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Re: Whats on the work bench.

Tim O'Connor
 

At 6/2/2012 06:00 PM Saturday, you wrote:
Bill,
It is 53'6" long over the deck and 10'4" wide. It has 19 pockets on each side. I am casting the pockets on with the body. The pockets are welded and angled at the bottom. On the sides, it has a distinctive 6" bar that runs along the bottom and has an alternating rivet pattern.
There is a couple pictures of 992036 on the RRPicture arcives in MoW.
Chad Boas
--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:

Chad, can you please fill us in on the Southern number series you are doing?

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "Chad" <chadboas@> wrote:

All,
I have added 2 photos in the flat car photos section of the flats I'm working on now. One is the MP 45' and the other is the Southern 53'6".
Thanks, Chad Boas


Re: SOU flat (was Whats on the work bench.)

Tim O'Connor
 

If anyone has a copy of the Mount Vernon advertisement page (possibly
from Railway Age) there is a builder photo of SOU 51344. Someone with
a good scanner and that page might be able to pull a really good scan
from that.

There is no bar visible in the builder photo, and I will send my scan
(not hi-res) to Chad to see what he thinks.

Tim O'Connor

Chad, Was the bar at the bottom edge of the Sou Ry flat car you are modeling 6" or was it 5"? My bet is for the latter. (I think it is 1x5"). Also the stake pockets, at least on the cars that I have photos of, appear to be pressed steel with the angle that was mentioned and riveted to the sides with 4 rivets, but this is hard to see with the shadows on the photos. Is this car one of the SOU 51101- 51600 series? FHP (Frank H. Peacock)


Re: LaSalle & Bureau County

al_brown03
 

In the era of this list (what is this Penn Central of which people speak?) ... the 1/43 ORER lists just two cars for this road, LS&BC 1001 and 1002, 40' boxcars. I've never seen a picture.

The 7/50 and 1/53 ORERs list the same two plus a dozen covered hoppers and 20 more boxcars: LS&BC 1100-1119. These were PS-1s with 6' Youngstown doors; Hawkins (RMJ 3/93 p 12) gives the built date as 8/1949 and the lot number as 5950. There's a photo of LS&BC 1103 in MRG 2/87, p 47, and RMJ 6/93 p 19.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., SC COOPER <sccooper@...> wrote:

I seem to think K/D did one-I'm sure I have one on the layout somewhere.
Steve

From: cjburns1957 <cjburns1957@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, 3 June 2012, 9:39
Subject: [STMFC] Re: LaSalle & Bureau County


 

Hello
I have a July 1972 RMC here with a piece about the LS&BC. The boxcars were ex Penn Central, and Northern Pacific cars. Most were 40' single door cars. There were also round roof cars ,and double door boxcars. The 1100 series had brown paint with the roadname spelled out. Other cars were rusty, and, or had patch jobs. Those had five digit road numbers, and initials only.
I hope this helps.
Charlie Burns
--- In STMFC@..., "appremo" <armprem2@> wrote:

Seeking information for the LaSalle & Bureau County Railroad Box Cars.Any and all information will be appreciated.Armand Premo



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Re: LaSalle & Bureau County

SC COOPER <sccooper@...>
 

I seem to think K/D did one-I'm sure I have one on the layout somewhere.
Steve

From: cjburns1957 <cjburns1957@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, 3 June 2012, 9:39
Subject: [STMFC] Re: LaSalle & Bureau County


 

Hello
I have a July 1972 RMC here with a piece about the LS&BC. The boxcars were ex Penn Central, and Northern Pacific cars. Most were 40' single door cars. There were also round roof cars ,and double door boxcars. The 1100 series had brown paint with the roadname spelled out. Other cars were rusty, and, or had patch jobs. Those had five digit road numbers, and initials only.
I hope this helps.
Charlie Burns
--- In STMFC@..., "appremo" <armprem2@...> wrote:

Seeking information for the LaSalle & Bureau County Railroad Box Cars.Any and all information will be appreciated.Armand Premo



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Re: LaSalle & Bureau County

Mr Charles burns
 

Hello
I have a July 1972 RMC here with a piece about the LS&BC. The boxcars were ex Penn Central, and Northern Pacific cars. Most were 40' single door cars. There were also round roof cars ,and double door boxcars. The 1100 series had brown paint with the roadname spelled out. Other cars were rusty, and, or had patch jobs. Those had five digit road numbers, and initials only.
I hope this helps.
Charlie Burns

--- In STMFC@..., "appremo" <armprem2@...> wrote:

Seeking information for the LaSalle & Bureau County Railroad Box Cars.Any and all information will be appreciated.Armand Premo


Re: Whats on the work bench.

John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
 

I use High Logic FontCreator. Sort of.



I actually draw the letters/numbers in Illustrator and then copy & paste
into FontCreator. Then I adjust the scale and letter spacing and I'm done.
Yes I should just create the stuff directly FontCreator but I've using
Illustrator for this over ten years now and just am reluctant (i.e.,
stubborn) to learn a different method at 69.



The cost of FontCreator has increased since I bought mine but then it was
$75 for the personal use license and $150 for the general publishing
license. I have to personal use license and it works just like any other
font. It installs right to the Windows Font folder and shows up in any
program that uses that folder. So it is available in Illustrator, Photoshop,
CorelDRAW, Publisher, Word etc. I just can't publish it to sell it to
others.



John Hagen



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Gary
Ray
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:48 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Whats on the work bench.





A 1998 version of Fontogopher that I purchased years ago very cheaply (less
than $25). Current price is $400. First scanned in images, then cleaned up
in Photoshop because they were drawn on black graph paper, created bit maps
and then to Fontogopher. First time I've tried doing this and I'm very
pleased with the progress.
Gary

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
Thomas Makofski
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:24 PM
To: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Whats on the work bench.

Gary, What program do you use to design your fonts?

Tom Makofski


Re: Oddballs decals

John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
 

Thanks Don,



You have basically proved that it is more dependent on the craftsman doing
the printing than the method. Each method has it's pro's and con's but
properly done, both can produce very nice product.



My work has been compared with that of other Alps printers and screen
printers. It has always been considered of the highest quality. This is not
a plug as I am currently not really looking for additional work (troubles
with my last printer causing limitations on what I can do and raising my
costs). I say this merely to advise buyers to not lump all Alps decals as
second in quality. My work has be said to be more opaque than many screen
printers, sharper images than many others including screen printers and for
the lack of the "dot matrix" pattern common to those Alps printers that use
dithered colors as opposed to spot colors. One set I produced for a few
buyers that was a direct replacement for one previously sold by an Alps
printer that had left the business, when viewed by a very knowledgeable
aficionado of that railroad claimed mine better after doing rapid
examination due to the use of spot colors instead of dithered colors.
Frankly, for me the most enjoyable part is the artwork. The printing was
always a bit of a PIA. But I need to find someone to do the printing. And
the hard part of that is I have always pretty much specialized in the short
run stuff which is too costly using screen or pas printing methods.



Again I must emphasize the importance of properly drawn, vector graphics
artwork with all colors separated. With such artwork and a good craftsman
doing the printing, both methods will yield a good product.



John Hagen



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Don
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 7:13 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Oddballs decals







--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> ,
timboconnor@... wrote:


Although I love having decals, I'm not sad to see the end of ALPS.
I've never been overly happy with the ALPS "dot matrix" application of
colors. Silk screening is still the best method and silk screen photo masks
can get down to at least 1/4" in HO scale.
I could not agree with you more, Tim, about what I view as a lack of quality
in ALPS printed decals and the far superior quality of silk screen printing.
All NERS decals had been printed by George Bishop, of SMP Industries, whom I
had known since 1971 and always found very fair to work with. Others may
feel differently but I considered George to be a friend and I miss him, even
to be able to chat with him on the telephone and sound each other out on
some thoughts or ideas. Before his print washer died, when he and Ron were
working together on the actual printing, you could not ask for a better
product. Some of his first efforts back in the 1970's were not the greatest
but George learned and he always tried to make things better. There are some
today who could learn from his example, myself included sometimes when too
much is attempted. When George, foolishly from my point of view as he and I
discussed more than once, went to Microscale to do his printing after the
screen washer died, what did he get? In my opinion an immediate reduction in
quality. The 5 x 8 1/2 decal sheets one received SMP decals on were the
actual size sheet that was printed. These were not cut from much larger
sheets after being printed as Microscale does. George's color registration
was the best I've seen and it greatly deteriorated when Microscale undertook
his printing. I have not been able to find anyone in recent years who can
match his quality at anything approaching a reasonable cost. One firm
contacted to reprint our single color Northeastern GPEX Milk Car Lessee set
quoted me a cost of over $12 per sheet in quantities of 500 for a set we
retailed at $8.95 before running out!!!!! So if anyone knows of a quality
and reasonably priced decal printer within the US, Canada or the UK I would
like to learn of such. But ALPS printers just don't cut the mustard for me
though I admit they are perhaps a little better than nothing.

Just my two bits worth, Don Valentine


Re: Whats on the work bench.

Gary Ray
 

A 1998 version of Fontogopher that I purchased years ago very cheaply (less
than $25). Current price is $400. First scanned in images, then cleaned up
in Photoshop because they were drawn on black graph paper, created bit maps
and then to Fontogopher. First time I've tried doing this and I'm very
pleased with the progress.
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Thomas Makofski
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:24 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Whats on the work bench.

Gary, What program do you use to design your fonts?

Tom Makofski


Re: Oddballs decals

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., timboconnor@... wrote:


Although I love having decals, I'm not sad to see the end of ALPS.
I've never been overly happy with the ALPS "dot matrix" application of colors. Silk screening is still the best method and silk screen photo masks can get down to at least 1/4" in HO scale.

I could not agree with you more, Tim, about what I view as a lack of quality in ALPS printed decals and the far superior quality of silk screen printing. All NERS decals had been printed by George Bishop, of SMP Industries, whom I had known since 1971 and always found very fair to work with. Others may feel differently but I considered George to be a friend and I miss him, even to be able to chat with him on the telephone and sound each other out on some thoughts or ideas. Before his print washer died, when he and Ron were working together on the actual printing, you could not ask for a better product. Some of his first efforts back in the 1970's were not the greatest but George learned and he always tried to make things better. There are some today who could learn from his example, myself included sometimes when too much is attempted. When George, foolishly from my point of view as he and I discussed more than once, went to Microscale to do his printing after the screen washer died, what did he get? In my opinion an immediate reduction in quality. The 5 x 8 1/2 decal sheets one received SMP decals on were the actual size sheet that was printed. These were not cut from much larger sheets after being printed as Microscale does. George's color registration was the best I've seen and it greatly deteriorated when Microscale undertook his printing. I have not been able to find anyone in recent years who can match his quality at anything approaching a reasonable cost. One firm contacted to reprint our single color Northeastern GPEX Milk Car Lessee set quoted me a cost of over $12 per sheet in quantities of 500 for a set we retailed at $8.95 before running out!!!!! So if anyone knows of a quality and reasonably priced decal printer within the US, Canada or the UK I would like to learn of such. But ALPS printers just don't cut the mustard for me though I admit they are perhaps a little better than nothing.

Just my two bits worth, Don Valentine


Re: Whats on the work bench.

Chad Boas
 

My print is alittle fuzzy but it probably is 5". The pockets are riveted with 3 on each side and then welded to the overhand ledger. It is a 51101 series. I still have to rivet the cars with those fine Archer decals.
Also forgot to mention that the 3rd flat will be the CB&Q FM14. There might be a 4th in the works. If I can find time to take a drive and go measure it and get photos.
Chad Boas

--- In STMFC@..., FRANK PEACOCK <frank3112@...> wrote:


Chad, Was the bar at the bottom edge of the Sou Ry flat car you are modeling 6" or was it 5"? My bet is for the latter. (I think it is 1x5"). Also the stake pockets, at least on the cars that I have photos of, appear to be pressed steel with the angle that was mentioned and riveted to the sides with 4 rivets, but this is hard to see with the shadows on the photos. Is this car one of the SOU 51101- 51600 series? FHP (Frank H. Peacock)

To: STMFC@...
From: chadboas@...
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:00:31 +0000
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Whats on the work bench.


























Bill,

It is 53'6" long over the deck and 10'4" wide. It has 19 pockets on each side. I am casting the pockets on with the body. The pockets are welded and angled at the bottom. On the sides, it has a distinctive 6" bar that runs along the bottom and has an alternating rivet pattern.

There is a couple pictures of 992036 on the RRPicture arcives in MoW.

Chad Boas

--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@> wrote:

Chad, can you please fill us in on the Southern number series you are doing?
Bill Welch
--- In STMFC@..., "Chad" <chadboas@> wrote:
All,
I have added 2 photos in the flat car photos section of the flats I'm working on now. One is the MP 45' and the other is the Southern 53'6".
Thanks, Chad Boas

















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Re: Whats on the work bench.

Thomas Makofski <tmak26@...>
 

Gary, What program do you use to design your fonts?

Tom Makofski

photo galleries
http://tmak.zenfolio.com/
newifree-mo
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newifreemo/?yguid=353416413


Re: Whats on the work bench.

Gary Ray
 

I'm working on making a set of Southern Pacific 1920 True Type fonts based
on SP drawing CF3596. I needed to make some decals and could not find any
accurate fonts to use in designing the decals.

Gary Ray


Re: Whats on the work bench.

FRANK PEACOCK
 

Chad, Was the bar at the bottom edge of the Sou Ry flat car you are modeling 6" or was it 5"? My bet is for the latter. (I think it is 1x5"). Also the stake pockets, at least on the cars that I have photos of, appear to be pressed steel with the angle that was mentioned and riveted to the sides with 4 rivets, but this is hard to see with the shadows on the photos. Is this car one of the SOU 51101- 51600 series? FHP (Frank H. Peacock)

To: STMFC@...
From: chadboas@...
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:00:31 +0000
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Whats on the work bench.


























Bill,

It is 53'6" long over the deck and 10'4" wide. It has 19 pockets on each side. I am casting the pockets on with the body. The pockets are welded and angled at the bottom. On the sides, it has a distinctive 6" bar that runs along the bottom and has an alternating rivet pattern.

There is a couple pictures of 992036 on the RRPicture arcives in MoW.

Chad Boas

--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:

Chad, can you please fill us in on the Southern number series you are doing?
Bill Welch
--- In STMFC@..., "Chad" <chadboas@> wrote:
All,
I have added 2 photos in the flat car photos section of the flats I'm working on now. One is the MP 45' and the other is the Southern 53'6".
Thanks, Chad Boas

















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Re: Whats on the work bench.

Chad Boas
 

Bill,
It is 53'6" long over the deck and 10'4" wide. It has 19 pockets on each side. I am casting the pockets on with the body. The pockets are welded and angled at the bottom. On the sides, it has a distinctive 6" bar that runs along the bottom and has an alternating rivet pattern.
There is a couple pictures of 992036 on the RRPicture arcives in MoW.
Chad Boas

--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:

Chad, can you please fill us in on the Southern number series you are doing?

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "Chad" <chadboas@> wrote:

All,
I have added 2 photos in the flat car photos section of the flats I'm working on now. One is the MP 45' and the other is the Southern 53'6".
Thanks, Chad Boas


Re: Whats on the work bench.

Bill Welch
 

Chad, can you please fill us in on the Southern number series you are doing?

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "Chad" <chadboas@...> wrote:

All,
I have added 2 photos in the flat car photos section of the flats I'm working on now. One is the MP 45' and the other is the Southern 53'6".
Thanks, Chad Boas


Re: Need help with Instructions.

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Rob:

In addition to the instructions which members on the list have led you to there is one of Richard Hendrickson's
excellent articles on building this car in the Fall 2009 issue of the Streamliner. This is the UPHS magazine.

Bill Pardie
On Jun 1, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Aley, Jeff A wrote:

Hi Harry,

Thanks for posting this. I had tried to find the instructions on the UPHS website, but was unable to. Bizarrely enough, if you go straight to the "Company Store" [in the pane on the left], you end up in a totally different place than if you use the method you describe. Looks like they're changing to a "new" version of the store, and the new version doesn't have the instructions.

Regards,

-Jeff

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of camaro_77_hm@...
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:24 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Need help with Instructions.

Rob the instructions are available from the UPHS site. At www.uphs.org<http://www.uphs.org>. Go to the announcements then to the s-40-6 and then at the bottom of the page there is a link to the store and it brings up the stock car page and you can open and download/print off the instructions. I have built 14 these kits(12 for my self and 2 others) and they are a nice flat kit.

Harry M Haythorn
UPHS #4043
NMRA #145379 00
NHRA #402327 Comp #H541
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Alan" <albyrno@...<mailto:albyrno%40yahoo.com>>
Sender: STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 17:38:11
To: <STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>>
Reply-To: STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Need help with Instructions.

I've experienced this problem of kits not coming with instructions before also.Often cars put out by these type places are a commercial brand with their lettering on them.Look on HOSEEKER website and see if you can find something simular/same,its worth a try.
Alan

--- In STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>, "roblmclear" <rob.mclear3@...<mailto:rob.mclear3@...>> wrote:

Hi to all

I have recently purchased here in Aussie a couple of UP stockcars S40-6 that were put out as a kit by the Union Pacific Historical Society trouble is there are no instructions in either kit. Can anyone help with a set or direct me to where I can download a set.

Regards
Rob McLear
Kingaroy Australia.
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need further info was Re: Whats on the work bench.

jerryglow2
 

Does anyone have pics or lettering guide for the Southern flatcar in Gothic lettering? Also when did they change from Roman? Please reply directly

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

--- In STMFC@..., "James F. Brewer" <jfbrewer@...> wrote:

I would second this request.

Jim Brewer

----- Original Message -----

From: "O Fenton Wells" <srrfan1401@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:12:33 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Whats on the work bench.

Gerry, please do the 1950's Southern scheme as well (for us old timers).
Fenton Wells


Re: Whats on the work bench.

James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
 

I would second this request.



Jim Brewer

----- Original Message -----


From: "O Fenton Wells" <srrfan1401@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:12:33 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Whats on the work bench.

Gerry, please do the 1950's Southern scheme as well (for us old timers).
Fenton Wells

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:21 PM, <jerryglow@...> wrote:

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I've got the artwork for the MP car done and am working on original and
later scheme for the Southern.

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/


--- In STMFC@..., "Chad" <chadboas@...> wrote:

All,
I have added 2 photos in the flat car photos section of the flats I'm
working on now. One is the MP 45' and the other is the Southern 53'6".
Thanks, Chad Boas
 


--
Fenton Wells
3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
919-499-5545
srrfan1401@...


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Re: Whats on the work bench.

O Fenton Wells
 

Gerry, please do the 1950's Southern scheme as well (for us old timers).
Fenton Wells

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:21 PM, <jerryglow@...> wrote:

**


I've got the artwork for the MP car done and am working on original and
later scheme for the Southern.

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/


--- In STMFC@..., "Chad" <chadboas@...> wrote:

All,
I have added 2 photos in the flat car photos section of the flats I'm
working on now. One is the MP 45' and the other is the Southern 53'6".
Thanks, Chad Boas



--
Fenton Wells
3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
919-499-5545
srrfan1401@...


Re: Whats on the work bench.

O Fenton Wells
 

Great Chad, I'm pumped. I will want at least 2 of the Southern cars and I
will get an eamil out to the Southern modelers Yahoo group.
Fenton


On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Chad <chadboas@...> wrote:

**


All,
I have added 2 photos in the flat car photos section of the flats I'm
working on now. One is the MP 45' and the other is the Southern 53'6".
Thanks, Chad Boas




--
Fenton Wells
3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
919-499-5545
srrfan1401@...


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