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Schuyler Larrabee
 

From the Steamtown series of DL&W photos, ca 1918.

 

 

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-09-22-14/C5130.jpg

 

The B end.  It says so.

 

Schuyler
Re: WP/PFE reefer roofs

Bill Welch
 

I am curious why you ask Ed. The WP refrigerator cars w/Hutchins roofs used a very different version of a Hutchins roof I think.

Bill Welch
Re: weathering material for wood

Richard Townsend
 

Sometimes I lightly dry brush it with silver after the ink/alcohol mixture dries. 
 
Jim Wild and Duane Easterling wrote about dissolving steel wool in vinegar and using that solution to color wood.  Exposed to air it turns the wood a ruddy color, and not exposed to air (e.g. face down on aluminum foil) turns it a weathered gray.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Mon, Sep 22, 2014 4:06 pm
Subject: RE: [STMFC] weathering material for wood

 
And start with short soak times and go longer to go darker. 

Regards
Bruce Smith
Sitting in the Atlanta Airport, terminal E
From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:40 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] weathering material for wood



It's magic.
Try it, it works.
Just remember to thin it. About a tablespoon to a pint of alcohol.
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 9/22/2014 3:38 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Ok, I'm confuzzled. How does black dye turn wood silver? Wouldn't it just turn ... black?

Tim O'




If you want silver, try just black leather dye and alcohol. Lincoln is a good brand of leather dye and can be found at shoe repair places.
 
Jack Burgess
 
Subject: Re: [STMFC] weathering material for wood

I use a mix of black and brown leather dye diluted in alcohol.
 
Regards

Bruce
Re: weathering material for wood

Bruce Smith
 

And start with short soak times and go longer to go darker. 

Regards
Bruce Smith
Sitting in the Atlanta Airport, terminal E
From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:40 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] weathering material for wood



It's magic.
Try it, it works.
Just remember to thin it. About a tablespoon to a pint of alcohol.
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 9/22/2014 3:38 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:

 


Ok, I'm confuzzled. How does black dye turn wood silver? Wouldn't it just turn ... black?

Tim O'




If you want silver, try just black leather dye and alcohol. Lincoln is a good brand of leather dye and can be found at shoe repair places.
 
Jack Burgess
 
Subject: Re: [STMFC] weathering material for wood

I use a mix of black and brown leather dye diluted in alcohol.
 
Regards

Bruce
Re: WP/PFE reefer roofs

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Ed,

I modified four RC reefers with Tichy underframe parts following Richard Hendrickson's instructions in the April 1997 RMJ. This was an easy conversion. The Tichy underframe is just a bit large for the R-30-13, being for the 40-ton R-40-4. The difference is so slight nobody will notice.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 9/22/14 2:22 PM, ed_mines@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Anyone know of a good photo of these roofs?


Anyone have experience using an Accurail Hutcheons roof on a Red caboose reefer? Using a Tichy underframe on said RC reefer?


Ed Mines
Re: weathering material for wood

Pierre Oliver
 

It's magic.
Try it, it works.
Just remember to thin it. About a tablespoon to a pint of alcohol.
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 9/22/2014 3:38 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:

 


Ok, I'm confuzzled. How does black dye turn wood silver? Wouldn't it just turn ... black?

Tim O'




If you want silver, try just black leather dye and alcohol. Lincoln is a good brand of leather dye and can be found at shoe repair places.
 
Jack Burgess
 
Subject: Re: [STMFC] weathering material for wood

I use a mix of black and brown leather dye diluted in alcohol.
 
Regards

Bruce
Re: weathering material for wood

Tim O'Connor
 


Ok, I'm confuzzled. How does black dye turn wood silver? Wouldn't it just turn ... black?

Tim O'




If you want silver, try just black leather dye and alcohol. Lincoln is a good brand of leather dye and can be found at shoe repair places.
 
Jack Burgess
 
Subject: Re: [STMFC] weathering material for wood

I use a mix of black and brown leather dye diluted in alcohol.
 
Regards

Bruce
Re: weathering material for wood

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

If you want silver, try just black leather dye and alcohol. Lincoln is a good brand of leather dye and can be found at shoe repair places.

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 11:27 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] weathering material for wood

 



I use a mix of black and brown leather dye diluted in alcohol.

 

Regards

Bruce

 

Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."

 

 

On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:19 PM, ed_mines@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:






What do you currently use to turn wood a silver grey color?

 

Ed Mines

 

 
Re: weathering material for wood

Bruce Smith
 

I use a mix of black and brown leather dye diluted in alcohol.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:19 PM, ed_mines@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:



What do you currently use to turn wood a silver grey color?


Ed Mines
WP/PFE reefer roofs

ed_mines
 

Anyone know of a good photo of these roofs?


Anyone have experience using an Accurail Hutcheons roof on a Red caboose reefer? Using a Tichy underframe on said RC reefer?


Ed Mines
Re: weathering material for wood

Pierre Oliver
 

A thin wash of silver grey paint, like Floquil concrete
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 9/22/2014 2:19 PM, ed_mines@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

What do you currently use to turn wood a silver grey color?


Ed Mines
weathering material for wood

ed_mines
 

What do you currently use to turn wood a silver grey color?


Ed Mines
Re: Frisco Single Sheathed boxcar color what is a good match?

Charlie Duckworth
 

Gary
Thanks for the color suggestion.

Charlie Duckworth
Re: Bob's photo

Benjamin Hom
 

UPDATE: Bob's Photo (Bob Liljestrand) contact info from his business card picked up at the Mid-Atlantic RPM Meet 12-13 September:

Bob's Photo
PO Box 52
Wallingford KY 41093
(606) 845-3323




Ben Hom

Re: Fork Lifts

nvrr49@...
 

Here are some HO scale late 40's forklifts I scratch built for a lumberyard.  I have also done the largest model in O scale for a friend, as a kit, but I don't know if he has put it together yet.  The link will show all three models, prototype pics, etc.

Nirvana Valley Model Railroad: Fork Lifts for my Long-Bell Lumberyard diorama, 3d printed

 

Kent Hurley

KC, MO
Re: SANTA FE 50" REFERS (Class Rr-30)

tjcataldo
 

i think i have a side of a rr-30 bob

          tom cataldo

On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:52 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

There were 100 class Rr-30 fifty-foot ice bunker reefers (37290-37389) ordered by the railroad.  The last twenty-five (37365-37389) had Preco fans installed.

 

These reefers were not intended for fresh citrus shipments so much as they were used for frozen juice, flowers, wine and fish.  These were not “super-insulated” cars and were not primarily in frozen food service. Santa Fe had other classes of fifty-foot ice bunker reefers that were constructed as “super-insulated” and these were the main frozen food cars.


Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA




--
Thomas  j Cataldo
Re: SANTA FE 50" REFERS (Class Rr-30)

thecitrusbelt@...
 

There were 100 class Rr-30 fifty-foot ice bunker reefers (37290-37389) ordered by the railroad.  The last twenty-five (37365-37389) had Preco fans installed.

 

These reefers were not intended for fresh citrus shipments so much as they were used for frozen juice, flowers, wine and fish.  These were not “super-insulated” cars and were not primarily in frozen food service. Santa Fe had other classes of fifty-foot ice bunker reefers that were constructed as “super-insulated” and these were the main frozen food cars.


Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Re: SANTA FE 50" REFERS

Steve SANDIFER
 

Santa fe only had 100 rr30 s as I remember. They were not necessarily for frozen food but for low weight high volume commodities. See a review of the Athearn model on atsfrr.net site.


Sent by Steve Sandifer via the Samsung Galaxy S™III


-------- Original message --------
From: "WILLIAM PARDIE PARDIEW001@... [STMFC]"
Date:09/21/2014 1:28 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] SANTA FE 50" REFERS

 

I understand that the Santa Fe 50' refers (RR-10, RR-22, RR-30 and RR-31) were created
    for the frozen food industry.  The only photo that I have seen of these cars in service is
    a solid train of these cars behind a quartet of F units on Sullivans curve.  I have been told
    that this was a publicity shot.  I am curious as to the actual routing go these cars.  Were they
    run in GFX fruit  blocks or regular freights?

   Thanks in advance for any help.

   Bill Pardie
Re: Fork Lifts

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Tim,

Sure, it's modern, and it is 1/24th scale. Are you suggesting motorizing an HO forklift? Good luck! I'm sure it can be done, but . . . .

Back in the 70's I used to shop at the Crossing Gate in the hills above Oakland. The Grandt boys, and lot of other master tinkerers, hung out there. One day when I arrived, about 10 guys were clustered around the counter playing with a battery-powered Athearn Freightliner tractor and 40' van that had been motorized and equipped with radio control. It was a neat model, and really worked (reverse gear, and steerable). Certainly a mechanical marvel for its time, but not really much use.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 9/21/14 3:51 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Garth

That one is far too modern for STMFC. This inexpensive Lifelike model has some
potential at least for the 1950's.

http://www.osbornsmodels.com/ekmps/shops/osbornsmodels/images/life-like-1619-scenemaster-fork-lift-truck-9076-p%5Bekm%5D500x171%5Bekm%5D.gif

When I drove a forklift at a summer job after high school, there was a propane
bottle on the back -- the fuel supply. None of the available models has them but
I think it was a common practice.

Tim O'Connor



It has been done: http://www.carendt.com/small-layout-scrapbook/page-89-september-2009/

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 9/20/14 11:21 PM, harperandbrown@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

So, when can we expect an article on building an HO scale fork lift that we can use in our operating sessions?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA
TKM

naptownprr
 

All,

The summer issue of The Keystone Modeler has been posted.

Jim

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