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Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars]
Rather crude by present standards.Hardly worth the effort IMHO,> but I quess it's the show in town. > Armand Premo I don't know why folks run down the C&BT box cars. Are they as good as Branchline cars? No. But they can be built into perfectly respectable models. To model a double door car I'd always look first at single door cars -- C&BT made 10 panel and 12 panel box cars with 6' 7' 8' doors. That means a wide variety of riveted panel widths!! Tim O'Connor |
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Re: Paint Thinner Question
To add to Schuyler's comment, acrylic paints almost all use alcohol or
some other organic as a solvent. Since alcohol and water are miscible, water can be used to thin and clean up these paints. They are water soluble, but not "water based" as is so frequently stated in a variety of forums. While this may seem nit-picky, it is not as "water soluble" makes these paints seems safer than they really are. Regards, Bruce Smith Auburn, AL Water is the vehicle, not the "solvent." If it were the solvent, it"Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> 08/07/11 8:40 AM would later wash off with water, not a desirable feature. SGL From: hacketet Remember it this way: The 'solvent' is latex paint is just water. The solvents in lacquer paints smell (and act) like paint stripper. --- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Jack Burgess" <jack@...> wrote:
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Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars]
Armand Premo
Rather crude by present standards.Hardly worth the effort IMHO ,but I quess it's the show in town. .Armand Premo
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From: richtownsend@... To: STMFC@... Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 12:56 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars] The suggestion to use the C&BT double door box car is an interesting one (thanks for suggesting it) and sent me scurrying back out to the workshop. Sometimes I am amazed at what I have stashed away out there, and I found I had one. But I don't think it will work as well as the IM 12-panel car. This is because it forces the doors too far to the left in my opinion. Richard Townsend Lincoln City, Oregon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.891 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3235 - Release Date: 11/03/10 04:36:00 |
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Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars]
Richard Townsend
The suggestion to use the C&BT double door box car is an interesting one (thanks for suggesting it) and sent me scurrying back out to the workshop. Sometimes I am amazed at what I have stashed away out there, and I found I had one. But I don't think it will work as well as the IM 12-panel car. This is because it forces the doors too far to the left in my opinion.
Richard Townsend Lincoln City, Oregon |
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Re: Paint Thinner Question
Schuyler Larrabee
Water is the vehicle, not the "solvent." If it were the solvent, it would
later wash off with water, not a desirable feature. SGL From: hacketet Remember it this way: The 'solvent' is latex paint is just water. The solvents in lacquer paints smell (and act) like paint stripper. --- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Jack Burgess" <jack@...> wrote:
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Re: Paint Thinner Question
hacketet <hacketet@...>
Remember it this way:
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The 'solvent' is latex paint is just water. The solvents in lacquer paints smell (and act) like paint stripper. --- In STMFC@..., "Jack Burgess" <jack@...> wrote:
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Re: Paint Thinner Question
Jeff <motrakmodels@...>
Hey Folks,
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You can order Scalecoat products through me. Motrak Models is a dealer for Scalecoat paints and thinner. Just send me an email at motrakmodels@.... Thanks, Jeff Adam Motrak Models --- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:
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Re: Friends of the Freight Car at Lisle RPM Oct 2011 (OFF LIST)
Bob Slavinski
I'd also be willing to pre-order and prepay for one in a large size....let me know....
Thanks, Bob Slavinski ________________________________ From: Brian Carlson <prrk41361@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 7:40 PM Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Friends of the Freight Car at Lisle RPM Oct 2011 (OFF LIST) Tony It's doubtful I'll make the meeting this year, but I'd really like a shirt I'd be willing to pre-order and pay for one if it is a possibility. Understand if you guys aren't interested in making this complicated and only dealing with those at the meet but you probably know 80-90% of those who want a shirt so you could get sizes ahead of time. Just my thoughts Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga, NY From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Anthony Thompson Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 1:17 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Friends of the Frieght Car at Lisle RPM Oct 2011 Bob Slavinski wrote: will there be a way to purchase a shirt if you can't make it to theI don't know yet, Bob. Possibly. It will depend on how many shirts get made and how many are sold at the meeting. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... <mailto:thompson%40signaturepress.com> Publishers of books on railroad history [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: triple dome tankcar
al_brown03
A builder's photo of CTTX 8511 appears in RP CYC 10, p 102, right below the photo of SHPX 89. Didn't notice it earlier.
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Re: Paint Thinner Question
Jack Burgess <jack@...>
Nelson wrote:
< < I've read that it's not a good idea to apply solvent paint <over acrylic paint, but it's OK to apply acrylic over solvent paints. That is my understanding too although I don't use acrylic paints. (Although I do airbrush Dullcoat, diluted with lacquer thinner over Future used as a gloss coat.) Jack Burgess Newark, CA |
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Re: triple dome tankcar
al_brown03
A builder's photo of SHPX 89 appears in Kaminski's tank car book, p 42, and (same photo, larger) in RP CYC 10, p 102.
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Re: Paint Thinner Question
Nelson Moyer <ku0a@...>
Thanks for all the input, now lets take it to the next level. Can Scalecoat
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II be applies over an acrylic primer, when mixed with either naptha or lacquer thinner? I've read that it's not a good idea to apply solvent paint over acrylic paint, but it's OK to apply acrylic over solvent paints. If the solvent coat is light, as applied to bare plastic, how would it affect a coat of acrylic primer? When I ask the initial question, I had forgotten that I primed the bare plastic with Poly S Undercoat Gray a couple of months ago. Nelson -----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Pierre Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 5:31 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Paint Thinner Question The difference between Scalecoat I and Scalecoat II is that they use about 55% naptha in lieu of xylene in the Scalecoat II formulation. If the end user is really worried about using lacquer thinner then get some naptha if one doesn't want to wait for Weaver. Or take a page from those of us who learned to paint in the 70s when both Floquil and Scalecoat were lacquers and not plastic compatible. Make sure that the paint doesn't go on wet. Now I just painted 3 plastic boxcar shells with Scalecoat II and used lacquer thinner and had no problem at all. Pierre Oliver --- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:
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WTB: Branchline Undec 40" AAR Boxcar & Branchline Southern 40' AAR Boxcar
Allen Cain <allencain@...>
Looking for two items:
Branchline kit number 1514 of the Southern's 40 ft AAR boxcar Branchline kit number 1500 of the undecorated 40 ft AAR boxcar (I am assuming that this is the correct part number but if not, contact me with what you have) Thanks, Allen Cain |
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Re: Paint Thinner Question
Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
No argument there Richard. The styrene used by Atlas on their locomotive shells in the late 80's is a good example of a touchy material.
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Re: Friends of the Freight Car at Lisle RPM Oct 2011 (OFF LIST)
Tony It's doubtful I'll make the meeting this year, but I'd really like a
shirt I'd be willing to pre-order and pay for one if it is a possibility. Understand if you guys aren't interested in making this complicated and only dealing with those at the meet but you probably know 80-90% of those who want a shirt so you could get sizes ahead of time. Just my thoughts Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga, NY From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Anthony Thompson Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 1:17 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Friends of the Frieght Car at Lisle RPM Oct 2011 Bob Slavinski wrote: will there be a way to purchase a shirt if you can't make it to theI don't know yet, Bob. Possibly. It will depend on how many shirts get made and how many are sold at the meeting. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... <mailto:thompson%40signaturepress.com> Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Re: Paint Thinner Question
Richard Hendrickson
On Aug 6, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Pierre wrote:
The difference between Scalecoat I and Scalecoat II is that theyPierre, I don't question either your skill or your experience. It's been my experience, too, that lacquer thinner is okay on SOME plastics if you don't apply it too wet. However, some of the plastics used by model railroad manufactures craze or - worse - just curl up and die if too much lacquer thinner gets to them - I've seen it happen. So I'll stand by my earlier caution. If in doubt, use the paint manufacturer's thinner. Richard Hendrickson |
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triple dome tankcar
Mark
Greetings All
May have found what the brass triple dome tank car is. CTTX 8511 lot 1252 SHPX 89-90 lot 1138 Would anyone have a photo of these? Mark Morgan |
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HO Branchline Undec 40" AAR Boxcar & Branchline Southern 40' AAR Boxcar
Allen Cain <allencain@...>
Looking for two items:
HO Branchline kit number 1514 of the Southern's 40 ft AAR boxcar HO Branchline kit number 1500 of the undecorated 40 ft AAR boxcar (I am assuming that this is the correct part number but if not, contact me with what you have) Thanks, Allen Cain |
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Re: Paint Thinner Question
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Pierre Oliver wrote:
Or take a page from those of us who learned to paint in the 70s when both Floquil and Scalecoat were lacquers and not plastic compatible. Make sure that the paint doesn't go on wet.Pierre is right. I've been painting, as have MANY on this list, with solvent-based paints onto plastic freight cars for many years. Yes, you have to use care. No, it's not automatic disaster, by any means. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Re: Paint Thinner Question
pennsylvania1954
Hi Nelson--Alarm bells here, too. Is your Q car (which probably moved in a freight train at least once in its career) metal or plastic? If metal, you can use Scalecoat II mixed with Scalecoat I thinner, or, more economically, use Xylol. If plastic, I'm with Richard. Definitely use Scalecoat II thinner.
I frequently use SCII and nothing works as well with it as their thinner. Steve Hoxie Pensacola FL |
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