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Re: Contact for Bob Chapman

golden1014
 

Thank you, Bob! John Golden

--- In STMFC@..., Bob Miller <cajonpass02@...> wrote:

Yes. Try chapbob@...
 
He and I used to belong to the same model rr club.



 
Bob Miller
Saginaw, MI
 

--- On Tue, 3/8/11, John Golden <golden1014@...> wrote:


From: John Golden <golden1014@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Contact for Bob Chapman
To: stmfc@...
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 8:33 AM


 



Folks,

Does anyone have contact info for Bob Chapman?

Thanks,
John
 John Golden
O'Fallon, IL













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Re: Panel side hoppers

A. Premo <armprem2@...>
 

Unfortunately the CV cars mentioned were not USRA cars,but dimensionally close to Bowser's GLa s.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: Don
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:49 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Panel side hoppers



And not only that but the CV had one or two that ran for years with some blister panels and some original panels! Talk about an odd sight! The Essex Junction, VT based North Western Vermont Model RR Society offered a custom run of these cars from Accu-Rail in their original paint style and may have a few left. The club sponsors the annual model railroad show at the Champlain Valley Fairground in Essex Junction each March. This year's show is this coming Saturday for anyone in the area who might like to check on current availability of these models.

Sorry for the crass commercial but the cas are very definitely steam era.

Don Valentine

--- In STMFC@..., ROGER HINMAN <rhinman11@...> wrote:
>
> Central Vermont had some, there was an article in RMC a few years ago on these cars.
>
>
> Roger Hinman
> On Mar 7, 2011, at 4:14 PM, cepropst@... wrote:
>
> > I finished a Power Point presentation for Stan Rydarowicz last week.
> > It's mainly about the Wabash cars. That's what Stan sells models of. Also included are C&O, NYC, PRR, and CNW. I have a couple photos of Frisco panel sides. One partial in is front of a caboose. I thought it would make a good "The End" slide. But, I hesitated to use it because I know nothing about the Frisco cars. If someone could provide me with a descent photo and a brief description of the series I'd really appreciate it.
> >
> > Did any other railroads that owned any?
> > Thanks, Clark Propst
> >
> >
>
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Re: Panel side hoppers

A. Premo <armprem2@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Don
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:49 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Panel side hoppers



And not only that but the CV had one or two that ran for years with some blister panels and some original panels! Talk about an odd sight! The Essex Junction, VT based North Western Vermont Model RR Society offered a custom run of these cars from Accu-Rail in their original paint style and may have a few left. The club sponsors the annual model railroad show at the Champlain Valley Fairground in Essex Junction each March. This year's show is this coming Saturday for anyone in the area who might like to check on current availability of these models.

Sorry for the crass commercial but the cas are very definitely steam era.

Don Valentine

--- In STMFC@..., ROGER HINMAN <rhinman11@...> wrote:
>
> Central Vermont had some, there was an article in RMC a few years ago on these cars.
>
>
> Roger Hinman
> On Mar 7, 2011, at 4:14 PM, cepropst@... wrote:
>
> > I finished a Power Point presentation for Stan Rydarowicz last week.
> > It's mainly about the Wabash cars. That's what Stan sells models of. Also included are C&O, NYC, PRR, and CNW. I have a couple photos of Frisco panel sides. One partial in is front of a caboose. I thought it would make a good "The End" slide. But, I hesitated to use it because I know nothing about the Frisco cars. If someone could provide me with a descent photo and a brief description of the series I'd really appreciate it.
> >
> > Did any other railroads that owned any?
> > Thanks, Clark Propst
> >
> >
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>
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Re: Erie 1937 AAR

Mark
 

Wish to thank Ron, Tim and Ed. Googled this after posting and found an article about this car by Richard Hendrickson!

Now set on the Erie car but have a few more viking roofs to use!

Mark Morgan

--- In STMFC@..., "EdwardM" <ed_mines@...> wrote:

There are builders photos on the fallen flags site courtesy of Dan Biernacki.

Ed Mines

--- In STMFC@..., "Mark M" <bnonut@> wrote:

I have one IMWX 1937 AAR boxcar and a Des plaines viking roof. Photo of Erie #79192 in postwar freight car fleet page 72 looks correct.

Any suggestions and thanks in advance.

Mark Morgan


Re: aTLAS sHRUGGED

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Ms Taggart owned Taggart Transcontinental.

SGL



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Thomas Warne
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:38 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] aTLAS sHRUGGED





Sorry, but no. Dagny Taggart was the owner of the John Galt line.(Re)read
the book before commenting.
Tom Warne

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From: Schuyler Larrabee <schuyler.larrabee@...
<mailto:schuyler.larrabee%40verizon.net> >
Subject: RE: [STMFC] aTLAS sHRUGGED
To: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, March 7, 2011, 9:16 PM



And John Galt was the owner of the John Galt Lines, in the book Atlas

Shrugged, by Ayn Rand.

SGL










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Re: Erie 1937 AAR

ed_mines
 

There are builders photos on the fallen flags site courtesy of Dan Biernacki.

Ed Mines

--- In STMFC@..., "Mark M" <bnonut@...> wrote:

I have one IMWX 1937 AAR boxcar and a Des plaines viking roof. Photo of Erie #79192 in postwar freight car fleet page 72 looks correct.

Any suggestions and thanks in advance.

Mark Morgan


Re: Contact for Bob Chapman

Robert J Miller CFA
 

Yes. Try chapbob@...
 
He and I used to belong to the same model rr club.



 
Bob Miller
Saginaw, MI

--- On Tue, 3/8/11, John Golden <golden1014@...> wrote:


From: John Golden <golden1014@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Contact for Bob Chapman
To: stmfc@...
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2011, 8:33 AM


 



Folks,

Does anyone have contact info for Bob Chapman?

Thanks,
John
 John Golden
O'Fallon, IL


Re: John Galt Line

tbarney2004
 

On 3/8/2011 10:31 AM, Al and Patricia Westerfield wrote:
The new film takes place in 2016 whereas the novel was present day (mid-1950s). My layout was an homage backdated to 1923. I wished it could be slightly earlier but to be prototypically correct that was the date. You see, the main box car the fleet was the X29. Just because the road was mythical didn't mean it couldn't be prototypically correct. I chose to model that portion of JGL that ran from Denver to Grand Junction, the hidden storage yards on each end. I purchased 3-D topo maps to decide where the roadbed would be placed. The rolling stock had class designations. I purchased private name decals from Walthers both in white and gold for freight and passenger cars. As I said, the box car was the Train Miniature X29. The auto car and gondola were AHM, backdated with stem winders. The hopper was Athearn, similarly backdated. Battleship gons and Harriman coaches were mass produced by primitive casting methods. Trucks were standardized. Of course, I had no idea at the time about freight car movement so the line was replete with lots of billboards and obscure names. I had to have about 300 cars on the layout to operate it properly. After awhile you get pretty sick of seeing nothing but the same car designs. I thought, why not make my own? That's when the trouble started. - Al
And believe me, a very heartfelt thanks for going to all that trouble!

Tim Barney


Re: B&O O-27b gondola and other railroad with similar cars

ROGER HINMAN
 

fishbelly sides or fishbelly center sills???


The New York Central lots 591-G and 592-G were 50 ft fishbelly side cars. There were only a total of 1000 built, sort of a transition design between the USRA clone and the 52'6" cars that would follow.


Roger Hinman
On Mar 8, 2011, at 5:22 PM, jim_mischke wrote:


The B&O class O-27b gondola is an interesting car, a 50' fishbelly Bethlehem-built steel gondola that preceded the standard 52'6" gondola. B&O had thousands of these O-27b gondolas and modified them for many purposes and they lasted in some form into the 1970's.

Model manufacturers are attracted to multiple road name freight cars .... like moths to light .... and I could make a better case to a resin or plastic model manufacturer if I knew of other railroads besides B&O with this Bethlehem 50' gondola. I invite discussion and insights on this matter.

This B&O O-27b is not to be confused with the B&O O-27/O-27a gondolas, which were shorter USRA and USRA clone steel gondolas. Why B&O lumped these dissimilar cars in the same class is a mystery.



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B&O O-27b gondola and other railroad with similar cars

Jim Mischke
 

The B&O class O-27b gondola is an interesting car, a 50' fishbelly Bethlehem-built steel gondola that preceded the standard 52'6" gondola. B&O had thousands of these O-27b gondolas and modified them for many purposes and they lasted in some form into the 1970's.

Model manufacturers are attracted to multiple road name freight cars .... like moths to light .... and I could make a better case to a resin or plastic model manufacturer if I knew of other railroads besides B&O with this Bethlehem 50' gondola. I invite discussion and insights on this matter.

This B&O O-27b is not to be confused with the B&O O-27/O-27a gondolas, which were shorter USRA and USRA clone steel gondolas. Why B&O lumped these dissimilar cars in the same class is a mystery.


Re: Southwest Scale Productions

O Fenton Wells
 

Thank you Mr. Heninger, I appreciate that.
Fenton

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:12 PM, gn3397 <heninger@...> wrote:



Hello All,
Thought I would post this link. Mr. Hall has a website with some photos of
his doors. You can order direct, but I have gotten good service from our own
Andy Carlson.

http://southwestscale.com/

Sincerely,
Robert D. Heninger
Iowa City, IA




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Re: Pennsy Class X-44 50 ft. and UP Class B-50-39 40 ft. Boxcar Roof Colors

O Fenton Wells
 

I'd like to get a catalog of his parts to see what's available. Does anyone
have this on line?

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>wrote:



Fenton

I don't -- I've met Dan only once; I buy his doors from Andy Carlson.

Tim O'Connor


At 3/8/2011 12:50 PM Tuesday, you wrote:
Tim, do you have an email address for Dan Hall?
Fenton



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Re: Panel side hoppers

Clark Propst
 

Thanks Matt for the info and link. That's what I needed to add the D&H to the presentation. You have been credited.

Thanks to all who offered advice and photos.

Hope Stan likes the additions....
Clark Propst


Re: Panel side hoppers

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

David--


It was the Grand Trunk Western that had these cars. The Grand Trunk was assimilated into CN in 1923.

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., "jaydeet2001" <jaydeet2001@...> wrote:

--- In STMFC@..., cepropst@ wrote:

Did any other railroads that owned any?
Aside from what's already been named, Missouri Pacific and Grand Trunk also had rebuilds, and EJ&E had some 70-ton side-dump hoppers built new.

David Thompson


Southwest Scale Productions

gn3397 <heninger@...>
 

Hello All,
Thought I would post this link. Mr. Hall has a website with some photos of his doors. You can order direct, but I have gotten good service from our own Andy Carlson.

http://southwestscale.com/

Sincerely,
Robert D. Heninger
Iowa City, IA


Re: sanding sticks source?

dennyanspach <danspach@...>
 

I use the Walgreens nail sanding boards and cut them down to thin strips with my xacto or boxcutter. If I am in a hurry I'l cut the ends to >shape with my side cutting rail nippers.
Without in the slightest disagreeing with this point of view or the methods described (I do the same), I would add the serious caution that the methods described will quickly trash the cutting edges of any of the knives or other cutting tools employed. With renewable-blade cutters this may not be an issue, but with good side cutting nail nippers....? The latter is also renewable, of course, but also at some price not completely measurable in dollars.

Denny
Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento


Re: Panel side hoppers

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

And not only that but the CV had one or two that ran for years with some blister panels and some original panels! Talk about an odd sight! The Essex Junction, VT based North Western Vermont Model RR Society offered a custom run of these cars from Accu-Rail in their original paint style and may have a few left. The club sponsors the annual model railroad show at the Champlain Valley Fairground in Essex Junction each March. This year's show is this coming Saturday for anyone in the area who might like to check on current availability of these models.

Sorry for the crass commercial but the cas are very definitely steam era.

Don Valentine

--- In STMFC@..., ROGER HINMAN <rhinman11@...> wrote:

Central Vermont had some, there was an article in RMC a few years ago on these cars.


Roger Hinman
On Mar 7, 2011, at 4:14 PM, cepropst@... wrote:

I finished a Power Point presentation for Stan Rydarowicz last week.
It's mainly about the Wabash cars. That's what Stan sells models of. Also included are C&O, NYC, PRR, and CNW. I have a couple photos of Frisco panel sides. One partial in is front of a caboose. I thought it would make a good "The End" slide. But, I hesitated to use it because I know nothing about the Frisco cars. If someone could provide me with a descent photo and a brief description of the series I'd really appreciate it.

Did any other railroads that owned any?
Thanks, Clark Propst



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Re: Panel side hoppers

Richard Townsend
 

The CB&Q had, I think, one hopper with "blister panels" (my term, not an acceptable prototype term) on the center two panels of each side.


Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon


Re: Pennsy Class X-44 50 ft. and UP Class B-50-39 40 ft. Boxcar Roof Colors

Tim O'Connor
 

Fenton

I don't -- I've met Dan only once; I buy his doors from Andy Carlson.

Tim O'Connor

At 3/8/2011 12:50 PM Tuesday, you wrote:
Tim, do you have an email address for Dan Hall?
Fenton


Re: Pennsy Class X-44 50 ft. and UP Class B-50-39 40 ft. Boxcar Roof Colors

O Fenton Wells
 

Tim, do you have an email address for Dan Hall?
Fenton
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>wrote:



Nelson

UP B-50-39 197000-198499 blt 1947 PS lot 5861
UP B-50-39 198500-198999 blt 1947 GATC

As far as I know they were entirely oxide red. Note that the GATC built
cars were all delivered with all-yellow lettering, while the PS built cars
had a mix of white and yellow lettering, per UP standard practice at that
time.

All 1500 cars built by PS had spring plank trucks, while the 500 GATC cars
were split: 250 Barber S-2 and 250 ASF A-3, all without spring planks.

The cars all had "YSD-2A" style doors (6/6/5 or 5/5/4 depending on how you
count) -- This is NOT the Branchline door. It is Dan Hall's #622 door.

Tim O'Connor

------------------------------------------

Another question pertains to the roof color on UP Class B-50-39 40 ft.
boxcars. An article in Railmodel Journal gives roof color as black, but the
model photos on the Speedwich web site show color pictures of the model
with
a oxide red roof to match the rest of the car. The Branchline kit comes
with
oxide red roof and running board. What is the correct roof color for this
class?
Nelson




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