Although I made (and received) my final order from Champ,
I neglected to make a copy of the web site!! There was a heck
of a lot of useful information in that on-line catalog,
including prototype information and important information about
the application of many of the decals.

If anyone knows Connie I think it would be great if she could
put the web site back up (without decal ordering/prices/etc) as
an important online modeling resource -- Champ decals will still
be around (not the company, but the actual decals!) for another
40 or 50 years; that online catalog has real value to us.

Tim O'Connor

Very interesting photos and useful, thanks.

SGL



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laakso
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In between working on truss rod boxcars and WFEX/BREX/FGEX truss rod
reefers, I came across these derailment pictures showing underbody
detailing! None of the NP truss rod boxcars derailed!

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1CFDD4E9-9E3E-479F-91B8-621220164566;type=102

gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
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Tom,
 
You can add B&M cabooses as equiped with the Chrysler truck. The shock is very prominent in photos.
 
Fred Freitas

Yes

Bill Welch

Bob,

Connie is swamped and you will receive it soon. I sent my first order in early AM on Saturday Sept. 18th and it arrived on this past Wednesday in the mid-day post.

I have two additional orders in, the last at 11:15 PM last evening, just under the wire! It never fails that you always overlook things when you try to get stuff out the door to quickly.

Best regards,

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...

Another source of cheap disposable tiny cups for mixing paint, plastic disposable communion cups. They are clear plastic so test
if you use solvent paints. Being disposable, just toss them after use. Your church may use them and could provide you with a small
number, or ask at the nearest Christian book store. Usually sold in 1000 count box for about $15-20. I saw on website that sold
them in a 500 count box.

I use bamboo skewers for stirring paint. Then later use them for uncoupling freight cars. I find the layer of paint offers a
little more tooth or grip when twisting in between the coupler faces.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org

I'm still waiting to see if the large order which I submitted online over a
week ago is processed. When I check my card online, they have yet to put
the charge through. However, as their website indicates, they are
overwhelmed with orders at the moment, so I'll just wait and see before
contacting them to check its progress. There is clearly no point contacting
them just yet, as they'll be flat out.

I absolutely agree with you Denny, as they will certainly be missed and
leave a "hole" in the market that needs to be filled.

Regards,

Robert Bogie
Melbourne, Australia

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From: Denny Anspach danspach@...
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:49:28 -0500
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Finis


My last order from Champ arrived today, promptly, and with minimal shipping
costs (no "handling" fees, or 1/4 oz. items shipped in large Priority Mail
boxes).

I just checked the Champ Decals web site, and today they closed their
doors for good, apparently with a fair inventory still in hand I have
some decals, or at least their envelopes from the days 50+ years ago when
they were in Cleveland, and then San Jose (Max Gray). I regret seeing a
company that has served us so well and so long, just disappear. For those
dwindling number of us who continue to paint and detail steam locomotives,
it is especially sad inasmuch as no one has yet stepped in to fill this
very narrow, but essential modeling market.

Denny

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Sacramento





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Bill and Rich,

I will also second that motion! Also, I just received the flyer for Tahoe's latest new truck! A 70-Ton A-3 Ride Control truck, spring-plankless, with the 2-3-2 spring package. Brian is offering these for only $7.50 with or without semi-scale wheelsets. The usual tour-de-force that he is known for. All I can say is WOW!

Tom Olsen
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479

We need both the 30(?)and 40(?) tonners, as made by Central Valley. Used on
many 1880-1910 freight cars, including Western Union Service Trains (many of
which were still around into the '70s!), as well as tender trucks.

Max Robin

My last order from Champ arrived today, promptly, and with minimal shipping costs (no "handling" fees, or 1/4 oz. items shipped in large Priority Mail boxes).

I just checked the Champ Decals web site, and today they closed their doors for good, apparently with a fair inventory still in hand I have some decals, or at least their envelopes from the days 50+ years ago when they were in Cleveland, and then San Jose (Max Gray). I regret seeing a company that has served us so well and so long, just disappear. For those dwindling number of us who continue to paint and detail steam locomotives, it is especially sad inasmuch as no one has yet stepped in to fill this very narrow, but essential modeling market.

Denny

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Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento

Besides frequent application to General American box cars I
just noticed that first box car page of the 1953 CBC has a
photo of DL&W 10039, a 1950 Magor built 40' box car -- and
what do you know? Chrysler trucks! This is the earliest car
I've seen with these trucks.

There's a good photo of the plain bearing Chrysler FR-5E on
page 977 of the 1953 CBC too, and a drawing for the roller
bearing version on page 981.

Anyone ever compiled a list of all the cars equipped with the
Chrysler-patent trucks?

Tim O'Connor

Getting hard to find Fox Trucks .... my vote.

Skip Luke


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Sorry for the inadvertent post.
Norm Larkin

All 70-ton trucks had 6x11 inch journals. Pennsy liked these A-3 trucks.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV

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Brian,

What other railroads used the A-3 70-ton Ride Control truck other than
SP and the ATSF?

Railroads that I know of are AA, ACL, ATSF, B&M, B&O, C&EI, CofG, CB&Q, CGW, CNJ, CNW, CRR, D&H, D&RGW, DL&W, DT&I, EJ&E, Erie, GM&O, GN, IC, KCS, L&A, L&N, LV, Monon, M&StL, MEC, MILW, MKT, MP, N&W, NC&StL, NH, NKP, NP, NYC, P&LE, PFE, PM, PM, PRR, RI, SAL, SL-SF, SOO, SP, SP&S, SSW, T&NO, UP, Wabash, WM, and WP.

Are you considering manufacturing a 70-ton solid bearing trucks for an
earlier design say from the 1940s?

I consider a lot of trucks <g>. But there's only so much time.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV

Depending on the journal size, these may be usable for a number of PRR trucks.

Rich Orr

Brain,

What other railroads used the A-3 70-ton Ride Control truck other than
SP and the ATSF?

Are you considering manufacturing a 70-ton solid bearing trucks for an
earlier design say from the 1940s?

Bob Witt


Brian Leppert wrote:

Santa Fe freight cars built with 70-ton A-3 Ride Control trucks

included

60' flat cars, class FT-7

GS gons classes GA-82, 84, 87, 92, and 96

mill gon classes GA-68, 69, 70, 80, 87, 91, 97 and 103

ballest gons classes GA-74 and 83

hopper classes GA-66, 73, 81, 86, 100 and 109

covered hopper classes GA-65, 67, 71, 75, 88, 90, 94, 101, 105, 110

and 111

Bill, Southern Pacific cars that used the 70-ton A-3 Ride Control

trucks included hoppers of H-70-7, 9, 11, 13, 15 and 17 classes, covered
hoppers of H-70-8, 10, 12, 14, 16 and 18 classes, gons of G-70-7, 8 and
11 classes, and flat car class F-70-10.

The Santa Fe book I need to look at is out at work, and I'm not.

There are only very minor differences between A-3 trucks made by the

different foundries (ASF, Scullin, Buckeye, etc.) My HO truck has
Scullin's foundry mark and the raised "ride control" lettering across
the top of the face, rather than across the spring seat lip.

Plans for 250-ton Bucyrus-Erie wreckers were in the July 1966 issue of Model Railroader.

John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL

I want to model one of the SAL's 200 ton BE wreck cranes. The Athearn and Bachman shells look like a fair start. bachman has the better boom and Atheaen the better carbody.

Does anyone know if plans for these derricks have been ever published?

Bill McCoy
Jax, FL