 10:23 AM, "water.kresse@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Wabash USRA rebuild
John Barry
1944 Columbus GA. Dead on for my era! John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights 707-490-9696 3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224 Cameron Park, CA 95682
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Re: NYC boxcar 163277
Dave Nelson
Roger, the answer is on drawing T-54247
Dave Nelson
p.s. I also endorse the utility of the NYC Historical Society CD’s. They can be a bit expensive but when you compute the per drawing cost it usually works out to dirt cheap.
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
No mention is made on this drawing of who the supplier is but it's obviously the vendor being discussed. The intermediate roof sheets( qty 10) are raised panel type with a two inch high profile, the two end sheets are flat
This drawing is available from the NYC Historical Society on their CD 157. Roof General Arrangements were prepared for the majority of the NYC box cars and are a better source of information than diagram books or full car general arrangrments.
Roger Hinman
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Re: Patrick Cudahy 37' reefer
mrprksr <mrprksr@...>
Classic Freight Cars has a picture of Cudahy CRLX 5819 with BC Red ends and roof....The new Rapido reefer also uses this scheme...the sides are more yellow than Orange....Lar
On Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:21 AM, "paul.doggett2472@... [STMFC]" wrote: Hi could anyone please tell me the colour of the ends and roof for a Patrick Cudahy 37' reefer circa 1950 I built the funaro & Camerlango kit (kit #3606) about 8 years ago but for whatever reason it never got painted and I have lost the instruction sheet I know the sides are orange. many thanks Paul Doggett UK
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Re: C&IM Mather-design boxcar?
Benjamin Hom
Bob Witt wrote:
"So there may be prototypes for all those oversize model tank cars?" Sure is - Tony Thompson keeps on highlighting this one: http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2011/05/modeling-sp-tank-cars.html Ben Hom
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C&O Decco end Box was Re: C&IM Mather-design boxcar?
John Barry
Next to a Southern DS auto car. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights 707-490-9696 3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224 Cameron Park, CA 95682
From: "'Claus Schlund HGM' claus@... [STMFC]" To: STMFC Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: [STMFC] C&IM Mather-design boxcar? Hi List Members,
C&IM Mather-design boxcar? http://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1949-Aug-Pocatello/i-GHSQPk5/0/O/Roll-0296_Pocatello_26-Aug-1949_016.jpg or if that does not work, try... http://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1949-Aug-Pocatello/i-GHSQPk5/A Enjoy! - Claus Schlund
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Patrick Cudahy 37' reefer
paul.doggett2472@...
Hi could anyone please tell me the colour of the ends and roof for a Patrick Cudahy 37' reefer circa 1950 I built the funaro & Camerlango kit (kit #3606) about 8 years ago but for whatever reason it never got painted and I have lost the instruction sheet I know the sides are orange. many thanks Paul Doggett UK
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Re: C&IM Mather-design boxcar?
rwitt_2000
David Thompson wrote: I'm more impressed by the giant tank car ahead of it.
So there may be prototypes for all those oversize model tank cars? ;-). Bob Witt
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Re: Aberdeen Proving Ground
water.kresse@...
Thank you. AK
From: "Steam Era Frt Car Group" To: "Steam Era Frt Car Group" Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 3:18:13 PM Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Aberdeen Proving Ground
In STMFC, Al Kresse commented "I was never there, but my Dad was there in 1938 for Ordinance Corps Basic Officers Training."
I suspect spell check struck again. As a former Army Ordnance officer with experience in both conventional munitions and tank/ground mobility materiel, I'm compelled to advise that an "ordinance" (with an 'i') is a piece of legislation enacted by a municipal authority (e.g., a city ordinance on parking, smoking in restaurants, etc.), while "ordnance" (without the 'i') goes boom. Moreover, as concerns this List, ordnance - ammunition, artillery, combat vehicles, etc. - was commonly shipped in/on steam era freight cars (and still is), while ordinances seldom need be shipped outside city limits, by rail or otherwise. Dave Sieber, Reno NV Ordnance Officer Basic and Mechanical Maintenance Officer courses, APG MD 1971 Ordnance Officer Advanced course, APG MD 1978
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Re: SRE
water.kresse@...
Tim,
I believe Hammond was more than an office and also manufactured components. The other facility was just based around a monster stamping press I believe.
Al Kresse
From: "Steam Era Frt Car Group" To: "Steam Era Frt Car Group" Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 6:36:27 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] SRE Al
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Re: NYC boxcar 163277
David
Judging by this:
Official Gazette of the United States Patent Office
looks like SRE started out in St. Louis. David Thompson
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Re: NYC boxcar 163277
Bob, that box car -- 19682 -- is almost certainly a Wabash box car built by General American in 1953, series 19500-19799 Tim
At 7/12/2014 04:13 PM Saturday, you wrote:
Found this ad for a diagonal pane roof in that collection for 1955. They use the term "Standard".
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Re: SRE
Al
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SRE listed Hammond Indiana as their address, but that could just be the office address. Tim O'
Was Peter Murphy and possibly his son still involved? Were their large stampings (first Murphy then Dreadnaught, etc. trademarked) still produced at Hobart, Indiana, just south of US Steel's Gary Works in 1961? Or, am I mixing up the chief characters?
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Re: NYC boxcar 163277
ROGER HINMAN
Back to the original question. I have a copy of New York Central drawing Y-54262 titled "General Arrangement, All Steel Roof, Freight Cars" dated Apr 24, 1946 which is applicable to Lot 743-B as well as five other contemporary lots.
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No mention is made on this drawing of who the supplier is but it's obviously the vendor being discussed. The intermediate roof sheets( qty 10) are raised panel type with a two inch high profile, the two end sheets are flat This drawing is available from the NYC Historical Society on their CD 157. Roof General Arrangements were prepared for the majority of the NYC box cars and are a better source of information than diagram books or full car general arrangrments. Roger Hinman
On Jul 12, 2014, at 4:13 PM, rwitt_2000@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Re: NYC boxcar 163277
rwitt_2000
Found this ad for a diagonal pane roof in that collection for 1955. They use the term "Standard".
Waide Collection of Vintage Railroad Advertisements 1950 - Present - WaidePhoto
Bob Witt
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Re: Aberdeen Proving Ground
David Sieber
In STMFC, Al Kresse commented "I was never there, but my Dad was there in 1938 for Ordinance Corps Basic Officers Training."
I suspect spell check struck again. As a former Army Ordnance officer with experience in both conventional munitions and tank/ground mobility materiel, I'm compelled to advise that an "ordinance" (with an 'i') is a piece of legislation enacted by a municipal authority (e.g., a city ordinance on parking, smoking in restaurants, etc.), while "ordnance" (without the 'i') goes boom. Moreover, as concerns this List, ordnance - ammunition, artillery, combat vehicles, etc. - was commonly shipped in/on steam era freight cars (and still is), while ordinances seldom need be shipped outside city limits, by rail or otherwise. Dave Sieber, Reno NV Ordnance Officer Basic and Mechanical Maintenance Officer courses, APG MD 1971 Ordnance Officer Advanced course, APG MD 1978
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Re: NYC boxcar 163277
proto48er
Ed - Many, many thanks!!! You have been a tremendous help in keeping us on the prototype "straight and narrow!" Anxiously awaiting an import....
A. T. Kott
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