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New products from Yarmouth Model Works

Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Gentlemen,
How many of you have broken plastic stirrups on your kit built or RTR plastic cars?
Well Yarmouth Model Works is trying to address that for you. We have available 6 different styles of etched metal stirrups designed to replace the fragile plastic ones that come from the factories.
There are more styles and designs coming later this year as well, which should address most needs.
You can see these parts at http://yarmouthmodelworks.com/details.php

Thanks

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Interesting car movements

Clark Propst
 

I’ve had a chance to see an M&StL train list from Oct. 21, 1952. The train, 196, ran from Ft Dodge to Des Moines Ia. had 19 loads 3 empties.
 
First two cars ahead of the caboose were NP 61143, 61101 listed as empty flats headed for Peoria. My first thought was why are these empty cars heading the wrong way? Are they an articulated set? Then I remembered there were large heavy equipment builders in Peoria. Were those cars assigned there? Next, why are these cars off on a secondary mainline? To get to Peoria they’ll travel from Ft Dodge to Des Moines, then on the Q (via trackage rights) to Oskaloosa Ia. before being added to a Peoria bound train. They must have delivered some heavy equipment up that way? Maybe to the Gypsum mines around Ft Dodge? Was there implement plants there? Cars could have been assigned to one and delivered implements to rural Iowa?
 
Second interesting move is three PFE reefers 90703, 2381, 6689 and one MDT 10441. 90703 has a load of melons and the other three carried grapes. These cars are from Ft Dodge (where train originated) bound for the Wabash in Des Moines. To me not knowing, or caring, much about western produce movements I’d think the eastern gateway would be Omaha - Council Bluffs? The IC run from CB to Ft Dodge. Maybe that’s how the M&StL got the cars? The RI ran from CB straight to Des Moines. Why weren’t the cars routed that way? The Wabash had a line into CB. Why weren’t the cars delivered to them there?
 
Fun stuff to ponder...
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Swift (SRLX) Steel Reefers in the Yellow Scheme?

Jim Gates
 

Hendrickson and Kaminski's Billboard Refrigerator Cars has a photo of SRLX 4011 in this scheme.  The captions says 36', 3500-6099 series, built March 1929, repainted May 1949.

Jim Gates



From: "wcfn100@..."
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 12:53 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Swift (SRLX) Steel Reefers in the Yellow Scheme?

 
I have a partial picture of a Swift steel reefer in the yellow scheme and was wondering if anyone has a source for any other pictures of this combination.  And a related question, would anyone have an idea when the first 36' steel reefers were delivered for Swift?  The Refrigerator Car Color Guide shows the 1954 cars and later, but there were earlier number series as well (based on the dimensions in the ORER).

Thanks,

Jason Kliewer
Colorado Springs, CO



PRR K7 stock car questions

proto48er
 

Guys -  Is there a photo somewhere on the internet or in a book of a PRR K7 stock car that was taken in the 40's or 50's?  I understand that only 25 K7 stock cars were built in 1913 and later numbered in series PRR #648314 - 648338.  I am NOT asking about the K7a stock cars! 

In the 1/48 ORER, 17 of the original 25 cars were still active, with the last one being retired in 1953.  As of 1/48, cars #648320, #648326, #648327, #648328, #648332, #648335, #648336 and #648337 had been retired. I recall photos in an early Keystone Modeler taken by a guy who had tried to photograph one car from every PRR class, but cannot find the article to see whether a K7 photo was included. 

We have a nice O scale model (PSC #15815) that purports to be a K7 and has a long letterboard to the left of the door, presumably for the word "PENNSYLVANIA".  Is this correct for these cars in the 1940's time period?

Thanks for your reply!

A.T. Kott


Erie 79000 series box cars

ed_mines
 

Want to see some nice photos of these? Go to the fallen flags site-> Erie -> box cars

Also check out the diagram book.

IMCX (?), Red Caboose, Intermountain kit with Viking roof from DesPlaines hobby (maybe intermountain too).

 

Ed Mines


 


Tichy

ed_mines
 

I too like the Tichy company and buy from them direct.

Why not ask them for a better AB brake set, similar to Cal Scale?

 

Ed Mines


Re: Oval ribed gondola end

caboose9792@...
 

Dennis, if they are the same as the Boxcar end, should be a "Van Dorn steel end" and replaced the companies bull's eye pattern end.
 
 
Mark Rickert
 

In a message dated 3/31/2014 5:20:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, destorzek@... writes:
I ran into drawings of these ends when sorting Haskell & Barker drawings at the Pullman Library at IRM; this seemed to be an in-house design, since there were drawings for the forming die, and I suppose these should be called the Haskell & Barker end. Unfortunately, they didn't sell very many; the Monon had some as Bill mentioned, the Soo had a series of composite gons built in 1921 for the Clarkson Coal Co. and purchased second hand in 1927, and also a series purchased new from Pullman in 1923, just after Pullman absorbed H&B. Interestingly, the two groups have the ends oriented opposite ways; the ex-Clarkson cars have the spiral rib facing out, like the Monon cars, while the 1923 cars have the ribs facing in.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Vendome Tank Car Company

Aley, Jeff A
 

Bill,

 

               There’s a surprising amount of stuff on Google.  Search both regular Google as well as Google Images.  Even the “pin up” photo on eBay actually has some interesting info.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Bill Welch
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 2:03 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Vendome Tank Car Company

 

 

I am trying to make a decision about how to decal one of my Southern Car & Foundry's Standard Steel Car model. One option is a car for the Vendome Tank Car Company based in Oklahoma. I assume  this company served that states oil companies, something I know very little about. Can someone offer some wisdom in terms of where these cars cars would have been making deliveries? Thank you.

Bill Welch

2225 Nursery Road; #20-104

Clearwater, FL 33764-7622

727.470.9930

 


Re: UP steel boxcars

Jack McGarry
 

Not sure but almost all express cars have at least different details from the straight freight cars - body and under frame

Jack McGarry

Allegheny Scale Models
470 Schooley's Mountain Road
Suite 8-117
Hackettstown, New Jersey
07840


908-684-2070 (Voice)
908-684-8911 (FAX)
908-436-7581 (Cell)


On Apr 3, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Brad Andonian <cereshill@...> wrote:

 

I am curious if there is a difference between the BE-30-31 class of double door express boxcars and the A-50-16 double door auto boxcars.

Thanks,
Brad Andonian


Vendome Tank Car Company

Bill Welch
 

I am trying to make a decision about how to decal one of my Southern Car & Foundry's Standard Steel Car model. One option is a car for the Vendome Tank Car Company based in Oklahoma. I assume  this company served that states oil companies, something I know very little about. Can someone offer some wisdom in terms of where these cars cars would have been making deliveries? Thank you.

Bill Welch
2225 Nursery Road; #20-104
Clearwater, FL 33764-7622
727.470.9930



UP steel boxcars

Brad Andonian
 

I am curious if there is a difference between the BE-30-31 class of double door express boxcars and the A-50-16 double door auto boxcars.

Thanks,
Brad Andonian


Re: Photos With Freight Car Details

Tom Madden
 

Des Plaines/IMWX kit #132, car #78627. Don't know if the other car numbers also had different kit numbers. Bought it many years ago and put a note with it saying the car needs 8 rung ladders (on the off chance I ever build it). Red body, black ends and roof, gorgeous lettering job. Lettering is exactly as shown in the photo in Ben's second link, including the trust lettering in the upper left corner.

Tom Madden


Re: End Views – Reefers & Hopper At Swift & Company (Denver)

Bruce Smith
 

I agree with those saying the hoppers are being loaded.  An additional option may be bone meal.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/


"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Apr 3, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Richard Brennan wrote:

Bob

To my eye... the chute coming out of the building at the left is
right above the hopper...
could it be loading rather than un-loading?

Perhaps ash/clinkers from the boiler room?

--------------------
Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
--------------------


At 08:51 AM 4/3/2014, thecitrusbelt@... wrote:
Here is a link to a photo from the Denver Public Library Digital
Collection showing Swift and Company operations in that city.
Swift Plant, circa 1917

Nice end views of SRL 17878 and SRL 12544 (reefers) and UP 80768 (hopper)

Notice the way the reefers are being iced (or maybe salted)

The hoppers appear to have gravel in them.

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/34939/rec/38






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Re: End Views – Reefers & Hopper At Swift & Company (Denver)

Richard Townsend
 

I believe that it is loading cinders.  The building to the left of the hoppers was the power plant for the slaughterhouse.  I think the pit is where incoming coal was unloaded, and then some cars were loaded or reloaded with cinders going out via the chute.
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Brennan
To: STMFC
Sent: Thu, Apr 3, 2014 9:04 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] End Views – Reefers & Hopper At Swift & Company (Denver)

 
Bob

To my eye... the chute coming out of the building at the left is
right above the hopper...
could it be loading rather than un-loading?

Perhaps ash/clinkers from the boiler room?

--------------------
Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
--------------------

At 08:51 AM 4/3/2014, thecitrusbelt@... wrote:
>Here is a link to a photo from the Denver Public Library Digital
>Collection showing Swift and Company operations in that city.
>Swift Plant, circa 1917
>
>Nice end views of SRL 17878 and SRL 12544 (reefers) and UP 80768 (hopper)
>
>Notice the way the reefers are being iced (or maybe salted)
>
>The hoppers appear to have gravel in them.
>
>http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/34939/rec/38
>
>


Re: End Views – Reefers & Hopper At Swift & Company (Denver)

rwitt_2000
 

It also looks like there maybe a crude pit between the rails near the UP hopper.
Could the hopper be some sort of early ballast hopper as the hopper has both end slope sheets and side sloop sheets directing the contents towards a central outlet? An interesting car indeed.

Bob Witt


Re: End Views - Reefers & Hopper At Swift & Company (Denver)

Douglas Harding
 

Bob, I doubt it is salt in those buckets over the reefers, more likely crushed ice. Salt would be added via scoop shovels. The overhead trolley system for moving ice was found at several meat packing plants, allowing icing to take place even as cars are being loaded at some plants. Other plants used two wheel carts on upper ice decks to deliver cruised ice via tubes.

 

The hoppers are being filled with byproducts, ie offal or perhaps fertilizer. Note the chute over the closest hopper. I don’t know if the Swift plant in Denver had an on-site fertilizer plant, some meat packers did.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Swift (SRLX) Steel Reefers in the Yellow Scheme?

Jason Kliewer
 

HIi Jeff thanks for the link, I don't know why I always forget about checking there.  I didn't see any pictures but the article at least talks about yellow steel reefers.  I'll read through it better later.


Jason


Re: End Views – Reefers & Hopper At Swift & Company (Denver)

David
 

The UP hopper looks like a variation on the original Pressed Steel design. The end platforms and the tapered side sheets are rather unusual. The date would be later than 1917, judging by the C&S USRA hopper behind it.

David Thompson


Re: End Views – Reefers & Hopper At Swift & Company (Denver)

Richard Brennan <brennan8@...>
 

Bob

To my eye... the chute coming out of the building at the left is right above the hopper...
could it be loading rather than un-loading?

Perhaps ash/clinkers from the boiler room?

--------------------
Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
--------------------

At 08:51 AM 4/3/2014, thecitrusbelt@... wrote:
Here is a link to a photo from the Denver Public Library Digital Collection showing Swift and Company operations in that city.
Swift Plant, circa 1917

Nice end views of SRL 17878 and SRL 12544 (reefers) and UP 80768 (hopper)

Notice the way the reefers are being iced (or maybe salted)

The hoppers appear to have gravel in them.

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/34939/rec/38


Re: Swift (SRLX) Steel Reefers in the Yellow Scheme?

Aley, Jeff A
 

Jason,

 

               Might the answer be found in Martin Lofton’s article: http://trainlife.com/magazines/pages/144/10400/february-1993-page-26 ?  I didn’t have the time to search the article to see if it has the answers you seek, so I apologize if it is of no help.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of wcfn100@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 10:53 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Swift (SRLX) Steel Reefers in the Yellow Scheme?

 

 

I have a partial picture of a Swift steel reefer in the yellow scheme and was wondering if anyone has a source for any other pictures of this combination.  And a related question, would anyone have an idea when the first 36' steel reefers were delivered for Swift?  The Refrigerator Car Color Guide shows the 1954 cars and later, but there were earlier number series as well (based on the dimensions in the ORER).

 

Thanks,

 

Jason Kliewer

Colorado Springs, CO

71101 - 71120 of 194675