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Re: Boxcar and Covered Hopper Roof Removal

jerryglow2
 

For boxcars, you might try removing the doors - usually a little easier although installing weight will be a little trickier.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., "Allen Cain" <allencain@...> wrote:

I have been buying RTR boxcars and covered hoppers for the early 1950s time period from Red Caboose, Branchline, Intermountain and Atlas and would like to add weight to meet the NMRA standards. Would appreciate advice on how to remove the roofs to get to the inside to apply the correct weight.

Hopefully this question is okay on this list as I do model the time period covered.

Thanks,

Allen Cain


Re: Fox Valley (and ExactRail) B&O Wagontop

rwitt_2000
 

Andrew,

I just checked the Spring Mills Depot web site and they don't imply
their special run from Fox Valley is sold out. You can check with them.

http://www.springmillsdepot.com/M53_status.htm

Also there is another run from Fox Valley due first quarter next year.
The B&OHS will have a special run of unique numbers so keep checking
that site as more details become available. http://borhs.org/

For an Exactrail, I would try to get a kit as I believe the door is a
separate part.

Regards,

Bob Witt

Andrew wrote:

Hi,

Like John Degnan, I model 1957. I have seen photos of my
modeling area (eastern Ontario) that indicate B&O M-53
boxcars were an occasional visitor--though not as common
as B&O open hoppers with soft coal for industrial customers.

Photos I've seen of M-53 boxcars in my area and time period
all have the Youngstown doors, not the Tatum doors.

I missed out on the Fox Valley run of M-53s earlier this year
but am interested in possibly getting one of the ExactRail
models. I notice ExactRail isn't offering a version with the
Youngstown doors.

Any guesses on the likelihood of ExactRail doing a future
run of these cars with Youngstown doors and later period
lettering schemes? Alternately, what would be a good
aftermarket Youngstown door to retrofit onto one of the
upcoming run of ExactRail models?

Regards,
Andrew

--- In STMFC@..., "rwitt_2000" rwitt_2000@ wrote:

Tim,

I forgot to add that I observed a M-53, ~1960, in a long line of bad
ordered B&O box cars in Caseyville, Illinois. It still had Tatum
doors
one, which was off its tracks was lying on the floor of the car. I
believe it was the first time I saw a XLT door. As you suggest, it
is
possible that some M-53s made it to the late 1950s still with their
Tatum doors.

Regards,

Bob Witt

Tim O'Connor wrote:


Thanks Bob. Since my modeling -begins- with 1955 I'll be waiting
for
the cars with replacement doors... but maybe an XLT will slip in
there.


I have 6 photos and/or Xeroxes of photos of M-53 and 1 M-53A all
still
with their Tatum "XLT" doors. Most are from the Anderson, Barkan
and
King Collection. The re-weigh dates range from 12-45 to 3-55. The
paint
schemes range from the early "13 Great States" to the late "13
Great
States" as described in the Barkan document. The re-weigh dates
from
the
1950s include 1950, 1951, 1952 (2), and 1953.

The last is a shop photo at Mt. Clare of a M-53 wearing the brand
new
"Billboard scheme". It was common for the B&O to do samples at
their
"mother shop", Mt. Clare in Baltimore, before changes were
released
system wide.

Based upon photos its appears the doors were replaced beginning
in
the
mid-1950s.

Bob Witt


Re: Decal water wet?

jerryglow2
 

Didn't mean it to sound like a criticism but I'll admit to trying to settle for a less than idea surface at times and had problems with decals. There's so many variables sometimes it's hard to pin down a cause other than just bad luck.

JErry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

No, the surface is fine. What works for me may not be what works for you.
And I've been painting and decaling models for >35 years.



Schuyler



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
jerryglow@...
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:20 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Decal water wet?





Sounds like your trying to apply the over a dull or not slick enough
surface. In ten years as a full time custom painter, I never faced this
situation and I applied a LOT of decals.

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Schuyler
Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@> wrote:

For larger decals I've not bothered with wetting the water. But for little
lettering I have done this with a brushfull or two of Kodak Photo-flo. A
brushfull does enough for a saucer of water, maybe a half cup. There does
not appear to be any effect on the decals themselves, nor is there any
"salting" after the water dries. I find it helpful when trying to marshal
something into just the . . . . right . . . . place.



Distilled water, of course.



Schuyler



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Of
dennyanspach
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 4:21 PM
To: Era Freight Car List Steam
Subject: [STMFC] Decal water wet?





To reduce surface tension, how many of you use any form of "wet" water for
decaling; and if so, just what methods do you use to wet the water? I have
long been tempted to go this route, but have been deterred by ignorance of
just how successful it is, or would be, and- whether or not there would be
some permanent visible effect on the decals.

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento

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Re: TNO box car question

Clark Propst
 

Thanks Guys. The renumbering is why my 59 ORER numbers didn't match.

I didn't see the kit on Ted's website, so I'll start looking for an IM car....good luck to me....
Clark Propst


Re: Decal water wet?

dennyanspach <danspach@...>
 

A lot of interesting and critical replies:

My question arose from a recent experience with some relatively ancient, but otherwise still very fine Champ decals whose decal paper simply would not "wet" in any kind of timely fashion, forcing me to eventually "push" the decal off- hazarding the decal in the process (the paper was still almost dry underneath the film). Also, increasingly, I am placing my decal water in very shallow jar lids, etc. with the water only about 1/8"-3/16" deep. In this circumstance, of course the effects of surface tension are closer at hand. I use the shallow pan/dish so that tiny decals do not sink out of sight when I am futilely chasing them around the surface (surface tension effect), and there is much less water through which I must futilely fish around to at last find the little @#$%^&* (if I find it at all) when they sink.

I have always used tap water and never, ever had residue problems, but using distilled water would also also seem a no-brainer (is there an expected difference in surface tension between distilled water -no minerals-, and tap water -varying amounts and kinds of minerals?.

I like the PhotoFlo idea. I would expect one bottle to last both me, my children, and my grandchildren at the rate I would use it, however.

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento


Official list of Shake N Take 2012

Greg Martin
 

Folks here is the official list as of just about #PM PST:

Primary List:
1. Rich Hanke
2. Rick Devlin
3. Armand Premo
4. Denny Anspach
5. John Cantlay
6. Jerry Glow
7. Roger Hinman
8. Schuyler Larabee
9. John Greedy
10. Al Brown
11. Larry Sexton
12. Richard Berry
13. Craig Zeni
14. Charles Hosteler
15. Mike Brock
Alternate List for Handouts:

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean


Re: 2012 Shake N Take

Greg Martin
 

Schuyler,

You're in. Thanks for the commitment to post the 2012 Shake N Take. I
will fill you in on the details off line.

Greg

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean

In a message dated 11/27/2011 2:22:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
schuyler.larrabee@... writes:




Greg,

Of COURSE I'll be "willing" to post the information about the 2012 S'n'T on
the Yahoo list web page.

Schuyler

From: _STMFC@... (mailto:STMFC@...)
[mailto:_STMFC@... (mailto:STMFC@...) ] On Behalf Of
_tgregmrtn@... (mailto:tgregmrtn@...)
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:26 PM
To: _STMFC@... (mailto:STMFC@...)
Subject: [STMFC] 2012 Shake N Take

Hey Yuze Gize,

Following with Tradition we always announce the Shake N Take Sign UP List
for Thanksgiving weekend and although it is a bit later this year here we
go.

This year's project we have returned to the boxcar, and the subject I have
picked is the Southern Pacific B-50-12A. One of my personal favorite
subjects following WW II was the rebuilt boxcar whereby, in this case, the
Southern Pacific has taken at least 650 USRA Single Sheathed Boxcars out
of
service to have the car "repaired" as SP put it, according to our own Tony
Thompson. AS far as I know, and I am certainly not an SP expert, this was
the
only 40-foot single door boxcar in general service with an inside height
of
10'-6". Rebuilt in 1949 through 1950 the car has a 10-panel side, diagonal
panel roof, a uniquely rebuilt underframe, and a shop built 5/4/5/3 YSD
corrugated end.

To date the Shake N Take has grown to a tremendous size streaming from the
original intent when I started. The DT&I gondola had a sign up sheet of
forty-three pre-registered members and I believe we gave out fifty kits.
Only
those that are willing to produce a finished kit need apply.; however you
are welcome to sit in and if that is your intent let me know so I can make

sure that Jeff gives a room large enough.

This year we are going back to a smaller group. There will be room for 24
pre-registered and 6 "at the door" slots to fill that is all. There will
be
hand outs limited to 50. I am hopeful that Schuyler will be willing to
post the data at the SHAKE N TAKE Yahoo group following the CB 2012. This
should make the whole process more manageable.

I will be keeping tabs ~first come, first serve~ during the day and post
some of the sign ups later today PST.

Good Luck,
Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean

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Re: 2012 Shake N Take

Greg Martin
 

I never forget you and Denny you are both automatic additions. You're in.

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean

In a message dated 11/27/2011 1:31:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
armprem2@... writes:




Greg ,Sign me up.Armand Premo
----- Original Message -----
From: _tgregmrtn@... (mailto:tgregmrtn@...)
To: _STMFC@... (mailto:STMFC@...)
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:25 PM
Subject: [STMFC] 2012 Shake N Take

Hey Yuze Gize,

Following with Tradition we always announce the Shake N Take Sign UP List
for Thanksgiving weekend and although it is a bit later this year here we
go.

This year's project we have returned to the boxcar, and the subject I have
picked is the Southern Pacific B-50-12A. One of my personal favorite
subjects following WW II was the rebuilt boxcar whereby, in this case, the
Southern Pacific has taken at least 650 USRA Single Sheathed Boxcars out
of
service to have the car "repaired" as SP put it, according to our own Tony
Thompson. AS far as I know, and I am certainly not an SP expert, this was
the
only 40-foot single door boxcar in general service with an inside height
of
10'-6". Rebuilt in 1949 through 1950 the car has a 10-panel side, diagonal
panel roof, a uniquely rebuilt underframe, and a shop built 5/4/5/3 YSD
corrugated end.

To date the Shake N Take has grown to a tremendous size streaming from the
original intent when I started. The DT&I gondola had a sign up sheet of
forty-three pre-registered members and I believe we gave out fifty kits.
Only
those that are willing to produce a finished kit need apply.; however you
are welcome to sit in and if that is your intent let me know so I can make
sure that Jeff gives a room large enough.

This year we are going back to a smaller group. There will be room for 24
pre-registered and 6 "at the door" slots to fill that is all. There will
be
hand outs limited to 50. I am hopeful that Schuyler will be willing to
post the data at the SHAKE N TAKE Yahoo group following the CB 2012. This
should make the whole process more manageable.

I will be keeping tabs ~first come, first serve~ during the day and post
some of the sign ups later today PST.

Good Luck,
Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean

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Re: TNO box car question

 

Tony, The kit KC101 is for actually a B-50-25. The only thing you need to do is change the doors and cobble up a 6 from the extra numbers and data. The end is correct in Ted's kit.
 
Rich Christie


________________________________
From: Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] TNO box car question


 
Clark Propst wrote:
I found TNO 57138 in some railroad documentation. I looked up the
number series in my 59 ORER CD, then went to the SP box car list on
the "Steam freight cars" website. Nothing matches as for as number
series go!
Can anyone tell me if the IM 12 panel model would work for TNO
57138? IM shows a car from the ORER number series on their website.
Are there any decals available?
Ted Culotta makes decals and a kit for a "better" version of
Class B-50-26. But the IM car will match well enough for most
purposes. Disclaimer: I have built Ted's kit and it IS better. But not
hugely so.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history




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Re: 2012 Shake N Take

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Greg,



Of COURSE I'll be "willing" to post the information about the 2012 S'n'T on
the Yahoo list web page.



Schuyler



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
tgregmrtn@...
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:26 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] 2012 Shake N Take





Hey Yuze Gize,

Following with Tradition we always announce the Shake N Take Sign UP List
for Thanksgiving weekend and although it is a bit later this year here we
go.

This year's project we have returned to the boxcar, and the subject I have
picked is the Southern Pacific B-50-12A. One of my personal favorite
subjects following WW II was the rebuilt boxcar whereby, in this case, the
Southern Pacific has taken at least 650 USRA Single Sheathed Boxcars out of
service to have the car "repaired" as SP put it, according to our own Tony
Thompson. AS far as I know, and I am certainly not an SP expert, this was
the
only 40-foot single door boxcar in general service with an inside height of
10'-6". Rebuilt in 1949 through 1950 the car has a 10-panel side, diagonal
panel roof, a uniquely rebuilt underframe, and a shop built 5/4/5/3 YSD
corrugated end.

To date the Shake N Take has grown to a tremendous size streaming from the
original intent when I started. The DT&I gondola had a sign up sheet of
forty-three pre-registered members and I believe we gave out fifty kits.
Only
those that are willing to produce a finished kit need apply.; however you
are welcome to sit in and if that is your intent let me know so I can make
sure that Jeff gives a room large enough.

This year we are going back to a smaller group. There will be room for 24
pre-registered and 6 "at the door" slots to fill that is all. There will be
hand outs limited to 50. I am hopeful that Schuyler will be willing to
post the data at the SHAKE N TAKE Yahoo group following the CB 2012. This
should make the whole process more manageable.

I will be keeping tabs ~first come, first serve~ during the day and post
some of the sign ups later today PST.

Good Luck,
Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean










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Re: 2012 Shake N Take

Armand Premo
 

Greg ,Sign me up.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: tgregmrtn@...
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:25 PM
Subject: [STMFC] 2012 Shake N Take



Hey Yuze Gize,

Following with Tradition we always announce the Shake N Take Sign UP List
for Thanksgiving weekend and although it is a bit later this year here we
go.

This year's project we have returned to the boxcar, and the subject I have
picked is the Southern Pacific B-50-12A. One of my personal favorite
subjects following WW II was the rebuilt boxcar whereby, in this case, the
Southern Pacific has taken at least 650 USRA Single Sheathed Boxcars out of
service to have the car "repaired" as SP put it, according to our own Tony
Thompson. AS far as I know, and I am certainly not an SP expert, this was the
only 40-foot single door boxcar in general service with an inside height of
10'-6". Rebuilt in 1949 through 1950 the car has a 10-panel side, diagonal
panel roof, a uniquely rebuilt underframe, and a shop built 5/4/5/3 YSD
corrugated end.

To date the Shake N Take has grown to a tremendous size streaming from the
original intent when I started. The DT&I gondola had a sign up sheet of
forty-three pre-registered members and I believe we gave out fifty kits. Only
those that are willing to produce a finished kit need apply.; however you
are welcome to sit in and if that is your intent let me know so I can make
sure that Jeff gives a room large enough.

This year we are going back to a smaller group. There will be room for 24
pre-registered and 6 "at the door" slots to fill that is all. There will be
hand outs limited to 50. I am hopeful that Schuyler will be willing to
post the data at the SHAKE N TAKE Yahoo group following the CB 2012. This
should make the whole process more manageable.

I will be keeping tabs ~first come, first serve~ during the day and post
some of the sign ups later today PST.

Good Luck,
Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean


Re: Decal water wet?

Andy Sperandeo
 

I'm with John Hagen on this: I use distilled water, no wetting agent, and generally have no white deposits to clean up.

I also use the "float-off method that Champ Decals used to recommend. For most decals other than MicroScale's, I place the dry decal on the surface of the water and wait for the paper to drop to the bottom and leave the decal floating. Champ's instructions said this allowed the decal adhesive to dissolve, so that it can't form any residue on the model.

So long,

Andy


Boxcar and Covered Hopper Roof Removal

Allen Cain <allencain@...>
 

I have been buying RTR boxcars and covered hoppers for the early 1950s time period from Red Caboose, Branchline, Intermountain and Atlas and would like to add weight to meet the NMRA standards. Would appreciate advice on how to remove the roofs to get to the inside to apply the correct weight.

Hopefully this question is okay on this list as I do model the time period covered.

Thanks,

Allen Cain


Re: 2012 Shake N Take

NHJJ4@...
 

SWEET !!

Cant go but will help you when I am home !!

Jim Evans

In a message dated 11/27/2011 11:26:12 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
tgregmrtn@... writes:




Hey Yuze Gize,

Following with Tradition we always announce the Shake N Take Sign UP List
for Thanksgiving weekend and although it is a bit later this year here we
go.

This year's project we have returned to the boxcar, and the subject I have
picked is the Southern Pacific B-50-12A. One of my personal favorite
subjects following WW II was the rebuilt boxcar whereby, in this case, the
Southern Pacific has taken at least 650 USRA Single Sheathed Boxcars out
of
service to have the car "repaired" as SP put it, according to our own Tony
Thompson. AS far as I know, and I am certainly not an SP expert, this was
the
only 40-foot single door boxcar in general service with an inside height
of
10'-6". Rebuilt in 1949 through 1950 the car has a 10-panel side, diagonal
panel roof, a uniquely rebuilt underframe, and a shop built 5/4/5/3 YSD
corrugated end.

To date the Shake N Take has grown to a tremendous size streaming from the
original intent when I started. The DT&I gondola had a sign up sheet of
forty-three pre-registered members and I believe we gave out fifty kits.
Only
those that are willing to produce a finished kit need apply.; however you
are welcome to sit in and if that is your intent let me know so I can make
sure that Jeff gives a room large enough.

This year we are going back to a smaller group. There will be room for 24
pre-registered and 6 "at the door" slots to fill that is all. There will
be
hand outs limited to 50. I am hopeful that Schuyler will be willing to
post the data at the SHAKE N TAKE Yahoo group following the CB 2012. This
should make the whole process more manageable.

I will be keeping tabs ~first come, first serve~ during the day and post
some of the sign ups later today PST.

Good Luck,
Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean

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Re: Fox Valley (and ExactRail) B&O Wagontop

Andrew Jeanes
 

Hi,

Like John Degnan, I model 1957. I have seen photos of my
modeling area (eastern Ontario) that indicate B&O M-53
boxcars were an occasional visitor--though not as common
as B&O open hoppers with soft coal for industrial customers.

Photos I've seen of M-53 boxcars in my area and time period
all have the Youngstown doors, not the Tatum doors.

I missed out on the Fox Valley run of M-53s earlier this year
but am interested in possibly getting one of the ExactRail
models. I notice ExactRail isn't offering a version with the
Youngstown doors.

Any guesses on the likelihood of ExactRail doing a future
run of these cars with Youngstown doors and later period
lettering schemes? Alternately, what would be a good
aftermarket Youngstown door to retrofit onto one of the
upcoming run of ExactRail models?

Regards,
Andrew

--- In STMFC@..., "rwitt_2000" <rwitt_2000@...> wrote:

Tim,

I forgot to add that I observed a M-53, ~1960, in a long line of bad
ordered B&O box cars in Caseyville, Illinois. It still had Tatum doors
one, which was off its tracks was lying on the floor of the car. I
believe it was the first time I saw a XLT door. As you suggest, it is
possible that some M-53s made it to the late 1950s still with their
Tatum doors.

Regards,

Bob Witt

Tim O'Connor wrote:


Thanks Bob. Since my modeling -begins- with 1955 I'll be waiting for
the cars with replacement doors... but maybe an XLT will slip in
there.


I have 6 photos and/or Xeroxes of photos of M-53 and 1 M-53A all
still
with their Tatum "XLT" doors. Most are from the Anderson, Barkan and
King Collection. The re-weigh dates range from 12-45 to 3-55. The
paint
schemes range from the early "13 Great States" to the late "13 Great
States" as described in the Barkan document. The re-weigh dates from
the
1950s include 1950, 1951, 1952 (2), and 1953.

The last is a shop photo at Mt. Clare of a M-53 wearing the brand new
"Billboard scheme". It was common for the B&O to do samples at their
"mother shop", Mt. Clare in Baltimore, before changes were released
system wide.

Based upon photos its appears the doors were replaced beginning in
the
mid-1950s.

Bob Witt


Re: 1890's ORER

proto48er
 

Steve -

I have a February, 1897 ORER if that will help.

A.T. Kott

--- In STMFC@..., "Steve and Barb Hile" <shile@...> wrote:

I am looking for the Rock Island pages from a mid 1890's ORER. Does anyone
have a copy that they could share?



Thanks in advance.



Steve Hile



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2012 Shake N Take

Greg Martin
 

Hey Yuze Gize,

Following with Tradition we always announce the Shake N Take Sign UP List
for Thanksgiving weekend and although it is a bit later this year here we
go.

This year's project we have returned to the boxcar, and the subject I have
picked is the Southern Pacific B-50-12A. One of my personal favorite
subjects following WW II was the rebuilt boxcar whereby, in this case, the
Southern Pacific has taken at least 650 USRA Single Sheathed Boxcars out of
service to have the car "repaired" as SP put it, according to our own Tony
Thompson. AS far as I know, and I am certainly not an SP expert, this was the
only 40-foot single door boxcar in general service with an inside height of
10'-6". Rebuilt in 1949 through 1950 the car has a 10-panel side, diagonal
panel roof, a uniquely rebuilt underframe, and a shop built 5/4/5/3 YSD
corrugated end.

To date the Shake N Take has grown to a tremendous size streaming from the
original intent when I started. The DT&I gondola had a sign up sheet of
forty-three pre-registered members and I believe we gave out fifty kits. Only
those that are willing to produce a finished kit need apply.; however you
are welcome to sit in and if that is your intent let me know so I can make
sure that Jeff gives a room large enough.

This year we are going back to a smaller group. There will be room for 24
pre-registered and 6 "at the door" slots to fill that is all. There will be
hand outs limited to 50. I am hopeful that Schuyler will be willing to
post the data at the SHAKE N TAKE Yahoo group following the CB 2012. This
should make the whole process more manageable.

I will be keeping tabs ~first come, first serve~ during the day and post
some of the sign ups later today PST.

Good Luck,
Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean


Re: TNO box car question

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Clark Propst wrote:
I found TNO 57138 in some railroad documentation. I looked up the number series in my 59 ORER CD, then went to the SP box car list on the "Steam freight cars" website. Nothing matches as for as number series go!
Can anyone tell me if the IM 12 panel model would work for TNO 57138? IM shows a car from the ORER number series on their website. Are there any decals available?
Ted Culotta makes decals and a kit for a "better" version of Class B-50-26. But the IM car will match well enough for most purposes. Disclaimer: I have built Ted's kit and it IS better. But not hugely so.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Decal water wet?

Schuyler Larrabee
 

No, the surface is fine. What works for me may not be what works for you.
And I've been painting and decaling models for >35 years.



Schuyler



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jerryglow@...
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:20 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Decal water wet?





Sounds like your trying to apply the over a dull or not slick enough
surface. In ten years as a full time custom painter, I never faced this
situation and I applied a LOT of decals.

Jerry Glow
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/

--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Schuyler
Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

For larger decals I've not bothered with wetting the water. But for little
lettering I have done this with a brushfull or two of Kodak Photo-flo. A
brushfull does enough for a saucer of water, maybe a half cup. There does
not appear to be any effect on the decals themselves, nor is there any
"salting" after the water dries. I find it helpful when trying to marshal
something into just the . . . . right . . . . place.



Distilled water, of course.



Schuyler



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Of
dennyanspach
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 4:21 PM
To: Era Freight Car List Steam
Subject: [STMFC] Decal water wet?





To reduce surface tension, how many of you use any form of "wet" water for
decaling; and if so, just what methods do you use to wet the water? I have
long been tempted to go this route, but have been deterred by ignorance of
just how successful it is, or would be, and- whether or not there would be
some permanent visible effect on the decals.

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento










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Re: Car Builders Cyclopedias

Larry Kline
 

I just uploaded a compilation of ebay prices for Car Builders Cyclopedias sold from 2007 to 2009. Th file is in the files section. The file name is "CBCyc ebay prices.pdf."

Note that there is a wide range of prices. If you are patient you can get a good price on ebay, The file I uploaded will give you an idea of the price range for various editions.

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA

90841 - 90860 of 195468