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Re: Auto Haulers
Mark
Excuse me but I was pointing out the freight cars in the background. Year of fords sounds great but those cars(various) look better, wish we could get a better view of the rolling stock.
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Regards, Mark Morgan PS have owned one ford
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Re: Intermountain SP T&NO B-50-26 roof
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
WILLIAM PARDIE wrote:
I have two of Ted's kits and along with the correct roofs (which were extra) there are additional doors which have the wide seem.They permit you to do the 1946 orders of B-50-25. They do not apply to B-50-26. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Intermountain SP T&NO B-50-26 roof
WILLIAM PARDIE
I have two of Ted's kits and along with the correct roofs (which were
extra) there are additional doors which have the wide seem. Am I missing something with the doors? Bill Pardie On Mar 31, 2011, at 1:55 PM, cobrapsl@... wrote:
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automobile car & other identification
Robert kirkham
I've posted some additional zoomed in shots of specific cars that appear in the yard photo I posted last week with the hope that some may be able to assist a little more with identification. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files/Vancouver%20late%20war%20yard%20/
I am thinking the car in image #93 is a 50' Missouri Pacific composite automobile car - based on what little I can make of the herald. I wonder whether what can be seen in the photo is enough to confirm it is a MP car? And wondering about modelling options as well. These shots are thought to be taken either late WWII of early postwar. Photo #151 shows a steel automobile car with steel running boards. The image is taken from the edge of the photo so part of the car is not shown. The markings are so spartan I was hoping that alone might assist identifying the owner and car type. Photo 59 shows a composite boxcar with a) a large circular herald near the right end and b) what appears to be lengthy reporting marks left of the door. Is that enough to seriously narrow down the possible owners? I'm wondering whether it could be Seaboard or Southern? I recognise that all of these are poor quality images - they are scanned at 2400 dpi from the original print. Thanks in advance for any further help. Rob Kirkham
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Re: Walthers 30' wood caboose with offset cupola
Bob
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Walthers produced a CA-1 a number of years ago. I don't recall exactly when it came out. Tim O'Connor
One or two of you may be wondering, "Why does Jeff care about a GTW
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Re: Walthers 30' wood caboose with offset cupola
rwitt_2000
Bob Weston wrote:
design? Have any drawings of this caboose ever been published in the model or prototype press? Prototype photos of similar cabooses show them with truss rods. Any info greatly appreciated. Here is an old post from 2002 by Jeff Aley. A different search of the archives may produce others. The best information did imply it was based on a GTW prototype. Walthers HO Caboose Message #6463 <../../../../messages/6463?o=1&xm=1&l=1> <../../../../post?act=reply&messageNum=6463> <../../../../message/6462> < Next > </group/STMFC/message/6464?var=1&l=1> Walthers has announced a GTW caboose (see http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-7501 <http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-7501> ). Has anyone seen a pre-production sample of these? How are they? One or two of you may be wondering, "Why does Jeff care about a GTW caboose?" The answer is that Walthers is planning to also do a UP CA-1, and I want a preview of what kind of job they will do. Bob Witt
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Re: Blue Coal reference
Good catch, as I have XM in my car and my work area and hear the Blue Coal
ads as well on Old Time Radio shows on XM. Fenton On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Brian <cornbeltroute@...> wrote:
-- Fenton Wells 3047 Creek Run Sanford NC 27332 919-499-5545 srrfan1401@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Blue Coal reference
Brian <cornbeltroute@...>
Not long ago, a thread here discussed the coloring of coal used for marketing, some decades ago. A few days ago, reading the book, "Everyday Life from Prohibition through World War II" (Marc McCutcheon), I came across this 1938 Mutual network excerpt from the radio crime program The Shadow:
---------- . . . opening announcement, The Shadow: "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows! [laughs]" Announcer: "Again, Blue Coal dealers present radio's strangest adventurer, the Shadow, mystery man who strikes terror into the very hearts of lawbreakers and criminals. . . . Today, Blue Coal brings you the Shadow's greatest adventure, 'The Silent Avenger.' . . . The Shadow's exciting adventure begins in just a moment, but first, I'd like to remind you homeowners that right now, when Winter is changing into Spring, is the most treacherous time of all the year. But you can protect your family's health and save valuable dollars by burning Blue Coal. It's Pennsylvania's finest anthracite. Order a trial ton from your nearest Blue Coal dealer tomorrow. ---------- Thought some here might get a kick from this passage from the past. Brian Chapman Evansdale, Iowa
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Re: Baltimore and Ohio hopper cars...
Benjamin Hom
I wrote:
"As Rich Orr suggested, see my article in the May/June 2009 issue of The B&O Modeler for more information on the B&O hopper fleet." Trying to multitask too much at 0600 - correct issue is May/June *2006*. Apologies for any confusion. Ben Hom
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Re: Murphy
water.kresse@...
I believe we are talking about Peter Murphy the 1930s and later?
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Advanced Goodle Patent Search under inventor? Al Kresse
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From: "Rupert & Maureen" <gamlenz@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2011 11:18:12 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re:Murphy About a month ago, there was a posting from Tony Thompson about "Murphy" with the comment - As far as Richard Hendrickson and I have ever been able to determine, the term (Murphy) refers back to an invention of interlocking metal parts which made the combination water-tight, or approximately so. Thus the term could be applied to any component which employed that arrangement. One supposes that "Murphy" refers to the inventor, rather than to the well- known "Murphy's Law." I've found a piece in the Railway Mechanical Engineer of 1916 referring to Charles Murphy, CB&Q's tin shop foreman at Aurora, who had devised a new roof using steel sheets taken from the roofs of destroyed cars. The article gave a description of how the roof was constructed consisting of five parts: the roof sheets, transverse and center cover caps, eave flashings and the roof clips, with crimped edges to interlock the pieces. The article comments that the roof was simple in construction, easy to make, flexible and waterproof. It permitted a large amount of wearing of the car without straining the sheets nor opening up holes for water to leak through. There were no sharp corners nor crevices to collect dirt and hold moisture. Air could circulate freely to all parts of the sheets, keeping them in a dry state, and the sizes of the roof sheets and center cover caps were selected so that old roof sheets could be cut down, recrimped and re-used. Whether this is THE Murphy, I've no idea but if anyone wants a copy of the full article, contact me off list. Rupert Gamlen Auckland NZ
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Walthers 30' wood caboose with offset cupola
Bob Weston
Hi Guys!
Am I correct in assuming this model is based on a Haskell and Barker design? Have any drawings of this caboose ever been published in the model or prototype press? Prototype photos of similar cabooses show them with truss rods. Any info greatly appreciated. Thanks! Bob Weston
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Re: Baltimore and Ohio hopper cars...
Benjamin Hom
Steve Lucas asked:
"I've been told on this list that B&O hopper cars had Duryea draft gear. What online photos I can find confirm this, except for this car painted up as B&O 829839 on the Conway Scenic at North Conway, NH-- http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2176474 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2190867 This car appears to have conventional draft gear. Was this a B&O car, or is it a 12" = 1' reproduction using another road's car?" Later classes of B&O offset hopper cars (N-41, N-44 twins; W-8, W-9 triples) did not have Duryea cushion underframes. However, in the case of this car, the car number appears to be bogus as it doesn't fall inside any pre-1964 B&O hopper number series. The closest number series is 829300-829783, Class N-41a, 484 ex-LNE cars acquired in 1963. As Rich Orr suggested, see my article in the May/June 2009 issue of The B&O Modeler for more information on the B&O hopper fleet. Ben Hom
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Re: Baltimore and Ohio hopper cars...
SUVCWORR@...
See Ben Hom's article in the B&O Modeler Vol 2 No 3 May'June 2006 available from the B&O Historical Society on CD.
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Rich Orr
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From: Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 12:59 am Subject: [STMFC] Baltimore and Ohio hopper cars... I've been told on this list that B&O hopper cars had Duryea draft gear. What online photos I can find confirm this, except for this car painted up as B&O 829839 on the Conway Scenic at North Conway, NH-- http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2176474 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2190867 This car appears to have conventional draft gear. Was this a B&O car, or is it a 12" = 1' reproduction using another road's car? Steve Lucas. ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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Baltimore and Ohio hopper cars...
Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
I've been told on this list that B&O hopper cars had Duryea draft gear. What online photos I can find confirm this, except for this car painted up as B&O 829839 on the Conway Scenic at North Conway, NH--
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2176474 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2190867 This car appears to have conventional draft gear. Was this a B&O car, or is it a 12" = 1' reproduction using another road's car? Steve Lucas.
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Re: Auto Haulers
Larry Wolohon
This is getting off topic but the early 1947 Fords were identical to the 1946's. This is per my copy of the 1941 - 48 Fords put out by the Early Ford V-8 Club. So these Ford are either 1946's or very early 1947's. The 1947's were a transitional year. The early 1947's were identical to the 1946's then they got the round parking lights under the headlights from trucks probably as a cost reduction, with no hood ornament. The last 1947's received hood ornaments like the 1948 Fords.
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Larry Wolohon/owner of 1941 & 1948 Fords
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From: Rhbale@... To: STMFC@... Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2011 9:22:43 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Auto Haulers You are looking at 1946 Fords. The rectangular parking lights inboard of the headlights were the same in 1942 and 1946. As Richard Hendrickson has pointed out, the 1947 Fords were virtually identical, except that the parking lights became round and smaller, and were positioned just below the headlights. The two short chrome strips on the trunk were also new for 1946 but I don't know with certainty if they were continued in '47. Richard Bale ( http://www.mrhmag.comIn a message dated 4/2/2011 11:31:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rhendrickson@... writes: On Apr 2, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Mark M wrote:> Found an interesting photo of a car hauler in the background is a > host of freight cars.>> ) In a message dated 4/2/2011 11:31:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rhendrickson@... writes: On Apr 2, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Mark M wrote: Found an interesting photo of a car hauler in the background is a_ http://www.flickr.com/photos/brimen/5054484296/in/_ ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/brimen/5054484296/in/ ) _ set-72157625100884778/lightbox/Mark, just for the record, those are postwar Fords, probably '46 models or maybe the nearly identical '47s. Richard Hendrickson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ ( http://www.model-railroad-hobbyist.com/ )
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Re: Steam era freight yards, take II
Jim Pickett
I hurriedly stitched them together for you. Forgive me for the liberty.
Jim Pickett Tom Madden wrote: On Veterans Day 1960 I took a series of three shots of the PRR Phillipsburg facilities from across the river just south of Easton. A couple of years ago I assembled them into a panoramic view of questionable quality - at least, as best as I could. When taking the photos I neglected to overlap the left and center ones: http://www.pullmanproject.com/Phillipsburg.jpg [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Murphy
Rupert & Maureen <gamlenz@...>
About a month ago, there was a posting from Tony Thompson about "Murphy" with the comment -
As far as Richard Hendrickson and I have ever been able to determine, the term (Murphy) refers back to an invention of interlocking metal parts which made the combination water-tight, or approximately so. Thus the term could be applied to any component which employed that arrangement. One supposes that "Murphy" refers to the inventor, rather than to the well- known "Murphy's Law." I've found a piece in the Railway Mechanical Engineer of 1916 referring to Charles Murphy, CB&Q's tin shop foreman at Aurora, who had devised a new roof using steel sheets taken from the roofs of destroyed cars. The article gave a description of how the roof was constructed consisting of five parts: the roof sheets, transverse and center cover caps, eave flashings and the roof clips, with crimped edges to interlock the pieces. The article comments that the roof was simple in construction, easy to make, flexible and waterproof. It permitted a large amount of wearing of the car without straining the sheets nor opening up holes for water to leak through. There were no sharp corners nor crevices to collect dirt and hold moisture. Air could circulate freely to all parts of the sheets, keeping them in a dry state, and the sizes of the roof sheets and center cover caps were selected so that old roof sheets could be cut down, recrimped and re-used. Whether this is THE Murphy, I've no idea but if anyone wants a copy of the full article, contact me off list. Rupert Gamlen Auckland NZ
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Re: The B&O Modeler - March/April 2011
bdg1210 <Bruce_Griffin@...>
Group,
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For full disclosure, the back issues are in the works and we were working to get caught up before now, but ran out of time. Bob's article, while not strictly prototypical, was so good, I could not hold it any longer. I had it last April, but could not get it published in time. I love the creativity and the great modeling. Bill, If you want more info and photos for the M-15-l or m, contact me directly and I can send some prototype and model photos (I have built about 10 of the F&C kits but have not had time to write it up). We would really appreciate you writing it up for us. The lack of prototype modeling articles is because we don't get enough of them. If anyone is willing to model and write, we are willing to assist with the research. The B&O HS Archives is always willing to help authors (non-memberrs included) with their work, just ask and give credit in your writing. Regards, Bruce Griffin Summerfield, NC
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Re: Auto Haulers
Richard Bale
You are looking at 1946 Fords. The rectangular parking lights inboard of
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the headlights were the same in 1942 and 1946. As Richard Hendrickson has pointed out, the 1947 Fords were virtually identical, except that the parking lights became round and smaller, and were positioned just below the headlights. The two short chrome strips on the trunk were also new for 1946 but I don't know with certainty if they were continued in '47. Richard Bale (http://www.mrhmag.comIn a message dated 4/2/2011 11:31:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rhendrickson@... writes: On Apr 2, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Mark M wrote:> Found an interesting photo of a car hauler in the background is a > host of freight cars.>> )
In a message dated 4/2/2011 11:31:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rhendrickson@... writes: On Apr 2, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Mark M wrote: Found an interesting photo of a car hauler in the background is a _http://www.flickr.com/photos/brimen/5054484296/in/_ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/brimen/5054484296/in/) _ set-72157625100884778/lightbox/Mark, just for the record, those are postwar Fords, probably '46 models or maybe the nearly identical '47s. Richard Hendrickson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ (http://www.model-railroad-hobbyist.com/)
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Re: Intermountain SP T&NO B-50-26 roof
WaltGCox@...
Thanks Jim & Ed, I found the doors I was looking for using your link. Walt
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hawk0621@... writes: On Mar 31, 2011, at 8:48 PM, _WaltGCox@... (mailto:WaltGCox@...) wrote: I am looking for some wide seam doors and tried to Google" SouthwestWalt, Southwest Scale Productions at _http://www.southwestscale.com/_ (http://www.southwestscale.com/) Ed Hawkins [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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