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Re: Resin kits on eBay

Allen Cain <allencain@...>
 

Keep in mind that Ebay collects its fees based on the final SALES price.
S&H costs are not subject to their fees. So you often see what looks to be
a VERY good deal before you look at the S&H.



Buyers should look at the total DELIVERED cost and decide if they want to
trust someone who is cheating Ebay out of fees, as attractive as that may
sound.



Allen Cain


Re: Sloss-Sheffield Steel & Iron

Jason Greene
 

No, it does not appear that the company cars were interchanged. The Companies did however interchange cars from the Southern, L&N, Central of Georgia, Frisco and Seaboard. I know CG got Sloss coal from Flat Top and/or Bessie Mines but not sure where it was delivered by the CG. Southern had a branch to Flat Top at one point but pulled it up before the 50s it appears. Frisco had a brach that reached Bessie Mine from the west.

The railroad would have interchanged cars at North Birmingham to the above roads loaded with the following: Coal, Coke, Slag (Rock) Wool, and several types of chemicals from the coke process. North Birmingham had the Sloss Co. Coke Ovens (220 mechanical ovens), Chemical By-Products plant and Wool Plant. The served the now famous Sloss Furnaces, called City Furnace 1 and 2 then, on a line that ran into Birmingham. There were also two blast furnaces in another part of N. Birmingham. In 1954 or so the company built a fifth furnace on the same site as the ovens and chemical plant.

Lots of switching to do to say the least.

Jason


B&O wagontop

Jim Hayes
 

If Fox Valley offers an Undec, Speedwitch has a very nice decal set designed
just for the wagontop,

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


Re: Resin kits on eBay

SUVCWORR@...
 

Robert,

According to the staff at my local post office the regulations changed January 4th. Merchandise cannot be sent 1st class mail. So unless you lie on the customs form which is a Federal offense and carries a 10 year jail sentence (again according to USPS agents), you can no longer mail model railroad items as first class mail. The 4 lbs limit now only applies to which customs form you need to complete. The short green stub or the multi-page white form. The form is also limited by value as well as weight.

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
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To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tue, Feb 1, 2011 7:22 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Resin kits on eBay


Barry,



I have observed that the postage calculators on ebay (for items being sold

in the US) are geared soley to give the international shipping prices for

the USPS Global Priority rates. If the item you want to buy is going to be

under 4 pounds, there is another rate for parcels that can be used which is

called "First Class International" and is considerably cheaper.



Sometimes the seller wants to use the Global Priority service for insurance

reasons, etc, but I have never had a problem asking the seller to ship by

First Class International. Even when they have sent an invoice straight

away after the auction has ended and have quoted the Priority rate, I have

responded asking if they can reissue the invoice with shipping at the First

Class International rate. So far to date, the sellers I have dealt with

have obliged 100%. Some "switched on" sellers even offer the choice to

choose either rate. So my advice is don't hesitate to ask for this other

rate, either before the auction ends or after it. If you ask afterwards and

they oblige - great. If not, then the Priority rate is what you have to

accept.



My experience is that the Global Priory rate is just a massive rort.

Supposedly an item sent by this method will be delivered quicker than other

methods. The reality is that it takes the same time as normal Airmail. For

example, before the USPS came up with this shipping rate and also started

massively increasing its rates, normal Airmail to Australia where I live

has always taken 7 to 9 days. Now with Global Priority, that is supposed to

be about 6-10 days days and First Class International takes longer. In

practice, I've found both take about 7 to 9 days, so you are paying for

Priority shipping for nothing. The USPS must be making a killing from this

and from those people who are none the wiser.



Regards,



Robert Bogie

Melbourne, Australia



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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:37:21 EST

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There are some that want me to pay $32 to $34 for shipping to the UK. I

pass on them.



Barry Bennett

Coventry, England.













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Re: Resin kits on eBay

Carl
 

My personal experience has been that most Internet sellers (I've been doing eBay for almost 13 years) charge reasonable shipping and handling relative to their costs. While exceptions occur, these folks don't stay in business for long.

Concerning the $13.20 charge that's been cited in this thread--the current US Postal Service rate for a "medium" Priority Flat Rate box is $10.95. Fifty to $100 insurance costs $2.25. Just these two items bring actual shipping costs to the $13.20 cited. Add delivery confirmation, etc. and the cost goes up from there.

Additional seller costs such as packing materials, time spent prepping and packing, and gas (I can't get it for less than $3 a gallon) and travel time also come into play, but are frequently "written-off" as a normal business expenses.

So the guy who is trying to ship you a resin kit you bid $54 on and wanting to charge you $13.20 for shipping is not necessarily overchanging--he may only be making sure that it's packed in a suitably sized box that permits a lot of padding to be included and insuring it for what you paid for it to protect your investment.

Best Wishes--CARL

Carl G. Camann
Atlanta, Georgia


Re: Resin kits on eBay

william darnaby
 

I have sold built up resin (steam era freight) cars on ebay and quoted the priority mail flat rate. If it turns that the postage is actually cheaper without the flat rate, and sometimes it is, I will refund the difference.

Bill Darnaby


Re: Revamped TC and L&N kits/details coming soon

Bill Welch
 

The Wheeling & Lake Erie had cars with the same end as the Tennessee Central, but I do not know what kind of roof it had. I have a lousy print out from the Smithsonian Pullman collection that shows the roof but it is too light. Maybe someone on this list has an actual photographic print or knows for sure. Regarding the ends I thought on the TC/WLE cars the ribs wrapped around or lapped the sides of the end ever so slightly and were therefore
a little different that the "PS-0." Again the print out from the Smithsonian is just poor enough to not be definitive. This will not keeping me from buying the kit however.

Maybe Ed Hawkins will comment on these 1937 variations

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "SMMW" <jimking3@...> wrote:

I've received and evaluated all of the patterns, instructions and decal
artwork from Burl Rice. My immediate plans are to use his L&N PS-3 hopper
heap shields, TC/L&N chip hopper extensions and TC/L&N 40' boxcars patterns,
along with Freight Car Cyclopedia drawings, to create new patterns using 3D
CAD and rapid prototyping. All 3 items will be reintroduced as part of my
product line at the Savannah GA RPM meet on 3/25-26.



Part of the revamping will include a 1-pc body for the TC boxcar using new
roof and door patterns (but his PS-0 ends), separate underframe and combined
TC/L&N decals covering all road numbers. The chip hopper extension may also
be part of a 1-pc hopper body but I need to further evaluate that option.
The L&N heap shields will be separate parts (as Burl offered) that are
easily glued to a PS-3 hopper.



The photo-etched switch stand targets, chains and PRR caboose frets will
also be available. I have not decided how to address bringing back the TC
cabooses . doing so will be heavily based on potential market, so if anyone
reading this wants a 1-pc body kit of either/both cab kits, please reply
off-list.



I will also have credit card processing capabilities sometime next week,
according to my bank, for folks wanting to call in an order instead of using
Paypal, checks and MO's (which also remain other payment options).



Jim King

Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc.

Ph. (828) 777-5619

<www.smokymountainmodelworks.com>





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Re: Resin kits on eBay

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Robert Bogie wrote:
For example, before the USPS came up with this shipping rate and also started massively increasing its rates, normal Airmail to Australia where I live has always taken 7 to 9 days . . . The USPS must be making a killing from this and from those people who are none the wiser.
I may be wrong about this, Robert, but it's my understanding that overseas mail rates everywhere are controlled by the RECEIVING country. Australia has long been among the most expensive countries to mail to, as we know well with numerous book sales to Australia. OTOH, Europe and much of Asia and even South Africa are cheaper (mailing from California). We have always been told by USPS people that these foreign rates are set by the countries in question, not by USPS.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Resin kits on eBay

Rod Miller
 

On 2/1/11 3:26 PM, SUVCWORR@... wrote:

Get use to it. The USPS changed their regulations. Cars can no longer be
legally sent as 1st class mail. They are merchandise not a letter. They must
be sent parcel post ( 2 - 3 months deliver time) or International Priority
mail $30 - $40. Unless you want International Express mail which will be
close to $50 if not more.

Rich Orr

I don't think that is right unless the change occurred more recently
than two weeks ago. On Jan 23rd I sent a 2 lb. O scale car in a 16 x 6 x 6
box to Australia by air for $22.80 postage cost. Priority was a different
service.

Rod

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O Scale West / S West
2012 Meet is Feb 9-11
http://www.oscalewest.com/index.shtml


Re: B&O Wagontop

Mark
 

Are these made in China?  
Mark Morgan

--- On Tue, 2/1/11, rhammill <nhrr@...> wrote:

From: rhammill <nhrr@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: B&O Wagontop
To: STMFC@...
Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 7:25 PM
















 









I sent a message to Matt at Fox Valley. He confirmed that the model will have a Duryea underframe. He also said that if there's interest he can look into making some parts available. He has no idea whether they will fit other models.



He also said that the undecs might be available as a kit, but if not the floor is removable so it might be useful as a basis for an M-15 kitbash.



I'll go through the list of cars with Duryea underframes to see which ones have available models.



I'm not an expert, though, and I know there were several versions of the Duryea underframes over the years. so it would be helpful to get some additional information about which ones would be similar to the one on the M-53s.



In any event, it sounds like a promising model and I'm looking forward to it.



Randy Hammill

http://newbritainstation.com



--- In STMFC@..., Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...> wrote:

Apparently Matt at Fox Valley Models has announced a new B&O wagontop boxcar in N and HO scales.
It's not on the FVM web site as of this morning, but apparently details are included on the FVM Facebook page - which is something I can't access from work.
Thought someone on this list may want to check it out.
Marty McGuirk
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Re: Equipment Instructions for freight cars (UNCLASSIFIED)

Mark
 

Hello, Tony
Mansfield, Ohio   1914 started from Davey family(Mansfield Sheet and Tin Plate Co) Seven Open- hearth furnaces in the original plant with a floor wide for pushers and railroad cars. The gondolas carried lime, fusite and etc. Crane would pull them to the floor and shovel the load in a box or furnace. Tacky said he hated them because they were hard to open. Under that floor was a furnaces tunnels and pipes, further north they unloaded boxcars of brick and refractory supplies.
Wish had pictures from that old time. Now that building is storage and brick mason area. I remember all those tracks and it was something to see. This plant was not near a river! Two railroads were was on each side of our plant. B&O and PRR The PRR supplied the coal for the boiler plant along with sharing switching with the B&O. 
I shoveled out some gondolas back in the seventies. Started May 31, 1977.  Two EAF furnaces are in our plant. #8 and #9, I operate number nine, she puts out 135 tons every two hours. 
Might be too much but thought someone might like this.Mark Morgan

--- On Tue, 2/1/11, Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

From: Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Equipment Instructions for freight cars (UNCLASSIFIED)
To: STMFC@...
Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 1:31 PM
















 









Mark Morgan wrote:

Elden is correct. I work at a steel mill and years ago received
alloys and additives by rail. Those containers in gons were not
liked. The bno had hoppers with colored(orange) ends for ferro
manganese.


How many years ago, Mark? Things changed greatly from, say, the

early 1950s to the early 1960s as far as cargoes in covered hoppers.



Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA

2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com

(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...

Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: freight and passenger car roofs

Jim Pickett
 

I've had good results with Floquil Weathered (not grimy) black. I use an airbrush. At least in H.O. scale the texture doesn't show anyway.I guess you could use a brush.


Jim Pickett

--- On Mon, 1/31/11, Andy Harman <gsgondola@...> wrote:


From: Andy Harman <gsgondola@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] freight and passenger car roofs
To: STMFC@...
Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 1:49 PM


 



On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:39:08 -0000, mguill1224 wrote
This material, whatever the railroad called it, was not paint in the usual
sense of the word. Car builders had to use something that would expand and
contract with the wood and steel as the ambient temperature varied. Ordinary
paint has no flexibility whereas the roof cement did and does.
I've never tried to model roof goo, but obviously it's not something that scales down
very well. I've often thought that simply brush painting with flat black - like Tamiya
- would have the right general effect but could still end up looking too thick. It's
sort of like the wood grain dilemma. Your mind knows it should be there, but almost any
attempt to model it is way oversize. Of course when you have wood that is extremely
weathered (on the prototype), or roof goo that has had 10 coats applied, a little heavy
handedness on the model would be appropriate. But most of us aren't modeling abandoned
freight cars, or "as they appear in the museum".

Andy










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Re: B&O Wagontop

Randy Hammill
 

I sent a message to Matt at Fox Valley. He confirmed that the model will have a Duryea underframe. He also said that if there's interest he can look into making some parts available. He has no idea whether they will fit other models.

He also said that the undecs might be available as a kit, but if not the floor is removable so it might be useful as a basis for an M-15 kitbash.

I'll go through the list of cars with Duryea underframes to see which ones have available models.

I'm not an expert, though, and I know there were several versions of the Duryea underframes over the years. so it would be helpful to get some additional information about which ones would be similar to the one on the M-53s.

In any event, it sounds like a promising model and I'm looking forward to it.

Randy Hammill
http://newbritainstation.com

--- In STMFC@..., Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...> wrote:




Apparently Matt at Fox Valley Models has announced a new B&O wagontop boxcar in N and HO scales.



It's not on the FVM web site as of this morning, but apparently details are included on the FVM Facebook page - which is something I can't access from work.



Thought someone on this list may want to check it out.



Marty McGuirk







Re: Resin kits on eBay

robertb@smartchat.net.au
 

Barry,

I have observed that the postage calculators on ebay (for items being sold
in the US) are geared soley to give the international shipping prices for
the USPS Global Priority rates. If the item you want to buy is going to be
under 4 pounds, there is another rate for parcels that can be used which is
called "First Class International" and is considerably cheaper.

Sometimes the seller wants to use the Global Priority service for insurance
reasons, etc, but I have never had a problem asking the seller to ship by
First Class International. Even when they have sent an invoice straight
away after the auction has ended and have quoted the Priority rate, I have
responded asking if they can reissue the invoice with shipping at the First
Class International rate. So far to date, the sellers I have dealt with
have obliged 100%. Some "switched on" sellers even offer the choice to
choose either rate. So my advice is don't hesitate to ask for this other
rate, either before the auction ends or after it. If you ask afterwards and
they oblige - great. If not, then the Priority rate is what you have to
accept.

My experience is that the Global Priory rate is just a massive rort.
Supposedly an item sent by this method will be delivered quicker than other
methods. The reality is that it takes the same time as normal Airmail. For
example, before the USPS came up with this shipping rate and also started
massively increasing its rates, normal Airmail to Australia where I live
has always taken 7 to 9 days. Now with Global Priority, that is supposed to
be about 6-10 days days and First Class International takes longer. In
practice, I've found both take about 7 to 9 days, so you are paying for
Priority shipping for nothing. The USPS must be making a killing from this
and from those people who are none the wiser.

Regards,

Robert Bogie
Melbourne, Australia

Original Message:
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From: Barrybennetttoo@...
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:37:21 EST
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Resin kits on eBay


There are some that want me to pay $32 to $34 for shipping to the UK. I
pass on them.

Barry Bennett
Coventry, England.


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Narrow End Design of Offset Side Hopper Cars

bob_karig <karig@...>
 

I've noticed that some folks are having difficulty describing the narrow end designs of offset side hopper cars. I've just uploaded a pdf file to the Files Section entitled "Narrow Ends" that should make it easier to identify the narrow end you're describing. It shows diagrams of each of the narrow end designs along with a description and the heritage of each.

Bob Karig


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Re: Resin kits on eBay

Dave Nelson
 

-----Original Message-----

It's real simple, if you don't like his price for shipping then don't bid on
his item. End of discussion.

Paul C. Koehler


_____

Yeah, it is simple, which is why I'm not bidding on the item.

Dave Nelson


Re: Resin kits on eBay

SUVCWORR@...
 

Get use to it. The USPS changed their regulations. Cars can no longer be legally sent as 1st class mail. They are merchandise not a letter. They must be sent parcel post ( 2 - 3 months deliver time) or International Priority mail $30 - $40. Unless you want International Express mail which will be close to $50 if not more.

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Barrybennetttoo@...
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tue, Feb 1, 2011 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Resin kits on eBay


There are some that want me to pay $32 to $34 for shipping to the UK. I

pass on them.



Barry Bennett

Coventry, England.













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Re: Resin kits on eBay

Benjamin Hom
 

Paul C. Koehler wrote:
"It's real simple, if you don't like his price for shipping then don't bid
on
his item. End of discussion."

One more thing - if you thing the postage cost is outrageously high, click
on the "Report Item" link on the right side of the listing page, and select
"Listing Policy Violations" from the first drop down menu and "Excessive
Shipping" from the second menu.


Ben Hom


Re: Resin kits on eBay off topic

SUVCWORR@...
 

Dave,

Depending on where it is mailed from that may be a legit cost. Priority mail rates went up on January 4th for anything beyond one postal zone. If the seller is using the Ebay calculator and adds the cost of insurance and track both now required by Ebay or the dealer needs to eat the cost of lost mail damaged mail etc. All combined makes the shipping costs much higher than previously.

Rich Orr

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To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Tue, Feb 1, 2011 2:33 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Resin kits on eBay


Not meaning to get too far off course here. what the heck is going on w/

freight shipment prices from eBay sellers of resin kits? There's a

Speedwitch kit on eBay right now. guy wants $13.20 to ship one small,

lightweight cardboard box with a few bits of resin inside.







If it was sent in a period REA Express BX boxcar, spotted by a steam

locomotive, at some preserved depot where I could watch it all, yeah, then

it would be reasonable. But USPS to my mailbox? Uhhh, I don't think so.







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