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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat
Gene <bierglaeser@...>
--- In STMFC@..., Bill Daniels <billinsf@...> wrote:
Beam is the width of the ship.Seems like an odd term for that dimension but OK. I was imagining something more along the lines of "keel." Thanks to all who responded. Once again, ask and ye shall receive. Gratefully, Gene one-nautical-term-wiser Green
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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat
So we're looking at a 52' car with a boat that is 20' wide and 78' long.
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It's an impressive photo and yes in "O" scale a car is available and a 1:48 scale boat kit is on the market. For most of us this would be a model to sit on a siding :) Rich Yoder
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of northbaylines@... Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:41 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Photo of PT on SP flat Yes they do and I've had one since 1965 or so, predating my interest in trains circa 68. Modeling this combo would be an excellent reuse of a poorly detailed heritage model (the PT) and a great fit with my current rail marine interests. The Tichy 40' flat might be a starting point for a dice & splice conversion but I'd like a straight kit build if it is available. John Barry --- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote: PT. I am not sure if they are still in production but they can be found. Louisianna circa 1942 of PT201 on flat car SP 79571. See the photo on my blog at: http://northbaylines.blogspot.com/2012/09/wartime-flat-car-loads-update_14.h tml#!/2012/09/wartime-flat-car-loads-update_14.html  ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat
Pieter Roos
It appears the Elcos were 80 ft, Higgins PTs where 78.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PT_boat Revell made a plastic Higgins PT in either 1/96 or 1/100 scale (references not clear), which might be usable. http://www.building-model-boats.com/pt-boat-model.html Pieter Roos Connecticut
--- In STMFC@..., "Bruce F. Smith" <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Re: Photo and negative collections
John C. La Rue, Jr. <MOFWCABOOSE@...>
I don't know for sure who is still buying negative collections these days, but I do know that I am not. The reason: no money.
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John C. La Rue, Jr. Bonita Springs, FL
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From: wlhoss <wlhoss@...> To: STMFC <STMFC@...> Sent: Sat, Sep 15, 2012 12:31 pm Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Photo and negative collections Out of curiosity, who's still buying negative collections these days. Bill Hoss [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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sp rotary snow plows
benjamin
I know this site is geared for freight cars but maybe someone knows where I can find plans and dimensions for SP Rotary Plows. The old Athearn is not right and the new Walther's is not right. It's frustrating looking at photos and not being able to build or kitbash a couple. I'd like to do one steam powered and one powered by an F7B snail.
Thanks for your help. Ben Heinley bheinley@... Denver, Co
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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat
50' in the photo, with lots of overlap!
Regards Bruce Smith Auburn, AL ________________________________________ From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...] on behalf of Jon Miller [atsf@...] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:06 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Photo of PT on SP flat On 9/18/2012 11:18 AM, Bill Daniels wrote: Beamis the width of the ship.Just caught some of this but did look up PT boats, seems they were at least 20' beam and 80' long. What flat were they on for the 80'? -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax--Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat
Jon Miller <atsf@...>
On 9/18/2012 11:18 AM, Bill Daniels wrote:
Beamis the width of the ship.Just caught some of this but did look up PT boats, seems they were at least 20' beam and 80' long. What flat were they on for the 80'? -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax--Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: ADMIN: Oddball Decals
Since my inquiry of Sep 16 asking if anyone had received a decal from Oddballs Decals within the last 3 monyths, I regret to inform the group that no one has indicated that they had received any. And, there are currently 5 members who indicate that they not only have not received odered decals but they have taken action against Oddballs Decals.
Mike Brock STMFC Owner
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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat
Bill Daniels <billinsf@...>
Beam is the width of the ship.
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Bill Daniels
On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:52 AM, "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:
For those of us not nautically inclined beam is what?
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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat
Charles Hostetler <cesicjh@...>
--- In STMFC@..., "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:
Hi Gene, It's the width of a ship or boat at its widest point. Regards, Charles Hostetler
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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat
John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
Overall width of the hull.
John Hagen From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:52 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Photo of PT on SP flat For those of us not nautically inclined beam is what? Gene Green
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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat
Gene,
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Beam of a vessel is equivalent to Extreme Width of a freight car, that is, the width at the widest part. Regards Bruce Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/ "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield." __ / \ __<+--+>________________\__/___ ________________________________ |- ______/ O O \_______ -| | __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ | | / 4999 PENNSYLVANIA 4999 \ | ||__||__||__||__||__||__||__||__|| |/_____________________________\|_|________________________________| | O--O \0 0 0 0/ O--O | 0-0-0 0-0-0
On Sep 18, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Gene wrote:
For those of us not nautically inclined beam is what? Gene Green
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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat
Gene <bierglaeser@...>
For those of us not nautically inclined beam is what?
Gene Green
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Re: Photo of PT on SP flat
Brian Termunde
9b. Re: Photo of PT on SP flat
Posted by: "Bruce F. Smith" smithbf@... smithbf36832 Date: Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:52 am ((PDT)) Brian, Folks, As I noted earlier, this isn't really a very good cargo for long-distance ovement by rails due to the beam of these PR boats. ******************************************************* Bruce, I did note your valid comment regarding the PT boats, I've long had an interest in these craft (and their British counterparts, the MTB's). However, your suggesting regarding the LCVP's is indeed a great idea. My uncle ran one of these during WWII (including the landings at Guadalcanal), also when I was stationed at NAVSTA Guam, we had several former landing craft converted for various harbor duties in Apra Harbor. Thanks for the suggestion! Take Care, Brian R. Termunde Midvale, UT "My Train of Thought left the station without me!"
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Re: Two Website of Possible Interest
Bill Daniels <billinsf@...>
Thanks, Greg.
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On Sep 17, 2012, at 8:54 PM, tgregmrtn@... wrote:
BILL,
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Re: Two Website of Possible Interest
Greg Martin
BILL,
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I got this from Ed's friend Rob. Here's a link: _http://umm-usa.com/onlinestore/product_info.php?products_id=35_ (http://umm-usa.com/onlinestore/product_info.php?products_id=35) Then if you want Twin parallel cut buy this it is great for extracting say a 4-inch section: _http://www.umm-usa.com/catalog/tools_JLCEXT003.html_ (http://www.umm-usa.com/catalog/tools_JLCEXT003.html) Greg Martin Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it. Norman Maclean
In a message dated 9/17/2012 6:52:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
billinsf@... writes: Hi Greg... Now you've got my interest piqued... but which version of this saw do you recommend? Bill Daniels San Francisco, CA ________________________________ From: "_tgregmrtn@... (mailto:tgregmrtn@...) " <_tgregmrtn@... (mailto:tgregmrtn@...) > To: _STMFC@... (mailto:STMFC@...) Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Two Website of Possible Interest Bill and all, UMM-USA makes a fabulous Razor saw that takes a bite less than .005". I learned of this earlier this year when visiting my brother with a project in mind and leaving my Xacto Saw at home here in Oregon. A good friend of his, a military modeler, said "you're not still using an XACTO razor saw are you?" OF course what else is there, and the one I have has about 80 teeth per inch... he said, " here borrow mine it is thinner than a business card and has 100+ teeth per inch." This tool cut through my Proto 2000 50-foot Dbl door boxcar at the top of the car side and at the roof line like butter. I had the roof off in less than twenty minutes with virtually no clean up. No drag while cutting just an even stroke and it is cutting. SAWEET! I am hooked. Now this might seem a bit commercial but I am in no way connected to these folks, but this is the slickest saw I have ever used. I plan to use it to cut down some LL door to correct them to create the correct door for the PRR X38 boxcar, actually several, who knows, this project just might show up in Cocoa Beach. Greg Martin -----Original Message----- From: lnbill <_fgexbill@... (mailto:fgexbill@...) To: STMFC <_STMFC@... (mailto:STMFC@...) > Sent: Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:15 pm Subject: [STMFC] Two Website of Possible Interest Here are two websites gleaned from the current Military Models in Review that may be of interest. The first is a company selling Rapid Prototype "After Market" parts: _http://click2detail.com/_ (http://click2detail.com/) The second is a site with tools, including a Mitre Box w/ more precision than I have usually seen: _http://www.umm-usa.com/_ (http://www.umm-usa.com/) Bill Welch [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Sou box car info needed
Clark Propst
Seems I had enough info already - looked right passed it - Gads!
ROADNAME NUMBER TYPE MANUFACTURER LADING Notes SOU 23125 B Branchline bags Vigro fertilizer 5/5/4 8' Yt door, Retangular panel roof, 4/4 improved D end, Univeral hb, Morton rb Clark Propst
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Re: Sou box car info needed
Clark Propst
Thank very much to all that replied. I don't have a Speedwitch mini-kit. Always has to be a catch doesn't there.
Clark Propst
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Re: GN box car photos
Clark Propst
Thanks Mike! Just joking of course...
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--- In STMFC@..., "Mike Brock" <brockm@...> wrote:
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Re: Sou box car info needed
Ed Hawkins
On Sep 17, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Allen Cain wrote:
The doors on the Southern boxcars represented by the Branchline kitsAllen, You are totally correct, and my previous reply wasn't correct. I knew something wasn't quite right when I posted my reply earlier today. For some reason I thought Southwest Scale Reproductions offered the earlier-version Youngstown door, but you're correct that it's offered only for 6' door openings. The link I provided was for 6' door openings, and the cars had 8' openings. My bad. For another option besides doors of cast urethane, recall that C&BT Shops came with Youngstown doors of the correct version for these SRR box cars. C&BT had them for 6', 7' and 8' door openings. Of course, they might be difficult to find. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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