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CGW Waybill

Charles Hostetler <cesicjh@...>
 

Good Evening All,

Andy Laurent and I have completed our second post in a series that examines features of prototype waybills. Those interested can find it at:

http://cnwmodeling.blogspot.com/2012/10/a-detailed-look-at-at-prototype-waybill.html

It deals with an SPS boxcar loaded with drywall from Fort Dodge, Ia. to several consignees in Wisconsin. I found this an interesting application of the "STOP THIS CAR" provision of the waybill form. I also thought that the use of an SPS car for this shipment (away from its home district) was interesting.

Regards,

Charles Hostetler


Re: Schedule for Prototype Rails in Cocoa Beach

Carl
 

STEWART--As you may have already gathered, the folks involved in Cocoa Beach are, to a person, kind, outgoing, helpful, and easy to get to know. You'll quickly feel among friends even if you don't know another soul when you initially walk in.

Bruce is right about the availability of good food. My wife makes it a point to come to this particular meet because the selection of restaurants is so great.

One more thing--sign up for the Shake-N-Take Clinic (I'm assuming it will again occur) as soon as you can. It's well worth the experience.

Looking forward to seeing you there. Best Wishes--CARL

Carl G. Camann
Atlanta, Georgia

--- In STMFC@..., "Stuart" <trainmail@...> wrote:

I'm thinking of attending for the first time ever and would welcome a general idea of the schedule for the purpose of making travel arrangements (e.g., do I have to travel from San Diego on Wednesday and return on Sunday?), probably through Orlando.

TIA for any assistance you can provide.

Best wishes,

Stuart A. Forsyth
forsyth@...


Re: GN Freight Car Painting, c. 1950

golden1014
 

Hi Stephan,

I don't knows what all that jibberish is either---something added by the Chinese as they review all our emails, of course.

Nonetheless I got my flat car painted today and thanks to you the colors are right. I'll get you a photo sometime soon. Thanks again and I hope you're doing great.

John

John Golden
OFallon, IL

--- In STMFC@..., "Staffan Ehnbom" <staffan.ehnbom@...> wrote:

I don't know what "I'm"stands for but the color of GN flat car and the 40' SS box car trucks (and the entire cars for that matter) around 1950 was mineral red.

Staffan Ehnbom

----- Original Message -----
From: John Golden
To: stmfc@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:27 PM
Subject: [STMFC] GN Freight Car Painting, c. 1950



GN Experts,

I'm finishing two HO scale GN models in November (Chad's flat car and the Sunshine SS box car) and would like to know please what color to paint the trucks. Were they black or Mineral?

Thanks,
John Golden
OFallon, IL









Re: PFE Reefer paint suggestions

al_brown03
 

I built this kit a couple of years ago, painted all sub-assemblies with off-the-shelf paints from spray cans, without masking. Orange was Model Master "Go Mango 1969-70" (different from plain "Go Mango"), red was Tamiya Red Brown, underframe was a Tamiya black (either "Black" or "Matt Black", I don't recall which). I've posted the results, pending approval, to an album entitled "PFE R-40-4".

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., "Ken" <kobrien1600@...> wrote:

I'm working on a Tichy PFE Reefer and I was wondering if there was an off the shelf paint for the sides and ends. Tichy's instructions call for blends of Daylight Orange & RG Yellow for the sides; BCR &Tuscan red for the ends, icing platforms, roofwalk(sic) and fascia.

The car will be run on a post WW2 layout, FWIW.

Ken O'Brien


Re: F&C GN Truss Rod Box Car 26178 Photo

Bill Schneider
 

You must know somebody...

I see that it’s blocking the main at Dale... Hope it moves before January. :>)

Bill Schneider
From: Mike Brock
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:27 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] F&C GN Truss Rod Box Car 26178 Photo


I have uploaded 3 photos of my recently completed F&C GN truss rod box car
in the album GN Truss Rod Box Car.

I have to say that I don't understand why some people's photos seem to take
such a long time to get approved. Approval for mine
was...well...instantaneous. Strange.

Now all I have to do is find a place for it on my layout. Ah ha! Buford.

Mike Brock





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F&C GN Truss Rod Box Car 26178 Photo

Mikebrock
 

I have uploaded 3 photos of my recently completed F&C GN truss rod box car in the album GN Truss Rod Box Car.

I have to say that I don't understand why some people's photos seem to take such a long time to get approved. Approval for mine was...well...instantaneous. Strange.

Now all I have to do is find a place for it on my layout. Ah ha! Buford.

Mike Brock


Re: Schedule for Prototype Rails in Cocoa Beach

Aley, Jeff A
 

Hi Stuart,

I live near Sacramento. I depart at about noon on Wednesday, arriving very late on Wednesday evening (~11PM). As Bruce pointed out, there are Op Sessions on Thursday, and Clinics start right after dinner on Thursday.
I use Sunday to recover (I'm the Clinic Chairman), and fly home on Monday.

Regards,

-Jeff


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Stuart
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:46 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Schedule for Prototype Rails in Cocoa Beach



I'm thinking of attending for the first time ever and would welcome a general idea of the schedule for the purpose of making travel arrangements (e.g., do I have to travel from San Diego on Wednesday and return on Sunday?), probably through Orlando.

TIA for any assistance you can provide.

Best wishes,

Stuart A. Forsyth
forsyth@...<mailto:forsyth%40usa.net>


Re: Atlas

John Degnan <Scaler164@...>
 

I'm having the same problem down here in south Georgia. My local hobby shop (not the one in Savannah) cannnot get any. And I hear the hobby shop in Savannah (which is reputed to be going out of business) also has none...


John Degnan
Scaler164@...
Scaler187@...

----- Original Message -----
From: Hunter, James R.
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 04:34 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Atlas


Anyboy know why Atlas code 83 is hard to find? Have they stopped making it?

Jim


Re: Atlas

Jeff Shultz <jeff@...>
 

I sent a quick message to Paul Graf about this and this was his response:

"We are in the midst of changing track suppliers, and most of our
track is in short supply. The first container of track has just left
here but it is all code 100. It is going to be a couple of months
before we get through all of our inventory list, but the supply is
starting to flow again. If someone needs a few pieces of something
they should contact our sales department."

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Hunter, James R. <jhunter@...> wrote:



Anyboy know why Atlas code 83 is hard to find? Have they stopped making it?

Jim
--
Jeff Shultz
Model Railroad Hobbyist Magazine


Re: Atlas

Dennis Williams
 

Problems with China.


Dennis Williams/Owner
http://www.resinbuilders4u.com/


________________________________
From: Brian carlson <prrk41361@...>
To: "STMFC@..." <STMFC@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Atlas


 

They haven't imported it in some time. Not sure why, maybe lack of factory time. Wish they still made it here.
Brian Carlson
On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:34 PM, "Hunter, James R." <mailto:jhunter%40iupui.edu> wrote:

Anyboy know why Atlas code 83 is hard to find? Have they stopped making it?

Jim


Re: Atlas

SUVCWORR@...
 

They announced a shipment last week - one container of all types of track, turnouts etc. The supply is very limited. Website is down due to Sandy.

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian carlson <prrk41361@...>
To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Tue, Oct 30, 2012 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Atlas


They haven't imported it in some time. Not sure why, maybe lack of factory time.
Wish they still made it here.
Brian Carlson
On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:34 PM, "Hunter, James R." <jhunter@...> wrote:

Anyboy know why Atlas code 83 is hard to find? Have they stopped making it?

Jim






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Re: Atlas

Brian Carlson
 

They haven't imported it in some time. Not sure why, maybe lack of factory time. Wish they still made it here.
Brian Carlson

On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:34 PM, "Hunter, James R." <jhunter@...> wrote:

Anyboy know why Atlas code 83 is hard to find? Have they stopped making it?

Jim


Atlas

naptownprr
 

Anyboy know why Atlas code 83 is hard to find? Have they stopped making it?

Jim


Re: GN Freight Car Painting, c. 1950

Bob McCarthy
 

Staffan,

     What color would the bodies, ends and roof have been of the GN 9000 series cars at that time that had survived?  When would they have been rebuilt and painted?  Also, what would be the color scheme for the 1937 steel roof and end with wooden side group before and after having plywood sides installed.

Thanks,

Bob McCarthy




________________________________
From: Staffan Ehnbom <staffan.ehnbom@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] GN Freight Car Painting, c. 1950


 
I don't know what "I'm"stands for but the color of GN flat car and the 40' SS box car trucks (and the entire cars for that matter) around 1950 was mineral red.

Staffan Ehnbom

----- Original Message -----
From: John Golden
To: stmfc@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:27 PM
Subject: [STMFC] GN Freight Car Painting, c. 1950

GN Experts,

I'm finishing two HO scale GN models in November (Chad's flat car and the Sunshine SS box car) and would like to know please what color to paint the trucks. Were they black or Mineral?

Thanks,
John Golden
OFallon, IL

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Re: 34' Hart gondola (was Train Miniature Hart Gondola)

Rio Grande Ltd <rgmodels@...>
 

you might want to check out item #3129-BG on RIOGRANDEMODELS.COM web site.

eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Earl Tuson <etuson@...>
To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Cc: lehighvalley <lehighvalley@...>
Sent: Tue, Oct 30, 2012 11:57 am
Subject: [STMFC] 34' Hart gondola (was Train Miniature Hart Gondola)





Tony Thompson wrote:

> As usual, John knows what he's talking about. However, it should be
> added that the Rodger-Hart design changed rapidly from the turn of
> the century, when the cars were 34' long with wood bodies and truss
> rod underframes, through the early 1920s. In 1902 they were 36' long
> with steel center sills and truss rods under the side sills. By
> 1906, they had become 40' cars with fishbelly steel side sills, and
> later in that same year, further improvement of the design introduced
> all steel body framing with wood sheathing and floors.
And it may be even more complex than he wrote. For example, the B&M purchased 100 34' IL Hart gondolas from
AC&F in 1907.

Joel Homes asked:

Does anyone have a plan or photo of the Hart 34' wood gondola?
I have attached a copy of the B&M class diagram for the 8900-8999 cars I mentioned above. Yahoo will strip it off,
but Joel should receive it. Anyone is welcome to request a copy off list.

Why scratch build? The Protowest resin model is a replica of the 34-foot car.
I checked the Protowest website and found an image of a seven panel DL&W car. The B&M 34' car had only 6 panels,
adding yet more variety to this category of car.

Earl Tuson

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Re: Naperville 2012

np328
 

--- In STMFC@..., Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
...I was very happy with the return to the familiar Naperville venue
...Sunshine's absence was a bummer but very understandable.
...Last but not least, It was really good to see Lloyd Kaiser, who has been absent for the last couple of years.

Agree with all of the above and also a prior comment about the vendors room being open from the start.

Steve Hile, exactly what I was looking for, Thanx.

Jim Dick - St. Paul

PS - Jim Singer, could you contact me off list?


34' Hart gondola (was Train Miniature Hart Gondola)

Earl Tuson
 

Tony Thompson wrote:

> As usual, John  knows what he's talking about.  However, it should be
> added that the Rodger-Hart design changed rapidly from the turn of
> the century, when the cars were 34' long with wood bodies and truss
> rod underframes, through the early 1920s.  In 1902 they were 36' long
> with steel center sills and truss rods under the side sills.  By
> 1906, they had become 40' cars with fishbelly steel side sills, and
> later in that same year, further improvement of the design introduced
> all steel body framing with wood sheathing and floors.
And it may be even more complex than he wrote. For example, the B&M purchased 100 34' IL Hart gondolas from
AC&F in 1907.

Joel Homes asked:

Does anyone have a plan or photo of the Hart 34' wood gondola?
I have attached a copy of the B&M class diagram for the 8900-8999 cars I mentioned above. Yahoo will strip it off,
but Joel should receive it. Anyone is welcome to request a copy off list.

Why scratch build? The Protowest resin model is a replica of the 34-foot car.
I checked the Protowest website and found an image of a seven panel DL&W car. The B&M 34' car had only 6 panels,
adding yet more variety to this category of car.

Earl Tuson


Re: Schedule for Prototype Rails in Cocoa Beach

Mikebrock
 

Bruce Smith, member of the original and continuing cast for Prototype Rails and perennial member of my op session got most of it right. He did not mention, however, a long standing tradition associated with the meet. I refer to the FREE cookies and coffee that are provided at 5 times during the meet. Some seem to believe this is a phantom service...those poor souls arriving at the prescribed location too late. Let me suggest that you stay close to me as the magic hour approaches.

I should also mention that we plan to have a Friends of the Freight Car lunch on Saturday.

If you don't have fun during Prototype Rails...you don't know fun.

Mike Brock
Prototype Rails Chairboss


Re: GN Freight Car Painting, c. 1950

Staffan Ehnbom <staffan.ehnbom@...>
 

I don't know what "I'm"stands for but the color of GN flat car and the 40' SS box car trucks (and the entire cars for that matter) around 1950 was mineral red.

Staffan Ehnbom

----- Original Message -----
From: John Golden
To: stmfc@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:27 PM
Subject: [STMFC] GN Freight Car Painting, c. 1950



GN Experts,

I'm finishing two HO scale GN models in November (Chad's flat car and the Sunshine SS box car) and would like to know please what color to paint the trucks. Were they black or Mineral?

Thanks,
John Golden
OFallon, IL


Re: GN Freight Car Painting, c. 1950

Mikebrock
 

John Golden writes:

"I'm finishing two HO scale GN models in November (Chad's flat car and the Sunshine SS box car) and would like to know please what color to paint the trucks. Were they black or Mineral?"

You might check out the message from Staffan Ehnbom on 10-22-2012 at 5:25AM which was a response to my inquiry regarding the color scheme for a GN truss rod box car as it would appear in 1954 painted with the side view of the goat.

I plan to put a photo of the car in the photo section later today.

Mike Brock