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Re: Memory of Richard Hendrickson

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

All good points Tony. Everyone needs to keep in mind that some of Richard's early articles might have been about modifying existing plastic models which have long been supplanted by much more accurate resin and plastic kits...

 

Jack Burgess

 

Tony wrote:

         As Tim O'Connor stated, there are certainly copyright issues with journals to do such a reproduction. The content of the articles belongs to the author (if he did not sign over ALL rights to the magazine at publication time) but the journal holds the rights to the layout and physical appearance of the article, so it could not be simply copied and distributed. Moreover, many of the photos Richard used are the property of others. Most owners of photo rights give permission for one specific publication, not a blanket permission for all possible uses, so re-publication of photos presents a further challenge.

          I understand the wish to see everything in one place, but in practical terms it is not likely to happen. Moreover, I know Richard was no longer proud of some older articles and techniques, from say, the 1980s, so I would be hesitant to bundle EVERYTHING in any case.

 








Re: Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

Benjamin Hom
 

Rich Yoder wrote:
"IN “O” Scale the panel side cars imported by US Hobbies and Max Gray were NYC and subsidiary RRs’.

Custom Brass imported C&O panel side cars."
This is why I asked for a photo.  There aren't that many prototypes, but they are different, and it helps to avoid going down rabbit holes from well-meaning but possibly misinformed guesses.


Ben Hom


Re: Memory of Richard Hendrickson

Tony Thompson
 

David Turner wrote:

For those of us who came late to the prototype modeling fraternity, and don't have a complete library of all past publications, I (and probably many others) would jump at the chance to buy a compilation of all of Richard Hendrickson's many articles in the various magazines.

Tony Thompson mentioned that Richard had published more than 400 articles. I searched on the Kalmbach index of magazine articles and found 166 listed, some of which, but not all, can be viewed on the TrainLife website.


        I have seen Richard's own list of articles, which is where the number 400 comes from. Whether the Kalmbach index result is correct, I would doubt. I have searched it for articles of Richard's that DO EXIST and cannot find them under Richard's name, so many may have fallen through the cracks.
         As Tim O'Connor stated, there are certainly copyright issues with journals to do such a reproduction. The content of the articles belongs to the author (if he did not sign over ALL rights to the magazine at publication time) but the journal holds the rights to the layout and physical appearance of the article, so it could not be simply copied and distributed. Moreover, many of the photos Richard used are the property of others. Most owners of photo rights give permission for one specific publication, not a blanket permission for all possible uses, so re-publication of photos presents a further challenge.
          I understand the wish to see everything in one place, but in practical terms it is not likely to happen. Moreover, I know Richard was no longer proud of some older articles and techniques, from say, the 1980s, so I would be hesitant to bundle EVERYTHING in any case.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: Memory of Richard Hendrickson

Tim O'Connor
 

David I think it is way too early to be thinking of this. I assume
that the copyrights are now the property of Sandra and she surely has
more important things to think about.

Tim O'Connor

For those of us who came late to the prototype modeling fraternity, and
don't have a complete library of all past publications, I (and probably
many others) would jump at the chance to buy a compilation of all of
Richard Hendrickson's many articles in the various magazines.

I understand that this would, of necessity, be a photocopy/scan type of
publication in several volumes (perhaps similar to the "Train Shed
Cyclopedia" series).

Tony Thompson mentioned that Richard had published more than 400
articles. I searched on the Kalmbach index of magazine articles and
found 166 listed, some of which, but not all, can be viewed on the
TrainLife website.

A compilation of his published work would represent a "Magnum Opus" that
I would highly value.

Still staggered by the sense of loss,
David Turner
Keeping the S.P. & S. Ry. alive in Santa Rosa, California


Re: Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

water.kresse@...
 

Rich is correct.  They played with only painting behind the stenciling with HSLA steels and then rely on skinning coat of rust on a few test cars in the joint C&O/B&O era.   Gene Huddleston photographed a few of them.  They eventually painted the entire cars.
Al


From: "Steam Era Frt Car Group"
To: "Steam Era Frt Car Group"
Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2014 8:19:43 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

 

All C&O Hoppers were black with the exception of 5 aluminum twin hoppers that were not painted.

Sincerely,

Rich Yoder

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 6:01 PM
To: STMFC@...; Al Kresse
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

Dear Al,

Are these cars red or black please? seeking a post '45 color.

Thank you,

Brad Andonian

On Saturday, July 5, 2014 1:33 PM, "water.kresse@... [STMFC]"
We also did a C&O His Mag article on them a while back.

Photos of these C&O 17XXXX series 70-ton hopper cars will also show up in the C&OHS's soon to be published (ready for publisher) C&O Freight Cars, 1937-1946 book put together by Carl Shaver, Karen Parker and myself. There are tons of pictures of them captured at Armco Ashland Steel Works with those negs now at the Boyd County Library in Ashland, KY.

Al Kresse

From: "Steam Era Frt Car Group"
To: "Steam Era Frt Car Group"
Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2014 4:16:11 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

Jim,

Many thanks---I just located an image in my C&O freight car book!

Brad Andonian

On Saturday, July 5, 2014 12:41 PM, "James E Kubanick jekuban@... [STMFC]" wrote:

Brad,

C&O had such cars. Overland imported brass models of these, but I'm not sure if they duplicate the KTM model. Photos of the C&O cars do exist but i do not have any.

Jim Kubanick

Morgantown WV

On Saturday, July 5, 2014 1:50 PM, "Brad Andonian cereshill@... [STMFC]" wrote:

Fellas,

I have a three bay panel sided hopper from KTM. Does a prototype exist? I would appreciate an image if so!

With thanks,

Brad Andonian

Seattle

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Re: Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

Rich Yoder
 

IN “O” Scale the panel side cars imported by US Hobbies and Max Gray were NYC and subsidiary RRs’.

Custom Brass imported C&O panel side cars.

Rich Yoder



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 3:42 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers








Brad,



C&O had such cars. Overland imported brass models of these, but I'm not sure if they duplicate the KTM model. Photos of the C&O cars do exist but i do not have any.



Jim Kubanick

Morgantown WV



On Saturday, July 5, 2014 1:50 PM, "Brad Andonian cereshill@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:





Fellas,



I have a three bay panel sided hopper from KTM. Does a prototype exist? I would appreciate an image if so!



With thanks,

Brad Andonian

Seattle












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Re: Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

Rich Yoder
 

All C&O Hoppers were black with the exception of 5 aluminum twin hoppers that were not painted.

Sincerely,

Rich Yoder



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 6:01 PM
To: STMFC@...; Al Kresse
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers








Dear Al,



Are these cars red or black please? seeking a post '45 color.



Thank you,

Brad Andonian



On Saturday, July 5, 2014 1:33 PM, "water.kresse@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:





We also did a C&O His Mag article on them a while back.



Photos of these C&O 17XXXX series 70-ton hopper cars will also show up in the C&OHS's soon to be published (ready for publisher) C&O Freight Cars, 1937-1946 book put together by Carl Shaver, Karen Parker and myself. There are tons of pictures of them captured at Armco Ashland Steel Works with those negs now at the Boyd County Library in Ashland, KY.



Al Kresse



From: "Steam Era Frt Car Group" <STMFC@...>
To: "Steam Era Frt Car Group" <STMFC@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2014 4:16:11 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers





Jim,



Many thanks---I just located an image in my C&O freight car book!



Brad Andonian





On Saturday, July 5, 2014 12:41 PM, "James E Kubanick jekuban@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:







Brad,



C&O had such cars. Overland imported brass models of these, but I'm not sure if they duplicate the KTM model. Photos of the C&O cars do exist but i do not have any.



Jim Kubanick

Morgantown WV



On Saturday, July 5, 2014 1:50 PM, "Brad Andonian cereshill@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:





Fellas,



I have a three bay panel sided hopper from KTM. Does a prototype exist? I would appreciate an image if so!



With thanks,

Brad Andonian

Seattle




















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Memory of Richard Hendrickson

David Turner
 

For those of us who came late to the prototype modeling fraternity, and don't have a complete library of all past publications, I (and probably many others) would jump at the chance to buy a compilation of all of Richard Hendrickson's many articles in the various magazines.

I understand that this would, of necessity, be a photocopy/scan type of publication in several volumes (perhaps similar to the "Train Shed Cyclopedia" series).

Tony Thompson mentioned that Richard had published more than 400 articles. I searched on the Kalmbach index of magazine articles and found 166 listed, some of which, but not all, can be viewed on the TrainLife website.

A compilation of his published work would represent a "Magnum Opus" that I would highly value.

Still staggered by the sense of loss,
David Turner
Keeping the S.P. & S. Ry. alive in Santa Rosa, California


Re: Upgrading AHM Helium Cars

Tony Thompson
 

John Barry wrote:

The cars also served NAS Moffet Field in Sunnyvale on the SP.  Depending on the routing, they could have been interchanged from ATSF after traversing Cajon to SP in LA and gone up the coast or in Oakland after transiting Tehachapi and the Valley Division.  I don't believe that ATSF would have short hauled itself and delivered the cars to SP in El Paso.

      It's a common misconception that the originating railroad got to choose routing, but not so. The shipper had, and very often used, the right to choose every detail of routing. Especially in this case, where the helium shipments were part of government ownership of the helium, which was predominantly used for defense and research purposes, you can be sure the helium traffic people made all those decision, not the Santa Fe, Rock Island, or anyone else.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: Empty/load sensor for braking

Dave Nelson
 

What I understand about the truck based empty / load device is that it was a single rod extending out to the trucks… the trucks were compressed the rod was pushed down and the brake system performed differently than if the rod was not pushed down.

 

As for the difference between empty and loaded, what I’m led to understand is it was rather easy for the brake systems to overdo on the ordinary application of brakes and cause the wheel to stop it’s rotation and slide over the rail.  The same air reduction as applied to a loaded car didn’t do that.  And so with an extra reservoir the empty / load valve effectively increased or decreased the brake force applied to the wheel… more for a loaded car, less for an empty.

 

One of the posters said this device was introduced after WWII so I suppose that’s a good enough answer to my question (when did these become common?) – as in I need not worry too much about it.

 

 

 

It does bring to mind a somewhat different question: To what cause were clasp brakes more effective than the ordinary brakes used on freight cars?  I know the B&LW put them on all of their hoppers… Rio Grande had them on their 46 foot GS gons.

 

Dave Nelson


Re: More Steamtown images via the erielack list

Charles Peck
 

My first quick look-through, I am struck by the amount of seemingly unpainted wood.
Even at this date, advertising was perhaps the economical way to get something
painted. Just like later on the Mail Pouch men and the See Rock City men would
make their marks on the countryside painting barns.
Chuck Peck


On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 6:16 PM, 'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

End view, WAB 71729 in 1918

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-07-05-14/C4716.jpg

 

Partial side view, oblique

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-07-05-14/C4718.jpg

 

Then click “Next Image” for a peek at the B end.  And again for another peek at the other side of the B end.

 

These pictures, to my mind, are a gold mine of detail for scenery.  More different styles of buildings, close to the track, unguarded crossings (probably the reason for the pictures, an injury or death claim), different fence types from brick with the iron pickets on top to the plain rough-sawn 2x12s across the alley.

 

And BTW, doesn’t that coupler in the last shot look for all the world like one of those early HO couplers, Monarch or something like that?  Pre-Kadee, even before the straight-pin pre-magnetic Kadee versions?

 

Schuyler



More Steamtown images via the erielack list

Schuyler Larrabee
 

End view, WAB 71729 in 1918

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-07-05-14/C4716.jpg

 

Partial side view, oblique

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-07-05-14/C4718.jpg

 

Then click “Next Image” for a peek at the B end.  And again for another peek at the other side of the B end.

 

These pictures, to my mind, are a gold mine of detail for scenery.  More different styles of buildings, close to the track, unguarded crossings (probably the reason for the pictures, an injury or death claim), different fence types from brick with the iron pickets on top to the plain rough-sawn 2x12s across the alley.

 

And BTW, doesn’t that coupler in the last shot look for all the world like one of those early HO couplers, Monarch or something like that?  Pre-Kadee, even before the straight-pin pre-magnetic Kadee versions?

 

Schuyler


Re: Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

Brad Andonian
 

Dear Al,

Are these cars red or black please?    seeking a post '45 color.

Thank you,
Brad Andonian


On Saturday, July 5, 2014 1:33 PM, "water.kresse@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
We also did a C&O His Mag article on them a while back.  
 
Photos of these C&O 17XXXX series 70-ton hopper cars will also show up in the C&OHS's soon to be published (ready for publisher)  C&O Freight Cars, 1937-1946 book put together by Carl Shaver, Karen Parker and myself.  There are tons of pictures of them captured at Armco Ashland Steel Works with those negs now at the Boyd County Library in Ashland, KY. 
 
Al Kresse

From: "Steam Era Frt Car Group"
To: "Steam Era Frt Car Group"
Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2014 4:16:11 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

 
Jim,

Many thanks---I just located an image in my C&O freight car book!

Brad Andonian


On Saturday, July 5, 2014 12:41 PM, "James E Kubanick jekuban@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Brad,

C&O had such cars. Overland imported brass models of these, but I'm not sure if they duplicate the KTM model. Photos of the C&O cars do exist but i do not have any.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV


On Saturday, July 5, 2014 1:50 PM, "Brad Andonian cereshill@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Fellas,

I have a three bay panel sided hopper from KTM.   Does a prototype exist?   I would appreciate an image if so!

With thanks,
Brad Andonian
Seattle








Re: Upgrading AHM Helium Cars

John Barry
 

Bob,

The cars also served NAS Moffet Field in Sunnyvale on the SP.  Depending on the routing, they could have been interchanged from ATSF after traversing Cajon to SP in LA and gone up the coast or in Oakland after transiting Tehachapi and the Valley Division.  I don't believe that ATSF would have short hauled itself and delivered the cars to SP in El Paso.

I too need these cars to support my 1944 ops and Blimps.  I have the requisite tanks, now I need to find the ore cars for the trucks
 
John Barry


ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights


707-490-9696


3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682


From: Robert Chaparro
To: SANTAFE@...
Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2014 1:06 PM
Subject: Upgrading AHM Helium Cars

For those of you who missed it, the August 2014 issue of MODEL RAILROADER features an article by Alain Kap on upgrading an HO scale AHM helium car.  The three-page article features a number of photos plus a parts list.
 
These are very unique cars and were certainly seen in Southern California being hauled by Santa Fe (and Southern Pacific).  Destinations included:
 
NASA/USAF, Vandenberg AFB, ATSF/SP
USN, NAS Tustin, CA (blimp base) during and after World War II
USAF, Rich, CA (Missile Test Center), ATSF
USAF, Muroc, CA (Edwards AFB), ATSF
 
I also have been gearing-up for such a project, having acquired five AHM cars over the past fifteen months plus photos of the prototype and information about the cars generally.
 
Alain upgraded the trucks to Athearn #90399 Hyatt 33" roller bearing trucks.  These currently are out-of-stock. I plan to use the heavy-duty trucks that came with the out-of-production Roundhouse large rectangular “Tight Bottom” ore car as these trucks are closer in appearance to the prototype.  These were in the Roundhouse series that numbered 1701 to at least 1713.  As with the AHM cars, I have acquired the necessary ore cars at swap meets.
 
To further aid your efforts Tony Thompson blog has three articles on modeling helium cars:
 
 
Lastly, the Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society has an article coming on helium cars in its WARBONNET publication so watch for that, also.
 
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
 



Re: Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

water.kresse@...
 

We also did a C&O His Mag article on them a while back.  
 
Photos of these C&O 17XXXX series 70-ton hopper cars will also show up in the C&OHS's soon to be published (ready for publisher)  C&O Freight Cars, 1937-1946 book put together by Carl Shaver, Karen Parker and myself.  There are tons of pictures of them captured at Armco Ashland Steel Works with those negs now at the Boyd County Library in Ashland, KY. 
 
Al Kresse


From: "Steam Era Frt Car Group" To: "Steam Era Frt Car Group"
Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2014 4:16:11 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

 

Jim,

Many thanks---I just located an image in my C&O freight car book!

Brad Andonian


On Saturday, July 5, 2014 12:41 PM, "James E Kubanick jekuban@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Brad,

C&O had such cars. Overland imported brass models of these, but I'm not sure if they duplicate the KTM model. Photos of the C&O cars do exist but i do not have any.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV


On Saturday, July 5, 2014 1:50 PM, "Brad Andonian cereshill@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Fellas,

I have a three bay panel sided hopper from KTM.   Does a prototype exist?   I would appreciate an image if so!

With thanks,
Brad Andonian
Seattle






Re: Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

Brad Andonian
 

Jim,

Many thanks---I just located an image in my C&O freight car book!

Brad Andonian


On Saturday, July 5, 2014 12:41 PM, "James E Kubanick jekuban@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Brad,

C&O had such cars. Overland imported brass models of these, but I'm not sure if they duplicate the KTM model. Photos of the C&O cars do exist but i do not have any.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV


On Saturday, July 5, 2014 1:50 PM, "Brad Andonian cereshill@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Fellas,

I have a three bay panel sided hopper from KTM.   Does a prototype exist?   I would appreciate an image if so!

With thanks,
Brad Andonian
Seattle





Re: Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

Benjamin Hom
 

Brad Andonian asked:
"I have a three bay panel sided hopper from KTM.   Does a prototype exist?   I would appreciate an image if so!"
An image of the model would be nice too.  We're not telepaths.

Ben Hom


Re: Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

James E Kubanick
 

Brad,

C&O had such cars. Overland imported brass models of these, but I'm not sure if they duplicate the KTM model. Photos of the C&O cars do exist but i do not have any.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV


On Saturday, July 5, 2014 1:50 PM, "Brad Andonian cereshill@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Fellas,

I have a three bay panel sided hopper from KTM.   Does a prototype exist?   I would appreciate an image if so!

With thanks,
Brad Andonian
Seattle



Re: Wabash Rebuilt DS Cars

Paul Bizier
 

Thanks to all for the answers on the running boards - I've got both of the Speedwitch proto modeling books, but they're packed somewhere in the 20+ boxes which are waiting for a future move to be unpacked.  I'll go ahead with the Plano running board and just put the wood R/B into the parts box...


Paul Bizier


Question On 3-bay Panel Sided Hoppers

Brad Andonian
 

Fellas,

I have a three bay panel sided hopper from KTM.   Does a prototype exist?   I would appreciate an image if so!

With thanks,
Brad Andonian
Seattle