Re: Kit with Pratt truss sides
Bob,
Um, that's not what was said! What was said was that you swap the right and left parts of ONE SIDE, with respect to the door! I thought Andy made that clear in his first post and I did so in my reply as well.
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2022 5:20 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io> Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Kit with Pratt truss sides
Andy: I don't see it, but if you say so, okay. The sides of a flat kit are identical, and not in any way labeled left or right, but I'm no engineer. Anyway, I think Lester's going to use the '23 ARA, and that's how we got started on this.
Thanks, Bob.
On Sun, Feb 6, 2022, 16:51 Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
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Converting Howe into Pratt truss- Was "Kit with Pratt truss sides"
Andy Carlson
You seem to be thinking I meant swapping the two sides, which as you state are already identical. Reading what I said was "...(S)wap of the LEFT of door side with the Right of door side...." Requires some cutting and glueing Don Aust (I hope I am remembering his name correctly) did just this method in converting an early 1990s composite wood drop bottom gondola model to make (I think) a more accurate model of an NP gondola. This was printed in a Mainline Modeler. Articles of this type were common in MM, unlike the active online model zine which issue after issue is filled with forgetable content. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
On Sunday, February 6, 2022, 03:20:41 PM PST, Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...> wrote:
Andy: I don't see it, but if you say so, okay. The sides of a flat kit are identical, and not in any way labeled left or right, but I'm no engineer. Anyway, I think Lester's going to use the '23 ARA, and that's how we got started on this. Thanks, Bob. On Sun, Feb 6, 2022, 16:51 Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
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Re: Kit with Pratt truss sides
Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...>
Andy: I don't see it, but if you say so, okay. The sides of a flat kit are identical, and not in any way labeled left or right, but I'm no engineer. Anyway, I think Lester's going to use the '23 ARA, and that's how we got started on this. Thanks, Bob. On Sun, Feb 6, 2022, 16:51 Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
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Re: 6,000 Gal. Tank Car Circa 1906
earlyrail
Tony, I agree it is not a bright red. but redder then typical box car red. Howard Garner |
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Intermountain undeckits
Andy Carlson
Intermountain went through a period where the company was still casting parts and shipping them to China for assembly and packaging. The 1958 cu ft covered hopper was an all-China produced car. Intermountain explained their slow response in getting me the 100s of undec kits ordered was the changing over to Chinese increasingly doing 100% of production. So, Intermountain explained to me, Parts for kits needed to be ordered before the time the RTR project was activated. Frank stated that one or more of the toy makers in China involved with the project(s) balked at the low-margin work to get these parts shipped to Colorado. Intermountain ran out of their card board IMRC kit boxes, so for awhile those boxes were replaced with un-colored gloss white boxes. That did not last too long, as the Chinese relented to supply boxed, ready to sell kits in-house. The first kit I got from Intermountain in this new arrangement had an undec 8000 gallon type 27 tank car boxed in a RTR widowed box. That was a huge disapointment for me as up to this point the strong IMRC kit boxes were easily wrapped by me with kraft mailing paper. Now the expense and time to find a light and suitable box made a $4 markup item less attractive for me to offer. This did not last long as after that the long list of back ordered kits grew exponentially fueled by zero kits being shipped after that. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA |
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Re: Sunshine PRR X37
Gary McMills
very nice car you built there. Gary McMills On 2022-02-06 09:02, Paul Doggett via groups.io wrote:
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Re: DL&W Enterprise Twin Hopper
#83300-83799
Here are the two previous flyers. As I recall they were mostly railroad related patents. Lots of patents.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer
Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2022 2:31 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] DL&W Enterprise Twin Hopper #83300-83799
I didn’t get an announcement either, and I was on the mailing list for the print versions of RP CYC. Since this is DVD 3, what’s on DVD 1 and 2, and are all three still available?
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
I received a come-on for this DVD in mid December, but it apparently wasn’t listed to the STMFC list.
Pat’s flyer is attached regarding contents. There are a number of interesting things on it.
Steve
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
What DVD is this, Steve? I haven’t seen a notice about it.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
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Kit with Pratt truss sides
Andy Carlson
Robert, think again. Swapping sides changes the relative drop of the diagonals, converting the Howe trusses from compression into Pratt tension-the salient differences between the Pratt and Howe trusses.. No need for flipping sides upside down. -Andy
On Sunday, February 6, 2022, 10:21:04 AM PST, Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...> wrote:
Andy -- sorry, but no, it won't. You would have to turn the sides upside down to do that. At which point, you'd have the side sills at the eaves, and so forth. Bob. On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 12:16 Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
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Intermountain/Centralia Car Shops ATSF Caboose Kit Request
Daniel Kohlberg
I am looking for an Intermountain/Centralia Car Shops CCS1199 “ATSF Early Steel Caboose Undecorated” kit.
Anyone have one (or two) they want to part with? I am looking for new/unbuilt kits. This is for some Alton/GM&O caboose builds that I hope to start on the 2022 workbench.
If you have one or two you wish to part with, please email me at the address below with price.
Thanks everyone, Dan Kohlberg Moro, IL USA
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Re: CN Slabside Hopper
spsalso
Here's a link to the True Line hopper info:
https://sites.google.com/a/truelinetrains.ca/tlt/freight-cars/slab-side-hoppers Note that you can click on "freight", in the upper left, to check out their other cars. Ed Edward Sutorik |
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Re: DL&W Enterprise Twin Hopper
#83300-83799
Nelson Moyer
I didn’t get an announcement either, and I was on the mailing list for the print versions of RP CYC. Since this is DVD 3, what’s on DVD 1 and 2, and are all three still available?
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2022 2:22 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] DL&W Enterprise Twin Hopper #83300-83799
I received a come-on for this DVD in mid December, but it apparently wasn’t listed to the STMFC list.
Pat’s flyer is attached regarding contents. There are a number of interesting things on it.
Steve
From:
main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
What DVD is this, Steve? I haven’t seen a notice about it.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
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Re: DL&W Enterprise Twin Hopper
#83300-83799
I received a come-on for this DVD in mid December, but it apparently wasn’t listed to the STMFC list.
Pat’s flyer is attached regarding contents. There are a number of interesting things on it.
Steve
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2022 1:14 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] DL&W Enterprise Twin Hopper #83300-83799
What DVD is this, Steve? I haven’t seen a notice about it.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
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Re: 6,000 Gal. Tank Car Circa 1906
Tony Thompson
The old “D&H Caboose Red” is certainly not a bright red. Instead, it is a rich chestnut kind of boxcar red, and happens to closely match the color SP used for freight cars before and after the transition era. Luckily I was smart enough to buy several bottles while it was still available, and can testify today that I still use it for SP freight cr models. Bright red, it ain’t. Tony Thompson |
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Re: PBCX Tank Car Questions
Tangent Scale Models
It is a GATC 1917-Design Tank car.
David Lehlbach Tangent Scale Models |
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Re: CN Slabside Hopper
James Yaworsky
Atlas bought a lot of the True Line product line, including the slabside hopper molds:
Looks like their first run sold out, but presumably they are available from dealers and/or there's going to be a second run in the works...
Jim Yaworsky
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Re: 6,000 Gal. Tank Car Circa 1906
earlyrail
Not the cars, but 5 tank bodies exist in Dalhart Texas and the lettering tha can be seen is all Union Tank Line (no X in the reporting marks). Stamp on the end of at least one of the bodies is a 1905 date. By carefully removing the "tar" build up where the walkway would have been, a check of the underlying paint shows a red that is brighter the Tuscan or the rattle can primer. For those that remember old Floquil, it is close the D&H Caboose Red (The special to match the 4 wheel caboose) So, is someone going to make a trip this summer? Howard Garner |
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Re: DL&W Enterprise Twin Hopper
#83300-83799
Eric Hansmann
What DVD is this, Steve? I haven’t seen a notice about it.
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Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN On Feb 6, 2022, at 10:44 AM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
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Re: CN Slabside Hopper
Drew Bunn
On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 1:22 PM Robert Ellis <bobjel67@...> wrote:
Atlas actually owns the TLT tooling now and issued a re-release of these cars in HO, I think, within the last 18 months. https://shop.atlasrr.com/c-1564-h210.aspx?pagenum=1&sort=7 __________________________________ Drew Bunn drew.r.bunn@... Cell - (905) 483-0758 |
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Re: A Day At The Car Shops 1951 - Film About Building Freight Cars at Merchants Despatch
Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 05:56 AM, Bill Parks wrote:
One thing I found interesting is that they installed the brake gear from underneath the car. Somewhere in a box, I have a book on passenger cars that has a picture showing the underframe of a passenger car having everything installed while it was still upside down, and before the body was added....If you look around 24 minutes into the film, all the brackets,rod, and lever guides were installed while the underframe was still upside down, but the side sills are not, they are part of the side assembly. I suspect they found that the reservoir and piping would be in the way of riveting the side sill connections, so chose to install those items after the body was more complete. Dennis Storzek |
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Re: GBW Aluminum Traffic (was Manifest of Lading)
Alumina (concentrate) was another rail commodity. A number of private owners and the Illinois Central and I maybe GN bought covered hoppers specifically for alumina. On 2/4/2022 4:45 PM, Julian Erceg via groups.io wrote: Hello all, --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts |
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