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Re: 1937 AAR DD 40' boxcar plans
Richard Hendrickson
On Aug 5, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Bob McCarthy wrote:
Good afternoon,Bob, the AAR 40'6" ad 50'6" standard double door auto cars, as well as the 50'6" single door box car, were not approved until 1942, so there are no drawings of them in the 1940 CBCyc. General arrangement drawings of the 50'6" single and double door cars are in the 1943 and 1946 CBCycs, but there are no drawings for the 40'6" double door car. I'm not sure where you can find drawings for that car, and in any case the individual cars that were built to the 1942 specs often varied in roofs, doors, and other details, so you would be better off finding drawings for a particular series of cars built for a specific railroad. If you can tell us which car interests you, we might be able to point you in the direction of general arrangement drawings for it. Richard Hendrickson |
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More Shorpy Pictures of Transfer Detroit
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www.shorpy.com/node/10514 www.shorpy.com/node/8513 Bob Weston |
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Re: Friends of the Frieght Car at Lisle RPM Oct 2011
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
I have not heard back from Joe D'elia about how big the dining room is for the FOTFC dinner, but I understand there will be a definite limit in how many can be accommodated for the meal. We will bring a "reasonable" number of shirts, all sizes, and those will be available whether or not you attend the dinner.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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1937 AAR DD 40' boxcar plans
Bob McCarthy
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Am seeking a set of plans for these cars. Have found a 1940 CAR BUILDERS CYCLOPEDIA for sale, but can not find out if it contains these plans. Any suggestions on acquiring these plans. Thanks, Bob McCarthy --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> Subject: [STMFC] Re: Friends of the Frieght Car at Lisle RPM Oct 2011 To: STMFC@... Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 7:24 PM I would normally respond with Groucho Marx's "I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members"... But since I wasn't there in 1990, this leaves the door open for the unwashed & unannointed (like me) to enter. Thank you. :-) Tim O' Jeff, the details are still in the process of being worked out, but> there will be a brief and informative after-dinner presentation, > attendance will be limited in number (owing to the room size, and > anyway we wanted to keep it from getting out of hand), and there will > probably be a new FFC polo shirt for sale. As you were one of the > original Friends, we'd especially like to have you there, as well as > anyone else who attended the first meeting at Tony Thompson's in > Pittsburgh in 1990. > Richard Hendrickson |
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Re: Looking for Jim Kincaid
water.kresse@...
My address for Jim failed also. Al Kresse
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From: "Luke" <RobertELucas@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 10:14:53 PM Subject: [STMFC] Looking for Jim Kincaid Am trying to reach James Kincade for help with an AC&Y Pullman-Standard question, but seems his email address has changed. Anyone know how to contact him? Thanks! Bob Lucas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Friends of the Frieght Car at Lisle RPM Oct 2011
I would normally respond with Groucho Marx's "I don't care to
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belong to a club that accepts people like me as members"... But since I wasn't there in 1990, this leaves the door open for the unwashed & unannointed (like me) to enter. Thank you. :-) Tim O' Jeff, the details are still in the process of being worked out, but> there will be a brief and informative after-dinner presentation, > attendance will be limited in number (owing to the room size, and > anyway we wanted to keep it from getting out of hand), and there will > probably be a new FFC polo shirt for sale. As you were one of the > original Friends, we'd especially like to have you there, as well as > anyone else who attended the first meeting at Tony Thompson's in > Pittsburgh in 1990. > Richard Hendrickson |
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Re: Friends of the Frieght Car at Lisle RPM Oct 2011
Jeff English
Richard,
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Thank you; I will sign up! Jeff --- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:
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Re: Friends of the Frieght Car at Lisle RPM Oct 2011
Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
Richard says "there will probably be a new FFC polo shirt for sale." I should hope so. I've already signed up for the dinner in Lisle on that expectation. - Andy
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Re: Friends of the Frieght Car at Lisle RPM Oct 2011
Richard Hendrickson
On Aug 5, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Jeff English wrote:
I note that the "new Naperville" RPM in Lisle includes a newJeff, the details are still in the process of being worked out, but there will be a brief and informative after-dinner presentation, attendance will be limited in number (owing to the room size, and anyway we wanted to keep it from getting out of hand), and there will probably be a new FFC polo shirt for sale. As you were one of the original Friends, we'd especially like to have you there, as well as anyone else who attended the first meeting at Tony Thompson's in Pittsburgh in 1990. Richard Hendrickson |
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Friends of the Frieght Car at Lisle RPM Oct 2011
Jeff English
I note that the "new Naperville" RPM in Lisle includes a new "Friends of the Freight Car" dinner & presentation on Thursday evening. Is there any additional information about this?
In the past I have not opted for the pizza/dessert events at Naperville, but FOFC is near & dear to my heart (my lack participation on this forum in recent years notwithstanding). Jeff English Troy, New York |
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Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars]
jerryglow2
The new Aug issue of the Ezine MRH has a nice article on rivets and covers the use of Archer (and MicroMark) ones.
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Jerry Glow --- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Looking for Jim Kincaid
Bob Lucas
Am trying to reach James Kincade for help with an AC&Y Pullman-Standard question, but seems his email address has changed. Anyone know how to contact him? Thanks! Bob Lucas
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Room Share
Jared Harper
I have bought my airline ticket for attending the Lisle meet and I am interested in sharing a room. I will be staying Wednesday,Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights.
Jared Harper Athens, GA 706-543-8821 harperandbrown@... |
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Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars]
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Richard Townsend wrote:
Well, my first thought after glancing at the photo in RPC #6 was to use a Branchline 40' kit and add two 8" doors (the prototype has 15'7" door openings). The required 4/4 ends are included in the kit, and I happen to have two pairs of 8' doors of the proper configuration (but of unknown provenance -- maybe Details West). But closer examination of the photo showed 5 panels to the right of the doors and three to the left. That is not possible with a ten- panel car like the Branchline kit. You get five panels to the right and less than three to the left, and doors too far to the left in my estimation . . .The Red Caboose car has the 3+5 panel arrangement, though its doors are too narrow (they can be replaced, but that will overlap the panels). Another problem is that the 4-4 ends are sharp-corner Dreadnaught. The InterMountain 12-panel car is likely a better bet. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Re: The B&O Modeler - September/October 2010
Benjamin Hom
Morgan Bilbo wrote:
"I see the Sept/Oct 2010 issue as Vol 6 #4. ??? They may not have published anything after that." Another typo. It will be fixed tonight. Ben Hom |
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Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars]
Don
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The availability of Archer rivets has made it -so- much easier now to scratchbuild your own box car sides! Roofs and ends are available. Why not take a whack at it? Tim O'Connor Don Worthy wrote: |
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Re: The B&O Modeler - September/October 2010
PennsyNut <pennsynut@...>
On 4,08 2011 9:58 AM, Paul Greenwald wrote:
Ben -Funny* *I see the Sept/Oct 2010 issue as Vol 6 #4. ??? They may not have published anything after that. Morgan Bilbo Ferroequinologist SPF PRRTHS #1204 |
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Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars]
Dave Sarther
Rich,
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Take a look at Accurail's 40' plug door/sliding door models. I got a few kits on e-bay about a month ago. You'll need to do some modification to the kit. But at least these models have the 3 panels to the leftside and five panels to the right. Some careful removal of the side ladders and replacement of the car ends, as well as, cutting out the 8' plug door on the left of the 6' sliding door will be necessary to get to where you want to go, but I think you'll be very pleased with the results I'm currently working on a few plug door/ sliding door models for my RR using this model as a starting point and replacing parts. I'll use the 8 rung Branchline ladders (correct for CB&Q, GN, NP and SP&S cars), the Branchline 4/4 Early Improved Dreadnaught ends (Branchline 5E ) and some other grab detail remodeling on the left car side as improvements. Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ sartherdj@... -----Original Message-----
From: richtownsend@... To: STMFC@... Sent: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 9:37 am Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars] Well, my first thought after glancing at the photo in RPC #6 was to use a Branchline 40' kit and add two 8" doors (the prototype has 15'7" door openings). The required 4/4 ends are included in the kit, and I happen to have two pairs of 8' doors of the proper configuration (but of unknown provenance -- maybe Details West). But closer examination of the photo showed 5 panels to the right of the doors and three to the left. That is not possible with a ten-panel car like the Branchline kit. You get five panels to the right and less than three to the left, and doors too far to the left in my estimation. So then I thought the Intermountain 12-panel car would be good. I have an Intermountain kit that I need to strip since it is a foobie. Putting the doors on that car's side would give you the desired five panels to the right, but about 3.5 to the left. I though about using two 7-foot doors and maybe just ignoring the fact that a fourth panel would appear w here only three are prototypical, but even that didn't leave a full fourth panel: a fool's errand anyway since it involves using unprototypical doors to get increased deviation from the prototype's panel arrangement. I may just do it with the 8' doors anyway and ignore the extra half panel. Close enough and all. I did all this before work this morning while waiting for my wife to get ready to go. I'll take a closer look tonight when I go down into the cave for some quality modeling time. Maybe the Branchline kit would work better than the Intermountain in the sense of which error is more acceptable. Richard Townsend Lincoln City, Oregon -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> To: STMFC <STMFC@...> Sent: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:11 am Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars] Frank Fertitta wrote: As to the original question of what cars would make credible models,That McKeen car has improved Dreadnaught ends and a diagonal panel roof. At least the green MKT cars, which were shown in RP CYC vol. 6, were built in 1945, thus unlikely to have either of the salient features of the McKeen model. The Red Caboose 40' DD car with W-corner-post ends might be a better choice. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars]
Thomas Dempsey <thmsdmpsy@...>
They give you a chance to practice your scratchbuilding skills. Tom Dempsey
________________________________ From: Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars] Don Worthy wrote: "So with no decent model, what good are decals?" Your question is as old as the hobby and can be seen in the catalogs of Champ, Herald King, and Walthers! Ben Hom [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars]
Richard Townsend
Well, my first thought after glancing at the photo in RPC #6 was to use a Branchline 40' kit and add two 8" doors (the prototype has 15'7" door openings). The required 4/4 ends are included in the kit, and I happen to have two pairs of 8' doors of the proper configuration (but of unknown provenance -- maybe Details West). But closer examination of the photo showed 5 panels to the right of the doors and three to the left. That is not possible with a ten-panel car like the Branchline kit. You get five panels to the right and less than three to the left, and doors too far to the left in my estimation. So then I thought the Intermountain 12-panel car would be good. I have an Intermountain kit that I need to strip since it is a foobie. Putting the doors on that car's side would give you the desired five panels to the right, but about 3.5 to the left. I though about using two 7-foot doors and maybe just ignoring the fact that a fourth panel would appear where only three are prototypical, but even that didn't leave a full fourth panel: a fool's errand anyway since it involves using unprototypical doors to get increased deviation from the prototype's panel arrangement. I may just do it with the 8' doors anyway and ignore the extra half panel. Close enough and all. I did all this before work this morning while waiting for my wife to get ready to go. I'll take a closer look tonight when I go down into the cave for some quality modeling time. Maybe the Branchline kit would work better than the Intermountain in the sense of which error is more acceptable.
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Richard Townsend Lincoln City, Oregon -----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> To: STMFC <STMFC@...> Sent: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:11 am Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: What second photo (MKT box express cars] Frank Fertitta wrote: As to the original question of what cars would make credible models,That McKeen car has improved Dreadnaught ends and a diagonal panel roof. At least the green MKT cars, which were shown in RP CYC vol. 6, were built in 1945, thus unlikely to have either of the salient features of the McKeen model. The Red Caboose 40' DD car with W-corner-post ends might be a better choice. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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