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Re: GARX Reefers
Tom Palmer
Tom,
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According to the MKT Freight Equipment Folio No. 41, page 8. The 79001-79157 single sheathed boxcars built in 1943 at the Denison Texas car shops are rebuilds from the GARX 52001-52200 refrigerators. From what I have been able to determine the lease of these cars would have been terminated sometime in 1943 when the cars were purchased for conversion. Regards to all, Tom Palmer From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Richard Hendrickson Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 11:44 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] GARX Reefers
On Jan 1, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Thomas Baker <bakert@...> wrote:
Reference to GARX cars brings up a question: Just last night I visited an HO modeling friend. On his layout I saw a refrigerator car, GARX, leased to the MKT. Would this leasing arrangement have still been operational in 1952? Tom, there may be Katy modelers out there who can answer this question for certain, but it's my understanding that this lease agreement was interrupted by World War II and was not renewed after the war. Unfortunately, General American's ORER entries provide no enlightenment. I have several photos of these cars but they date from the late '30s/early '40s, with the most recent having been taken in 1941. Richard Hendrickson
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Re: 3 3 3 dreadnaught ends
rwitt_2000
Was it the old Arden kit for a Wabash 40-ft SS box car?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Arden-Realistic-Model-Trains-WABASH-HO-40-AUTOMOBILE-CAR-Kits-NIB-RARE-/301040450452?nma=true&si=Eysh4hnZnlAgSA048Ize%252FnaAiSM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Regards, Bob Witt
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Re: 3 3 3 dreadnaught ends
rwitt_2000
Was it the old kit by Arden for a Wabash 40-ft SS automobile box car? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Arden-Realistic-Model-Trains-WABASH-HO-40-AUTOMOBILE-CAR-Kits-NIB-RARE-/301040450452?nma=true&si=Eysh4hnZnlAgSA048Ize%252FnaAiSM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Regards, Bob Witt
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Re: GARX Reefers
Richard Hendrickson
On Jan 1, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Thomas Baker <bakert@...> wrote:
Tom, there may be Katy modelers out there who can answer this question for certain, but it’s my understanding that this lease agreement was interrupted by World War II and was not renewed after the war. Unfortunately, General American’s ORER entries provide no enlightenment. I have several photos of these cars but they date from the late ‘30s/early ‘40s, with the most recent having been taken in 1941. Richard Hendrickson
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Re: GARX Reefers
Thomas Baker
Reference to GARX cars brings up a question: Just last night I visited an HO modeling friend. On his layout I saw a refrigerator car, GARX, leased to the MKT. Would
this leasing arrangement have still been operational in 1952? Tom Baker
From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...] on behalf of abrown@... [abrown@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 6:14 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] RE: GARX Reefers Number of cars in GARX 67750-67999, by ORER date: 1/43, 224; 7/50, 34; 1/53, 1. -- hth -- -- Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Re: GARX Reefers
Thanks guys! In summary
GARX 67750-67999
1-43 224 1-49 183 7-50 34 10-50 25 4-51 6 10-51 4 1-52 3 1-53 1
And the 16 RI ice cars (RI 65211-65226) come out in the first half of 1950. Still there is a bunch of cars leaving the roster at that time.
Happy New Year!
Steve Hile
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[mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of abrown@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 5:15 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] RE: GARX Reefers
Number of
cars in GARX 67750-67999, by ORER date: 1/43, 224; 7/50, 34; 1/53, 1.
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Re: HO Archbar Trucks
earlyrail
Go to the Precision Scale web site www.precisionscaleco.com Detail Parts Springs scroll down item 31968 item 357 on next page Howard Garner --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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Re: GARX Reefers
al_brown03
Number of cars in GARX 67750-67999, by ORER date: 1/43, 224; 7/50, 34; 1/53, 1.
-- hth -- -- Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Re: HO Archbar Trucks
Dave Lawler
Paul, I have several dozen of the bronze leaf spring sets left over from our kits (The Car Shop). I'll certainly never use them all and I will be glad to send you what you need for your project.
Also, the Central Valley archbar trucks, part No T-53, are 5' wheelbase and these springs should fit them correctly. Dave Lawler
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Re: GARX Reefers
Richard Hendrickson
On Dec 31, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
Steve, the 10/50 ORER shows 25 cars in the GARX 67750-67999 series and, as additions not previously in the roster, 16 ice reefers of the same dimensions numbered 65211-65226. Richard Hendrickson
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Re: HO Archbar Trucks
rick@...
Paul, the leaf springs are available on the PSC site. Look under Misc-Springs, item #31968.
Rick Aylsworth
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Re: HO Archbar Trucks
Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...>
As I recall, the Central Valley archbar trucks were 5', and their helical springs could be replaced by the stamped leaf springs made by Silver Streak. The latter may still available from Ye Olde Huff N' Puff. Good looking combination.
Denny
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Re: HO Archbar Trucks
Paul Hillman
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Don't know why the link didn't work,.........try again,.....
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Re: HO Archbar Trucks
Paul Hillman
Group,
Anyone familiar with these old Walthers arch-bar, spring-leaf trucks being
sold on eBay, as to journal-spacing and side-frame design?
Paul Hillman
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Re: GARX Reefers
Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
1-49;4-51
GARX 67750-67999 183; 6
RI 65211-65226 0; 16
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Re: HO Archbar Trucks
Paul Hillman
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Chuck,
Thanks for the lead to PSC. Went there and didn't see any individual
leaf-springs but there are arch-bar leaf-spring type trucks, but, again, no
journal-spacings. Would have to contact them about that.
Kadee doesn't state their journal-spacings either, but after receiving
their #583's they are 5'-6".
Paul Hillman
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Re: HO Archbar Trucks
Charles Hladik
PSC still sells separate leaf springs. Is Kadee arch bar not 5'0"?
Chuck Hladik
In a message dated 12/31/2013 12:41:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jack@... writes:
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Re: HO Archbar Trucks
Paul Hillman
Jack,
What a great find and such a fast response to my query. I bought them off
eBay. Now if I can just find somemore, or at least the bronze leafs.
Thanks a bunch,
Paul Hillman
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GARX Reefers
I am trying to track a group of Rock Island reefers that were built by GAT in 1924 and then sold to and leased back from General American in the Depression - GARX (formerly RI) 67750 – 67999. Does anyone have the appropriate pages from ORER’s between 1948 and 1952 that they could share with me? The RI purchased 16 back for ice service in the early 50’s, but I wonder what happened to the rest.
Thanks in advance and Happy New Year.
Looking forward to PR 2014.
Steve Hile
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Re: HO Archbar Trucks
Get the correct wheelbase Tahoe trucks cut out and replace the coil springs with leaf springs. Brian Carlson.
On Dec 31, 2013, at 12:19 PM, "Paul Hillman" <chris_hillman@...> wrote:
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