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Re: decals derailed

jerryglow2
 

I sure wish you had worded that differently or started a new thread. One could easily assume you were talking about me - a situation that can easily ruin one's (mine) reputation. I specifically posted to avoid that and to date, most have told me to just hold the order until ready. I'm currently not even depositing checks until I start getting material back from the printer.

BTW: we think the problems are isolated with cyan only so they're going to try to print work this week that does not require it.

Jerry Glow
The Villages FL
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

--- In STMFC@..., Barrybennetttoo@... wrote:

And also takes your money in full knowledge and then ignores emails for the
last 6 months. Even more irritating is that he tells you he has all your
decals in stock, then after receiving, in my case $68 in cash, mails to say
his printers are broken and that it will be several months before they are
repaired.

Barry Bennett


In a message dated 30/04/2012 21:14:29 GMT Daylight Time,
brennan8@... writes:




Jerry

Thank you for your timely heads-up!
I hope your print source is able to resolve this soon...

All
I've had great service from Jerry on several past orders...
and appreciate his ethical approach to this niche business.

This is in stark contrast to at least one other decal supplier...
who kept (keeps?) taking orders AFTER his own ALPS printer(s) failed,
hoping (unrealistically) to amass enough backorders to fund a new one.
<<grrrr>>

--------------------
Richard Brennan
<somewhere between Budapest and Shenzhen>
--------------------


Re: decals derailed

Barrybennetttoo@...
 

I am very grumpy, and have been warning off potential customers whenever
they appear on various lists. If he was here in the UK he would have appeared
in the small claims court by now and earned a criminal record.

But shush, no more as I hear the jingle jangle of keys.

Barry

In a message dated 30/04/2012 21:29:13 GMT Daylight Time, behni@...
writes:




I'd be (ahem) Grumpy if someone did that to me.

Thanks!
--

Brian P. Ehni

From: <_Barrybennetttoo@... (mailto:Barrybennetttoo@...) >
Reply-To: STMFC List <_STMFC@...
(mailto:STMFC@...) >
Date: Monday, April 30, 2012 3:24 PM
To: STMFC List <_STMFC@... (mailto:STMFC@...) >
Subject: Re: [STMFC] decals derailed

And also takes your money in full knowledge and then ignores emails for the
last 6 months. Even more irritating is that he tells you he has all your
decals in stock, then after receiving, in my case $68 in cash, mails to say
his printers are broken and that it will be several months before they are
repaired.

Barry Bennett


In a message dated 30/04/2012 21:14:29 GMT Daylight Time,
_brennan8@... (mailto:brennan8@...)
<mailto:brennan8%40earthlink.net> writes:

Jerry

Thank you for your timely heads-up!
I hope your print source is able to resolve this soon...

All
I've had great service from Jerry on several past orders...
and appreciate his ethical approach to this niche business.

This is in stark contrast to at least one other decal supplier...
who kept (keeps?) taking orders AFTER his own ALPS printer(s) failed,
hoping (unrealistically) to amass enough backorders to fund a new one.
<<grrrr>>

--------------------
Richard Brennan
<somewhere between Budapest and Shenzhen>
--------------------

At 05:54 AM 4/27/2012, Gerald Glow wrote:
I regret to inform you that effective immediately, I'm suspending all
decal sales. The mechanical issues with the printer at the print house
that does my printing continues to worsen making it impossible to
guarantee delivery in a timely manner. I will post here when the
situation is solved and sales resume.

I will do my best to fill any current open orders with decals on hand,
and refunds partial or full issued.

My web site will also contain notification when the situation improves
so check it occasionally.

--
Jerry Glow
The Villages FL
__http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/__
(http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/_)
(_http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/_
(http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/) )

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Re: decals derailed

Brian Ehni <behni@...>
 

I'd be (ahem) Grumpy if someone did that to me.


Thanks!
--

Brian P. Ehni

From: <Barrybennetttoo@...>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Date: Monday, April 30, 2012 3:24 PM
To: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] decals derailed






And also takes your money in full knowledge and then ignores emails for the
last 6 months. Even more irritating is that he tells you he has all your
decals in stock, then after receiving, in my case $68 in cash, mails to say
his printers are broken and that it will be several months before they are
repaired.

Barry Bennett

In a message dated 30/04/2012 21:14:29 GMT Daylight Time,
brennan8@... <mailto:brennan8%40earthlink.net> writes:

Jerry

Thank you for your timely heads-up!
I hope your print source is able to resolve this soon...

All
I've had great service from Jerry on several past orders...
and appreciate his ethical approach to this niche business.

This is in stark contrast to at least one other decal supplier...
who kept (keeps?) taking orders AFTER his own ALPS printer(s) failed,
hoping (unrealistically) to amass enough backorders to fund a new one.
<<grrrr>>

--------------------
Richard Brennan
<somewhere between Budapest and Shenzhen>
--------------------

At 05:54 AM 4/27/2012, Gerald Glow wrote:
I regret to inform you that effective immediately, I'm suspending all
decal sales. The mechanical issues with the printer at the print house
that does my printing continues to worsen making it impossible to
guarantee delivery in a timely manner. I will post here when the
situation is solved and sales resume.

I will do my best to fill any current open orders with decals on hand,
and refunds partial or full issued.

My web site will also contain notification when the situation improves
so check it occasionally.

--
Jerry Glow
The Villages FL
_http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/_
(http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/)

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Re: decals derailed

Barrybennetttoo@...
 

And also takes your money in full knowledge and then ignores emails for the
last 6 months. Even more irritating is that he tells you he has all your
decals in stock, then after receiving, in my case $68 in cash, mails to say
his printers are broken and that it will be several months before they are
repaired.

Barry Bennett

In a message dated 30/04/2012 21:14:29 GMT Daylight Time,
brennan8@... writes:




Jerry

Thank you for your timely heads-up!
I hope your print source is able to resolve this soon...

All
I've had great service from Jerry on several past orders...
and appreciate his ethical approach to this niche business.

This is in stark contrast to at least one other decal supplier...
who kept (keeps?) taking orders AFTER his own ALPS printer(s) failed,
hoping (unrealistically) to amass enough backorders to fund a new one.
<<grrrr>>

--------------------
Richard Brennan
<somewhere between Budapest and Shenzhen>
--------------------

At 05:54 AM 4/27/2012, Gerald Glow wrote:
I regret to inform you that effective immediately, I'm suspending all
decal sales. The mechanical issues with the printer at the print house
that does my printing continues to worsen making it impossible to
guarantee delivery in a timely manner. I will post here when the
situation is solved and sales resume.

I will do my best to fill any current open orders with decals on hand,
and refunds partial or full issued.

My web site will also contain notification when the situation improves
so check it occasionally.

--
Jerry Glow
The Villages FL
_http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/_
(http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/)






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Re: Erie boxcars

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@..., jdcellarmod@... wrote:
My questions are for the following modified 1923 ARA type cars built in 1928 & 1930. They were series 75000-75499 & 75500-75999.
The large diamond was first used around 1947.

75000-75499 was featured several times in "Mainline Modeler" & is identical to a C&O box car formerly available from Steam Shack & now F&C. Body of those cars is close to PRR X29s with inverse drednaught ends.

Ed Mines


Re: decals derailed

Richard Brennan <brennan8@...>
 

Jerry

Thank you for your timely heads-up!
I hope your print source is able to resolve this soon...

All
I've had great service from Jerry on several past orders...
and appreciate his ethical approach to this niche business.

This is in stark contrast to at least one other decal supplier...
who kept (keeps?) taking orders AFTER his own ALPS printer(s) failed,
hoping (unrealistically) to amass enough backorders to fund a new one.
<<grrrr>>

--------------------
Richard Brennan
<somewhere between Budapest and Shenzhen>
--------------------

At 05:54 AM 4/27/2012, Gerald Glow wrote:
I regret to inform you that effective immediately, I'm suspending all
decal sales. The mechanical issues with the printer at the print house
that does my printing continues to worsen making it impossible to
guarantee delivery in a timely manner. I will post here when the
situation is solved and sales resume.

I will do my best to fill any current open orders with decals on hand,
and refunds partial or full issued.

My web site will also contain notification when the situation improves
so check it occasionally.

--
Jerry Glow
The Villages FL
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/


Re: NYC freight car scene

john.allyn@...
 

I have a bad feeling that that I had some of those rations in the '60's.


John B. Allyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@...>
To: stmfc@...
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:11:45 AM
Subject: [STMFC] NYC freight car scene







The "Well", US Signal Corps Army Base Terminal, Port of Embarkation. Ration cases
from crate cars are hoisted to warehouse bins for storage, ca. 1945-1946. (Courtesy
NYC Municipal Archives)

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/nycm042712/s_n46_mac00392.jpg

From this web site:
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/04/historic-photos-from-the-nyc-municipal-archives/100286/

Tim O'Connor


Re: decals derailed

messagefrombirdland
 

Jerry,
Hope you are able to get back up and running! The decals you have done for me in the past have been great.
John

--- In STMFC@..., Gerald Glow <jerryglow@...> wrote:

I regret to inform you that effective immediately, I'm suspending all
decal sales. The mechanical issues with the printer at the print house
that does my printing continues to worsen making it impossible to
guarantee delivery in a timely manner. I will post here when the
situation is solved and sales resume.

I will do my best to fill any current open orders with decals on hand,
and refunds partial or full issued.

My web site will also contain notification when the situation improves
so check it occasionally.

--
Jerry Glow
The Villages FL
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/





Re: Western Maryland flat cars

Ed Hawkins
 

On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Jeff wrote:

Looking for information on flat car series 2551-2560. I am not sure
if the following series, 2561-2585 are the same.
Jeff,
The WM 2551-2560 flat cars were built 9-10/1939 by Greenville Steel Car
Co. (Office Order 282). These cars used GSC general arrangement drawing
no. 15438 and brake arrg't 15419.

WM 2561-2585 flat cars were built 4-5/1942 and used the same general
arrg't & brake arrg't drawings. Thus, the 1942 cars from GSC Office
Order 334 were the same as those built in 1939.

A summary of information about these cars:
50-ton capy.
50'-0" length over end sills
9'-2" width over floor
8'-2 1/2" width over side sills
3'-9 11/16" height to top of floor (measured from rail)
10" [ center sill (Duryea u/f)
30" fish-belly side sill
7 cross-members (per car)
2 Z-section stringers (per car)
AB-1012 brakes
Double truss trucks
Originally cast iron wheels
2 3/4" floor (oak specified for O.O. 334)

Note: The "7 cross-members" likely includes bolsters, crossbearers, and
crossties. I don't know with any degree of certainty what color the
cars were originally painted. By the early 1950s repainted cars would
have received oxide red. During the 1950s to early 1960s many (if not
all) remaining cars were equipped with bulkheads and renumbered.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: NYC freight car scene

james murrie
 

Yes Tim those are some of the photos I was referencing. The mortuary cars had been moved via Bush Terminal RR switcher to their car floats for the trip to PRR's Greenville NJ yard and then on to Chicago.
mandatory STMFC content: note freight cars on adjacent tracks and floats.
Building B was 8 stories high, 980ft x 300ft, 2 indoor tracks, 50 car capacity, and 66ft wide platforms with moveable bridges and an overhead crane. Massive even by big city warehouse standards. The Army terminal even had 4 piers of its own.

At the risk of the Sheriff's rath: I'm seeking consists showing the Army 89000 series cars in trains from Oct 15, 1947-Dec 1951 for use in a clinic at the Sheriff's favorite Prototype Modeling Meet.
They ran either singly attached to regular passenger trains or in trains of up to 15 cars between Oakland or Brooklyn/Greenville to 15 distribution centers across the US. The servicemen were treated as passengers(deceased) NOT express/freight back then.

My apologies for going off topic.....I'll return you now to your favorite type of bearings.
Jim Murrie

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



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At 4/30/2012 11:32 AM Monday, you wrote:
That appears to be the inside of building "B" at the Brroklyn Army Terminal. If I rememeber correctly it could hold 50 cars.
If you Google the Life Magazine November 14(?), 1947 issue for an article entitled "The Sergeant Comes Home" you can see the same scene except it is filled with USA 89000 series Mortuary Cars loading the remains of the deceased WW2 troops being returned from Europe.
Jim Murrie

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@> wrote:


The "Well", US Signal Corps Army Base Terminal, Port of Embarkation. Ration cases
from crate cars are hoisted to warehouse bins for storage, ca. 1945-1946. (Courtesy
NYC Municipal Archives)

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/nycm042712/s_n46_mac00392.jpg

From this web site:
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/04/historic-photos-from-the-nyc-municipal-archives/100286/

Tim O'Connor


Re: NYC freight car scene

bspinelli <bspinelli@...>
 

As a teenager I used to visit the LIRR tower "college" in brooklyn on the Bayridge branch where usually at nite the "mortuary" trains would be heading west pulled by New Haven double cab units. bernie spinelliOriginal Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: NYC freight car scene





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At 4/30/2012 11:32 AM Monday, you wrote:
>That appears to be the inside of building "B" at the Brroklyn Army Terminal. If I rememeber correctly it could hold 50 cars.
> If you Google the Life Magazine November 14(?), 1947 issue for an article entitled "The Sergeant Comes Home" you can see the same scene except it is filled with USA 89000 series Mortuary Cars loading the remains of the deceased WW2 troops being returned from Europe.
>Jim Murrie
>
>--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The "Well", US Signal Corps Army Base Terminal, Port of Embarkation. Ration cases
>> from crate cars are hoisted to warehouse bins for storage, ca. 1945-1946. (Courtesy
>> NYC Municipal Archives)
>>
>> http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/nycm042712/s_n46_mac00392.jpg
>>
>> From this web site:
>> http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/04/historic-photos-from-the-nyc-municipal-archives/100286/
>>
>> Tim O'Connor


Re: NYC freight car scene

Tim O'Connor
 

At 4/30/2012 11:32 AM Monday, you wrote:
That appears to be the inside of building "B" at the Brroklyn Army Terminal. If I rememeber correctly it could hold 50 cars.
If you Google the Life Magazine November 14(?), 1947 issue for an article entitled "The Sergeant Comes Home" you can see the same scene except it is filled with USA 89000 series Mortuary Cars loading the remains of the deceased WW2 troops being returned from Europe.
Jim Murrie

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


The "Well", US Signal Corps Army Base Terminal, Port of Embarkation. Ration cases
from crate cars are hoisted to warehouse bins for storage, ca. 1945-1946. (Courtesy
NYC Municipal Archives)

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/nycm042712/s_n46_mac00392.jpg

From this web site:
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/04/historic-photos-from-the-nyc-municipal-archives/100286/

Tim O'Connor


Re: NYC freight car scene

james murrie
 

That appears to be the inside of building "B" at the Brroklyn Army Terminal. If I rememeber correctly it could hold 50 cars.
If you Google the Life Magazine November 14(?), 1947 issue for an article entitled "The Sergeant Comes Home" you can see the same scene except it is filled with USA 89000 series Mortuary Cars loading the remains of the deceased WW2 troops being returned from Europe.
Jim Murrie

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


The "Well", US Signal Corps Army Base Terminal, Port of Embarkation. Ration cases
from crate cars are hoisted to warehouse bins for storage, ca. 1945-1946. (Courtesy
NYC Municipal Archives)

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/nycm042712/s_n46_mac00392.jpg

From this web site:
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/04/historic-photos-from-the-nyc-municipal-archives/100286/

Tim O'Connor


Re: Rapido reefers?

Clark Propst
 

I look at car routings as if the tracks were a tree. The farther out on the libs you get the more there needs to be a reason why a car is there.

If you’re modeling the trunk, you might see many meat packers cars. As you climb up the libs the fewer packer names there’d be. Finally reaching a twig there would be a packing house, wholesale house, or connection to one or the other.

So, it depends on where you model as to what meat reefers you should have.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

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Re: contact info for Howard Lloyd, RR modeler

Larry Sexton
 

Can anyone provide contact information for Howard Lloyd of Los Gatos,
California? He recently had an article published in the June 2012 issue of
Model Railroader that showed a couple of gondolas being loaded from or
unloaded into a freighter. Thanks in advance for any help provided.

Larry Sexton


UP Freight Train Speeds

Mikebrock
 

Andy Harman writes:

"I've always thought it slightly odd that no other road built a 4-8-8-4. I
suppose had steam ruled for another decade, someone would have built
one. Which may have caused it to have another name. Or maybe PRR would
have built an 8-cylinder duplex 4-4-4-4-4-4 and called it a Pittsburger."

I am preparing a study...using my 1949 Fraley Freight Conductor's Book...on UP frt train speeds between Rawlins and Laramie, WY. The terrain is fairly level...Laramie is 385 ft higher than Rawlins, the ruling grade is 0.82% in both directions and none of these grades are very long. All trains but one were pulled by Big Boys and 3900 class Challengers. The WB Big Boy powered trains averaged 38.63 mph, pulled an average of 3900 tons and produced an average of 150670 ton miles/hour. EB trains pulled by Big Boys averaged 34 mph, pulled an average of 4581 tons and produced an average of 157657 ton miles/hour. The WB Big Boy trains were 28% heavier than WB 3900 class trains and operated 0.02% slower, producing 25% greater ton miles/hour. EB trains were similar, Big Boy powered trains producing 18% more ton miles/hour running .04% slower. I have to wonder why UP didn't order more than 25 Big Boys. Big Boy was designed to defeat the grade in the Wahsatch Mtns from Ogden,UT, to Wahsatch, UT, 65 miles long, a ruling grade of 1.14%, one section of which is 15 miles long, 25 miles total. It then had to be able to run at track speed another 111 miles to Green River. This was not an easy task and, as usual with steam locomotives operating on such a variety of grades, some parts of the operation suffered. During the 1943 tests, Big Boy 4016 pulled 3883 tons up the grade but was running at only 13 mph on the 1.14% grade. A few years later, after reworking the engine's front end drafting system, Big Boys improved their output and did UP then settle for faster speeds at the original designed tonnage rating of 3600? Of course not. The tonnage rating increased to 4450 and the cspeed no doubt stayed the same.

For another RR to need a Big Boy would require that RR to also have to contend with both long grades and long, more level stretches....not to mention longer turn tables etc. One RR that immediately comes to mind is Santa Fe. However, they had unfavorable experiences with articulated locomotives long before the "modern", super power era AND they were aimed squarely at the diesel for a variety of reasons, not the least of which was the water problem in the Southwest. Note that Big Boy arrived in 1941 [ by which time the diesel freight engine had been proven ], was a coal burner and, while UP did experiment with one as an oil burner, its appetite for oil was deemed too great and it was converted back to coal.

I will note that 13 out of the 14 Big Boy powered trains and 9 out of 14 3900 Challenger powered trains listed in the Fraley book exceeded the performance of the one train in the book pulled by 3 F-3 diesels...

Mike Brock


NYC freight car scene

Tim O'Connor
 

The "Well", US Signal Corps Army Base Terminal, Port of Embarkation. Ration cases
from crate cars are hoisted to warehouse bins for storage, ca. 1945-1946. (Courtesy
NYC Municipal Archives)

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/nycm042712/s_n46_mac00392.jpg

From this web site:
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/04/historic-photos-from-the-nyc-municipal-archives/100286/

Tim O'Connor


Re: Truck bearings: Solid vs. RB

Jeff Coleman
 

Having been around the railroad as a kid then working for the N&W as a brakeman and carman and still work in the industry I've always heard the term friction bearing used along with solid or plain bearing when referring to wheel journals.
For what it's worth the current 2012 Field Manual of the A.A.R Interchange Rules, Rule 90 - Cars and/or Car Parts Prohibited in Interchange. B. Car Parts, 4. Journal Bearings and Components, a. Friction (plain)journal bearings.

Jeff Coleman

--- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Dave Evans wrote:
I do think "Solid" bearing is out - unless referring to an actual
bearing block that lacks any oil flow control holes.
This may be one area where standardization of terms may not be
viable (sorry Richard), and beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
I agree that there may not be a clear usage we can call
"standard," but particularly in reading _Railway Age_ (and I have read
a lot of their pieces in the 1930 to 1960 era, to understand trucks
more fully), I can assure you that the terms "solid bearing" and
"plain bearing" are BOTH frequent, and are used in ways which appear
to be interchangeable. Whether this accords with your perspective as a
mechanical engineer, 60 or 70 years after the time cited, does not
seem to me relevant to the terminology which those on this list should
prefer.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Roller bearing trucks, non roller bearing trucks, chain link drives

Andy Harman
 

At 06:53 PM 4/29/2012 -0400, you wrote:
Alas, imagine my dilemma...do I call a Big Boy a chain link drive engine,
one with some roller bearings, one with McGill bearings or...maybe just a
Big Boy?
I've always thought it slightly odd that no other road built a 4-8-8-4. I suppose had steam ruled for another decade, someone would have built one. Which may have caused it to have another name. Or maybe PRR would have built an 8-cylinder duplex 4-4-4-4-4-4 and called it a Pittsburger.

Andy


Roller bearing trucks, non roller bearing trucks, chain link drives

Mikebrock
 

Hmmm. Well...I think I now know enough that I am probably going to be safe by referring to those trucks with roller bearings as...well...roller bearing equipped trucks and those without roller bearings as..well...non roller bearing trucks.

OTOH, I forsee great difficulty in the future when I prepare to describe the type of bearings used on UP Big Boys. It is true that these engines had roller bearings associated closely with all tender and locomotive wheels [ notice how carefull I am now ], but they did not have roller bearings on the engine's rods [ gasp! ] instead using McGill needle bearings. To add to the problem, the engines suffered failures in the front engine's lubricator actuating rod, replacing it with a chain link drive. Regretfully, a small number of obscure narrow gauge locomotives used chain link drives to turn the drivers. My friend, the late Lou Ullian, actually had a model of one. Alas, imagine my dilemma...do I call a Big Boy a chain link drive engine, one with some roller bearings, one with McGill bearings or...maybe just a Big Boy?

Mike Brock...preparing to lose sleep tonight over this issue