Re: GBW Aluminum Traffic (was Manifest of Lading)
Dave Nelson
Sorry, I missed this thread in Feb.
In the late steam era almost all Aluminum smelting occurred in Washington State. This is because such smelting requires large amounts of electricity and due to the Columbia River dams that became the center of such work. Taking a guess here I’ll speculate that most rail shipments of Aluminum ingots would have originated here and moved across the country to various processing plants. I know of one such plant, an oddity: At the Kaiser Permanente Cement plant in Santa Clara County (a.k.a Silicon valley) Mr. Kaiser installed a Nazi aluminum rolling plant seized by the Allies at the end of WWII. They rolled Kaiser Aluminum Foil there for a number of years, probably past the end of our list scope. AFAIK it was the only such plant owned by Kaiser and that product was likely shipped nationwide.
Dave Nelson
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Re: Speaking of stockcars.sharing a trick
Dave Nelson
Years ago, before I developed sensitivity to resin dust, I worked at a batch of 6-8 Westerfield stockcars at a single go – prep this part X 5-7more times, prep that part, etc. etc., I found the work went notably faster. The reason was how much time I would spend reading the instructions, finding the part, doing the part, checking it. That was a substantial part of the whole time spent. Doing 6-8 cards didn’t avoid that process… it was necessary for the first part of its type but it was omitted from the successive 5-7 remaining parts. Those went very fast.
Basic TQC stuff… every setup change is lost time (and yes, I sort all the dirty dishes etc., before washing them by hand).
Dave Nelson
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2022 10:47 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Here are two Westerfield cars flanking a Red Caboose car. The Wesdterfield kits made up into some real nice models. Beveling the sides and ends to produce a knife sharp edge proved to be a nightmare for me. I ruined two kits before throwing in the towel and getting someone else to build the cars for me.
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Re: QARE: [RealSTMFC] Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Thankfully branchline retooled them. I do not have any idea what that cost them though.
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Re: FORGOTTEN TREASURES
Dave Nelson
MM had its own kind of flaws… none of the drawings were dimensioned. Anybody working in gauges not HO were just SOL. Bob assumed people would lay styrene right on the page. He never allowed casting masters to be made from his own, rather fine looking models. That could have been another source of revenue.
Dave Nelson
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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 12:18 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] FORGOTTEN TREASURES
Hi Bill,
MM was the magazine that first sparked my interest in prototype equipment modeling, and the overall idea of modeling from the prototype, as much as possible.
Do you know what happened to the end of the Southern Deck Truss project?
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Re: FORGOTTEN TREASURES
Dave Nelson
Thanks!
That means I have all of them.
Dave Nelson
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Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 9:55 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] FORGOTTEN TREASURES
Hi Dave,
There was no May '90 Issue. Scott Haycock
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Re: ATSF boxcar with grain doors
Bud
The car is in the Intermountain factory paint and lettering; I just gave it a light coat of Dullcote with a couple drops of tan. -- Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne. |
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Re: ATSF boxcar with grain doors
Bud Rindfleisch
Charlie, Mind if I ask what paint you used on this AT&SF boxcar? Seems a little browner than just oxide red. Bud Rindfleisch |
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Chateau Martin wine color
Bud Rindfleisch
Gents,
Does anyone have a favorite model manufacturer paint that they've used for a Chateau Martin wine car? I realize there are several hues of these cars as noted throughout their careers and various fading and weathering and well documented on the CM website. I recall seeing these cars one rare occasions in NYC eastbound coming into Buffalo, NY, back in the late 60's early 70's at best, and they looked more of purplish hue then. I also have a Bob's photo of car # CMWX 123 and it has more of a red hue to it. Photo was taken 9-53. A friend gave me two jars of latex house paint that he had mixed to match the purple color as he also recalled seeing them. This paint is not airbrush friendly though, so if I can find a suitable model paint I'd go for it, purplish or redish either or. Bud Rindfleisch |
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PM printed underframe
Joseph
_._,_._,_ Joe Binish |
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Re: Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
WILLIAM PARDIE
Here are two Westerfield cars flanking a Red Caboose car. The Wesdterfield kits made up into some real nice models. Beveling the sides and ends to produce a knife sharp edge proved to be a nightmare for me. I ruined two kits before throwing in the towel and getting someone else to build the cars for me. Bill Pardie |
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Re: Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Nelson Moyer
I forgot to mention bull boards. I painted the bull boards that came in the Sunshine kits, and I plan to install them on about half of my CB&Q cars. If the car has bull boards in the brackets, it’s empty. If I has no bull boards in the brackets, it’s loaded.
Nelson Moyer
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Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 11:41 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Staying (somewhat) on topic; while digging through my box of extra freight car parts (I’ve saved the last 40 years) I came across four sets of Walters steers. Do you run your stockcars with loads of livestock or empty or a mix? |
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Re: Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Nelson Moyer
Sunshine sold resin profile stock car loads, and I bought a couple of packs. After looking them, I decided not to install them because 50% of the time, they would be inappropriate, either way. I considered putting them on only one side of a car, so whether it was loaded on not depended upon side of the car faced the aisle. That would work if your track plan never reversed the car sides, but mine does. Livestock loads aren’t particular visible, and if you have a livestock load, you can’t waybill the car for any other load, e.g. pig iron, watermelons, ties, lumber, etc. during off season. Anybody want to buy some Sunshine profile livestock loads?
Nelson Moyer
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Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 11:41 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Staying (somewhat) on topic; while digging through my box of extra freight car parts (I’ve saved the last 40 years) I came across four sets of Walters steers. Do you run your stockcars with loads of livestock or empty or a mix? |
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Re: Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Dennis Storzek <dennis@...>
A friend used white styrofoam packing peanuts on the upper and lower decks of an On3 stockcar to simulate tightly bunched sheep. It worker surprisingly well.
Dennis Storzek |
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Re: Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
These are plastic.
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Re: Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Anything other than plastic would weigh a lot. All you really need are some cow shapes cut from card stock to keep from looking thru.
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Re: Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Staying (somewhat) on topic; while digging through my box of extra freight car parts (I’ve saved the last 40 years) I came across four sets of Walters steers. Do you run your stockcars with loads of livestock or empty or a mix?
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Re: Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Nelson Moyer
The Speedwitch GN stock car kit has a recess on the edges of the ends. The ends of the side slats fit into the recess, which not only provides more surface area for gluing, but solves the slat alignment problem and insures that the slats were recessed slightly at the edges of the ends. Very cleaver solution to boxing flat kits, especially stock cars.
Nelson Moyer
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Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 10:38 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Ah, I see. The Westerfield 36' WP Stockcars dealt with the board ends by having you sand the corners at a 45 before joining to get the look. Not all the easy to do.
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Re: Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
radiodial868
Ah, I see. The Westerfield 36' WP Stockcars dealt with the board ends by having you sand the corners at a 45 before joining to get the look. Not all the easy to do.
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Re: New York Central well-hole car
The HO & "O" Scale C&O Quality Craft kits also mentions to paint the car a boxcar red. That is wrong. The cars were black. I picked up one already built many years ago and the builder followed the instructions. Once more information became available from the C&O Histerical Society, we confirmed they were black.
Speaking of the ROCO flat car with Buckeye trucks, I have two cars for sale if anyone is interested. John Henning |
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Re: QARE: [RealSTMFC] Speaking of stockcars…sharing a trick
Benjamin Hom
Nelson Moyer wrote: "I included the SM-18 underframe photo because the Challenger brass import and the Sunshine kit instructions are both incorrect about placement of the AB brake components, probably because both relied upon the Hundman drawing." Another reason why Hundman drawings should be verified before moving forward with a build. And for those who still find this hard to believe, six words: Branchline Forty-One Foot Inside Length Boxcars Ben Hom |
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