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Re: GARX Reefers

Tom Palmer
 

Tom,

According to the MKT Freight Equipment Folio No. 41, page 8.
The 79001-79157 single sheathed boxcars built in 1943 at the Denison Texas
car shops are rebuilds from the GARX 52001-52200 refrigerators. From what I
have been able to determine the lease of these cars would have been
terminated sometime in 1943 when the cars were purchased for conversion.



Regards to all, Tom Palmer



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Richard Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 11:44 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] GARX Reefers

On Jan 1, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Thomas Baker <bakert@...> wrote:





Reference to GARX cars brings up a question: Just last night I visited an HO
modeling friend. On his layout I saw a refrigerator car, GARX, leased to
the MKT. Would this leasing arrangement have still been operational in
1952?

Tom, there may be Katy modelers out there who can answer this question for
certain, but it's my understanding that this lease agreement was interrupted
by World War II and was not renewed after the war. Unfortunately, General
American's ORER entries provide no enlightenment. I have several photos of
these cars but they date from the late '30s/early '40s, with the most recent
having been taken in 1941.



Richard Hendrickson


Re: 3 3 3 dreadnaught ends

rwitt_2000
 

Was it the old Arden kit for a Wabash 40-ft SS box car?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Arden-Realistic-Model-Trains-WABASH-HO-40-AUTOMOBILE-CAR-Kits-NIB-RARE-/301040450452?nma=true&si=Eysh4hnZnlAgSA048Ize%252FnaAiSM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Regards,

Bob Witt


Re: 3 3 3 dreadnaught ends

rwitt_2000
 

Was it the old kit by Arden for a Wabash 40-ft SS automobile box car?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Arden-Realistic-Model-Trains-WABASH-HO-40-AUTOMOBILE-CAR-Kits-NIB-RARE-/301040450452?nma=true&si=Eysh4hnZnlAgSA048Ize%252FnaAiSM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


Regards,


Bob Witt


Re: GARX Reefers

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jan 1, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Thomas Baker <bakert@...> wrote:

Reference to GARX cars brings up a question: Just last night I visited an HO modeling friend.  On his layout I saw a refrigerator car, GARX, leased to the MKT.  Would this leasing arrangement have still been operational in 1952?
Tom, there may be Katy modelers out there who can answer this question for certain, but it’s my understanding that this lease agreement was interrupted by World War II and was not renewed after the war.  Unfortunately, General American’s ORER entries provide no enlightenment.  I have several photos of these cars but they date from the late ‘30s/early ‘40s, with the most recent having been taken in 1941.

Richard Hendrickson



Re: GARX Reefers

Thomas Baker
 

Reference to GARX cars brings up a question: Just last night I visited an HO modeling friend.  On his layout I saw a refrigerator car, GARX, leased to the MKT.  Would this leasing arrangement have still been operational in 1952? 

Tom Baker


From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...] on behalf of abrown@... [abrown@...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 6:14 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] RE: GARX Reefers



Number of cars in GARX 67750-67999, by ORER date: 1/43, 224; 7/50, 34; 1/53, 1.

-- hth --

-- Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: GARX Reefers

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Thanks guys!  In summary

 

GARX 67750-67999

 

1-43            224

1-49            183

7-50            34

10-50        25

4-51            6

10-51        4

1-52            3

1-53            1

 

And the 16 RI ice cars (RI 65211-65226) come out in the first half of 1950.  Still there is a bunch of cars leaving the roster at that time.

 

Happy New Year!

 

Steve Hile

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of abrown@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 5:15 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] RE: GARX Reefers

 

 

Number of cars in GARX 67750-67999, by ORER date: 1/43, 224; 7/50, 34; 1/53, 1.

-- hth --

-- Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: HO Archbar Trucks

earlyrail
 


Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:09 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Paul Hillman" behillman

Chuck,

Thanks for the lead to PSC. Went there and didn't see any individual leaf-springs but there are arch-bar leaf-spring type trucks, but, again, no journal-spacings. Would have to contact them about that.
Go to the Precision Scale web site
www.precisionscaleco.com

Detail Parts
Springs
scroll down
item 31968
item 357 on next page

Howard Garner

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Re: GARX Reefers

al_brown03
 

Number of cars in GARX 67750-67999, by ORER date: 1/43, 224; 7/50, 34; 1/53, 1.

-- hth --

-- Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: HO Archbar Trucks

Dave Lawler
 

Paul, I have several dozen of the bronze leaf spring sets left over from our kits (The Car Shop). I'll certainly never use them all and I will be glad to send you what you need for your project.
Also, the Central Valley archbar trucks, part No T-53, are 5' wheelbase and these springs should fit them correctly.
Dave Lawler


Re: GARX Reefers

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Dec 31, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

I am trying to track a group of Rock Island reefers that were built by GAT in 1924 and then sold to and leased back from General American in the Depression - GARX (formerly RI) 67750 – 67999.  Does anyone have the appropriate pages from ORER’s between 1948 and 1952 that they could share with me?  The RI purchased 16 back for ice service in the early 50’s, but I wonder what happened to the rest.   
Steve, the 10/50 ORER shows 25 cars in the GARX 67750-67999 series and, as additions not previously in the roster, 16 ice reefers of the same dimensions numbered 65211-65226.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: HO Archbar Trucks

rick@...
 

Paul, the leaf springs are available on the PSC site. Look under Misc-Springs, item #31968.

Rick Aylsworth


Re: HO Archbar Trucks

Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...>
 

As I recall, the Central Valley archbar trucks were 5', and their helical springs could be replaced by the stamped leaf springs made by Silver Streak. The latter may still available from Ye Olde Huff N' Puff. Good looking combination.

Denny


Re: HO Archbar Trucks

Paul Hillman
 


Don't know why the link didn't work,.........try again,.....
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] HO Archbar Trucks



Group,

 
Anyone familiar with these old Walthers arch-bar, spring-leaf trucks being sold on eBay, as to journal-spacing and side-frame design?
 
 
Paul Hillman
 
 


Re: HO Archbar Trucks

Paul Hillman
 


Group,
 
Anyone familiar with these old Walthers arch-bar, spring-leaf trucks being sold on eBay, as to journal-spacing and side-frame design?
 
Paul Hillman
 
 


Re: GARX Reefers

Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
 

1-49;4-51
GARX 67750-67999 183; 6
RI 65211-65226 0; 16

I am trying to track a group of Rock Island reefers that were built by GAT in 1924 and then sold to and leased back from General American in the Depression - GARX (formerly RI) 67750 – 67999.  Does anyone have the appropriate pages from ORER’s between 1948 and 1952 that they could share with me?  The RI purchased 16 back for ice service in the early 50’s, but I wonder what happened to the rest. 
 
Steve Hile


Re: HO Archbar Trucks

Paul Hillman
 


Chuck,
 
Thanks for the lead to PSC. Went there and didn't see any individual leaf-springs but there are arch-bar leaf-spring type trucks, but, again, no journal-spacings. Would have to contact them about that.
 
Kadee doesn't state their journal-spacings either, but after receiving their #583's they are 5'-6".
 
Paul Hillman
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] HO Archbar Trucks

 

PSC still sells separate leaf springs. Is Kadee arch bar not 5'0"?
Chuck Hladik
 


Re: HO Archbar Trucks

Charles Hladik
 

PSC still sells separate leaf springs. Is Kadee arch bar not 5'0"?
Chuck Hladik
 

In a message dated 12/31/2013 12:41:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jack@... writes:
 

Sorry, I missed the leaf spring request. The bronze leaf springs you remember were from Central Valley which made 5' wheel base arch bars with "real" springs which could be replaced with leaf springs. I just checked eBay and there is a pair for sale:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-2-Pair-of-Metal-Sprung-Arch-Bar-Trucks-1-Pair-Leaf-Springs-OC-233-/360774967855?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item53ffdd222f

Jack Burgess

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Paul Hillman
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 9:19 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] HO Archbar Trucks




Jack,

I've seen the Tahoe trucks but no leaf-springs. Years ago I remember someone making thin, bronze, leaf-springs to replace regular springs. Are those still made?

Paul Hillman

----- Original Message -----

From: Jack Burgess

To: STMFC@...

Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:09 AM

Subject: RE: [STMFC] HO Archbar Trucks

 

Tahoe Model Works makes both 5'-6" and 5' wheelbase arch bar trucks...

Jack Burgess

Newark, CA

Paul,

I'm in the same boat.  Hopefully some will have a positive answer.

Bill Hoss

In a message dated 12/31/2013 10:48:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, chris_hillman@... writes:

I can't find any HO 5'-0" leaf-spring, archbar trucks. Kadee has them in 5'-6". Anyone make them?

Thanks, Paul Hillman









Re: HO Archbar Trucks

Paul Hillman
 

Jack,
 
What a great find and such a fast response to my query. I bought them off eBay. Now if I can just find somemore, or at least the bronze leafs.
 
Thanks a bunch,
Paul Hillman
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] HO Archbar Trucks

 

Sorry, I missed the leaf spring request. The bronze leaf springs you remember were from Central Valley which made 5' wheel base arch bars with "real" springs which could be replaced with leaf springs. I just checked eBay and there is a pair for sale:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-2-Pair-of-Metal-Sprung-Arch-Bar-Trucks-1-Pair-Leaf-Springs-OC-233-/360774967855?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item53ffdd222f

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Paul Hillman
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 9:19 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] HO Archbar Trucks

 




Jack,

 

I've seen the Tahoe trucks but no leaf-springs. Years ago I remember someone making thin, bronze, leaf-springs to replace regular springs. Are those still made?

 

Paul Hillman

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jack Burgess

To: STMFC@...

Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:09 AM

Subject: RE: [STMFC] HO Archbar Trucks

 

 

Tahoe Model Works makes both 5'-6" and 5' wheelbase arch bar trucks...

Jack Burgess

Newark, CA

Paul,

I'm in the same boat.  Hopefully some will have a positive answer.

Bill Hoss

In a message dated 12/31/2013 10:48:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, chris_hillman@... writes:

I can't find any HO 5'-0" leaf-spring, archbar trucks. Kadee has them in 5'-6". Anyone make them?

Thanks, Paul Hillman









GARX Reefers

Steve and Barb Hile
 

I am trying to track a group of Rock Island reefers that were built by GAT in 1924 and then sold to and leased back from General American in the Depression - GARX (formerly RI) 67750 – 67999.  Does anyone have the appropriate pages from ORER’s between 1948 and 1952 that they could share with me?  The RI purchased 16 back for ice service in the early 50’s, but I wonder what happened to the rest.   

 

Thanks in advance and Happy New Year.

 

Looking forward to PR 2014.

 

Steve Hile


Re: HO Archbar Trucks

Brian Carlson
 

Get the correct wheelbase Tahoe trucks cut out and replace the coil springs with leaf springs. 
Brian Carlson.


On Dec 31, 2013, at 12:19 PM, "Paul Hillman" <chris_hillman@...> wrote:

 

Jack,
 
I've seen the Tahoe trucks but no leaf-springs. Years ago I remember someone making thin, bronze, leaf-springs to replace regular springs. Are those still made?
 
Paul Hillman
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] HO Archbar Trucks

 

Tahoe Model Works makes both 5'-6" and 5' wheelbase arch bar trucks...

Jack Burgess

Newark, CA

Paul,

I'm in the same boat.  Hopefully some will have a positive answer.

Bill Hoss

In a message dated 12/31/2013 10:48:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, chris_hillman@... writes:

I can't find any HO 5'-0" leaf-spring, archbar trucks. Kadee has them in 5'-6". Anyone make them?

Thanks, Paul Hillman




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