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Re: Window Glazing

Charles Hladik
 

Paul,
My experiences have been that it looks like "old" glass in structures
( I like that), it sorta sags. As to strength, I can't answer.
Chuck Hladik

In a message dated 1/10/2011 9:44:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
chris_hillman@... writes:




How good is the liquid window-glazing that you put in with a "tooth-pick"
(more or less) for like, caboose windows?

Does it dry thick enough to be strong against breaking and is it pretty
smooth, consistent in transparency?

Thanks, Paul Hillman




Chuck Hladik
Rutland Railroad
Virginia Division

Chuck Hladik
Rutland Railroad
Virginia Division



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Re: axle hung micro motor in HO

Tim O'Connor
 

Bruce

Recently I brought up the Brownhoist cranes on another list, and
was told that I was mistaken to think the steam-powered cranes were
self-propelled. I was told only dieselized (rebuilt) cranes were
capable. Not so? I Googled for Brownhoist catalogs (easily found)
and also looked them up in "Railroad History" but could not find
any definite answers about self-propulsion.

A crane ain't a caboose, or a passenger car, or a loco -- so it
must be a freight car! :-)

Tim O'Connor

Begging Mike's pardon, as this is really peripherally related to steam
era freight cars... but I need to post here to reach those who of you at
Prototype Rails asked for more information about the axle mounted
micromotor I had there that is destined to power my HO Tichy 120 ton
derrick. The motor and gears are from E-Flite (or Blade) and are item #
EFLH1066, replacement servo unit. A simple Google search with
"EFLH1066" will get you to the product right away. I mounted this on a
Reboxx 1.044 long axle with 0.088 treads in a Bowser 70 ton Andrews
truck (ie. their PRR "Crown" truck).

In addition, there are photos of the process of mounting the motor in
the "wreck derricks" folder of the PRRPro group on Yehaw (and yes, you
have to join to see them).

Finally, I have video of the truck moving on my test track, connected to
a small wafer battery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWLJ9WYFcuA&feature=BF&list=ULgXL96Jj2hhs&index=1
I hope to connect it directly to track power and even DCC eventually.

Before any of you credit me with genius (or insanity), I want to give Ed
Walters credit for the idea. He got me started with references to
english modelers doing this sort of thing -
http://www.clag.org.uk/axle-hung.html

Those of you interested in more details, please lets take this
discussion off STMFC!

Regards
Bruce


Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Bill Schneider
 

Gents,

Just arrived back from Cocoa late tonight. The samples arrived just before I left so I had no time to post shots. I am now posting some samples of the test samples to a new “Rapido Reefer” folder in the Photos section. They should be available as soon as they pass any moderation (after the hard time that I gave Mike this past weekend, that process might take a while...!)

Further photos and information including schemes and item numbers will be on our web site within the next few days.

Bill Schneider
Rapido Trains

From: eddie_walters
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 12:52 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach


I'm sure there are PLENTY of photos of this car...

The only problem is none (?) of them are online!

Ed

--- In mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Gjermundson" <npin53@...> wrote:

So far, there are as many pictures of this new car, as there are clear pictures of Bigfoot.

Aaron


axle hung micro motor in HO

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,

Begging Mike's pardon, as this is really peripherally related to steam
era freight cars... but I need to post here to reach those who of you at
Prototype Rails asked for more information about the axle mounted
micromotor I had there that is destined to power my HO Tichy 120 ton
derrick. The motor and gears are from E-Flite (or Blade) and are item #
EFLH1066, replacement servo unit. A simple Google search with
"EFLH1066" will get you to the product right away. I mounted this on a
Reboxx 1.044 long axle with 0.088 treads in a Bowser 70 ton Andrews
truck (ie. their PRR "Crown" truck).

In addition, there are photos of the process of mounting the motor in
the "wreck derricks" folder of the PRRPro group on Yehaw (and yes, you
have to join to see them).

Finally, I have video of the truck moving on my test track, connected to
a small wafer battery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWLJ9WYFcuA&feature=BF&list=ULgXL96Jj2hhs&index=1
I hope to connect it directly to track power and even DCC eventually.

Before any of you credit me with genius (or insanity), I want to give Ed
Walters credit for the idea. He got me started with references to
english modelers doing this sort of thing -
http://www.clag.org.uk/axle-hung.html

Those of you interested in more details, please lets take this
discussion off STMFC!

Regards
Bruce

Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL (war iggle! go tiggers!)


Re: Magazine index

Tim O'Connor
 

My own personal notes list on the B&M has over 60 entries from magazines,
covering only a few issues from 5 modeling magazines in the 1980's and 1990's.
That's largely why I mentioned before that a generic index probably is not as
useful to prototype modelers as they might wish it were. The problem here is
that many articles in magazines are not "about" the Boston & Maine but do
contain B&M information or useful photos of the B&M.

Tim O'Connor

At 1/9/2011 04:57 PM Sunday, you wrote:
Actually, if you search for "Boston and Maine" (without the quotes) you do
get 10 articles all tagged B&M. That is what lead me to discover this in
the first place. Note: it appears many reporting marks as keywords produce
the same problem.

Don Burn


Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Douglas Harding
 

Jack I was just sharing info I had received from Bill Schneider. He later
stated at Cocoa Beach that the cars were indeed built into 1941. As I am in
Florida I am not able to dig out #14 and verify the information. That will
have to wait until I return home.



Steve these are a very specific car produced for transporting meat. Rapido
appears to be rendering them as accurate as possible. As to MDT or NRC cars,
I do not know. Were any built by General American?



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: Magazine index

Don Burn
 

Actually, if you search for "Boston and Maine" (without the quotes) you do
get 10 articles all tagged B&M. That is what lead me to discover this in
the first place. Note: it appears many reporting marks as keywords produce
the same problem.

Don Burn

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Steve Haas
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 4:02 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Magazine index

Don Burn wrote:

"I've been trying it for a few days and find it frustrating versus the older
implementation. The index seems to have serious problems for instance in
the old index "B&M" found articles about the Boston and Maine, but the new
one spews 1892 references and the first one on the Boston and Maine is
number 20.

The lack of the keyword list, and the only providing 10 links per page are
also annoying when you are trying to track down an article with less than
full detail. It is better than nothing, but not up to the old form (which
had the cover capability and table of contents that Tim mentioned)."


****************

To which Tim O'Conner responded with:


"If you literally search on "B&M" (with double quotes) it gives an error.

If you search one magazine like Mainline Modeler for B&M (no quotes) it
finds a bunch of articles, and SHOWS you that B&M is a keyword for some
of the articles. But if you click on the keyword B&M it will search the
entire index again and give you the old 1,892 references as you said.

Definitely some kinks in the system! :-)"

****************************

I'd suggest those who find "kinks in the system" forward their examples to
Kalmbach for review and correction.

Specific examples of failures are much easier for the software developers to
fix if they have specific examples of requests that fail to return the
desired/expected data. Some problems like this can be fixed relatively
easily if the developers are given specific conditions that allow them to
recreate the error.

Others may not be so easy - for example, if a "B&M" keyword isn't set for an
article on the Boston and Maine, the search algorithm isn't going to find
it.

Situations such as that would require adding the "B&M" Keyword to any
"Boston and Maine" related entries. Updating all instances of Boston and
Maine data to include "B&M" as a keyword requires identifying all the
qualifying entries in the database and tagging them. That's data
maintenance and requires discovery time plus data entry time to correct
(Though might be fairly quick to resolve using SQL or similar tools if the
database is properly designed).

If folks find "shortcomings" in the search features of the index, send those
specific examples to Kalmbach - they can't fix them if they don't know about
them.

Steve Haas
Snoqualmie, WA




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Re: Magazine index

Steve Haas
 

Don Burn wrote:

"I've been trying it for a few days and find it frustrating versus the older
implementation. The index seems to have serious problems for instance in
the old index "B&M" found articles about the Boston and Maine, but the new
one spews 1892 references and the first one on the Boston and Maine is
number 20.

The lack of the keyword list, and the only providing 10 links per page are
also annoying when you are trying to track down an article with less than
full detail. It is better than nothing, but not up to the old form (which
had the cover capability and table of contents that Tim mentioned)."


****************

To which Tim O'Conner responded with:


"If you literally search on "B&M" (with double quotes) it gives an error.

If you search one magazine like Mainline Modeler for B&M (no quotes) it
finds a bunch of articles, and SHOWS you that B&M is a keyword for some
of the articles. But if you click on the keyword B&M it will search the
entire index again and give you the old 1,892 references as you said.

Definitely some kinks in the system! :-)"

****************************

I'd suggest those who find "kinks in the system" forward their examples to
Kalmbach for review and correction.

Specific examples of failures are much easier for the software developers to
fix if they have specific examples of requests that fail to return the
desired/expected data. Some problems like this can be fixed relatively
easily if the developers are given specific conditions that allow them to
recreate the error.

Others may not be so easy - for example, if a "B&M" keyword isn't set for an
article on the Boston and Maine, the search algorithm isn't going to find
it.

Situations such as that would require adding the "B&M" Keyword to any
"Boston and Maine" related entries. Updating all instances of Boston and
Maine data to include "B&M" as a keyword requires identifying all the
qualifying entries in the database and tagging them. That's data
maintenance and requires discovery time plus data entry time to correct
(Though might be fairly quick to resolve using SQL or similar tools if the
database is properly designed).

If folks find "shortcomings" in the search features of the index, send those
specific examples to Kalmbach - they can't fix them if they don't know about
them.

Steve Haas
Snoqualmie, WA


Re: Magazine index

Tim O'Connor
 

If you literally search on "B&M" (with double quotes) it gives an error.

If you search one magazine like Mainline Modeler for B&M (no quotes) it
finds a bunch of articles, and SHOWS you that B&M is a keyword for some
of the articles. But if you click on the keyword B&M it will search the
entire index again and give you the old 1,892 references as you said.

Definitely some kinks in the system! :-)

Tim O'Connor

At 1/9/2011 02:14 PM Sunday, you wrote:
I've been trying it for a few days and find it frustrating versus the older
implementation. The index seems to have serious problems for instance in
the old index "B&M" found articles about the Boston and Maine, but the new
one spews 1892 references and the first one on the Boston and Maine is
number 20.

The lack of the keyword list, and the only providing 10 links per page are
also annoying when you are trying to track down an article with less than
full detail. It is better than nothing, but not up to the old form (which
had the cover capability and table of contents that Tim mentioned).

Don Burn


Re: Magazine index

Don Burn
 

I've been trying it for a few days and find it frustrating versus the older
implementation. The index seems to have serious problems for instance in
the old index "B&M" found articles about the Boston and Maine, but the new
one spews 1892 references and the first one on the Boston and Maine is
number 20.

The lack of the keyword list, and the only providing 10 links per page are
also annoying when you are trying to track down an article with less than
full detail. It is better than nothing, but not up to the old form (which
had the cover capability and table of contents that Tim mentioned).

Don Burn

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim
O'Connor
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:05 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Magazine index


It seems to be much improved, actually, or it's been a long time
since I used it last. For example there are images of the covers of
the magazines issues. And then you can call up the entire table of
contents of that issue. That's a nice touch.

Tim O'Connor


I just tried the revived magazine index at
http://trc.trains.com/Train%20Magazine%20Index.aspx . It works! Please
extend my thanks to those who were responsible for bringing it back. The
index is a critical resource for those of us who do research before building
our models.

Regards,

-Jeff


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Re: Magazine index

Tim O'Connor
 

It seems to be much improved, actually, or it's been a long time
since I used it last. For example there are images of the covers of
the magazines issues. And then you can call up the entire table of
contents of that issue. That's a nice touch.

Tim O'Connor

I just tried the revived magazine index at http://trc.trains.com/Train%20Magazine%20Index.aspx . It works! Please extend my thanks to those who were responsible for bringing it back. The index is a critical resource for those of us who do research before building our models.

Regards,

-Jeff


Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

eddie_walters <eddie_walters@...>
 

I'm sure there are PLENTY of photos of this car...

The only problem is none (?) of them are online!

Ed

--- In STMFC@..., "Aaron Gjermundson" <npin53@...> wrote:

So far, there are as many pictures of this new car, as there are clear pictures of Bigfoot.

Aaron


Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

npin53
 

So far, there are as many pictures of this new car, as there are clear pictures of Bigfoot.

Aaron


Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Clark Propst
 

Bill, Doug told me it isn't the Armour reefer. So alls I need are the trucks to put under my M&StL 55000 sereis box cars.

If I'd have come to down CCB I'd have missed the blizzard Friday and the -10 temps...

Clark Propst

--- In STMFC@..., "Bill Schneider" <bschneider424@...> wrote:

Jeez Clark, and I thought that You of ALL people would be happy with the meat reefer. Hell, you didn’t even bother to come down to see it! I’m hurt.... ;>)

You missed a great meet. Thanks to Mike, Marty and the entire crew.

Bill Schneider


Magazine index

Aley, Jeff A
 

Andy,

I just tried the revived magazine index at http://trc.trains.com/Train%20Magazine%20Index.aspx . It works! Please extend my thanks to those who were responsible for bringing it back. The index is a critical resource for those of us who do research before building our models.

Regards,

-Jeff


Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

Eeeeeeeeek! I have to learn to read a post through. Pardon me...

I was hoping against hope that just somehow I could make produce reefers out of them...

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., "Bruce Smith" <smithbf@...> wrote:

Steve,

They are meat cars.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, Al

"Steve Lucas" <stevelucas3@...> 01/08/11 9:43 PM >>>
From someone absolutely ignorant of wood-sheathed reefer differences--

Were the cars modelled by Rapido's new model meat, or produce cars? And
were they similar to any MDT/NRC cars?

Thanks in advance,

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., "moonmuln" <jack.f.mullen@> wrote:



--- In STMFC@..., "Douglas Harding" <doug.harding@> wrote:

Here is the scoop: General American 37' Meat Reefer in HO. Doing the
version
built between 1937 and 1940 (not 1941 as reported by Bruce) with
wood sides,
ends and roof, steel underframe and tabbed side sill.
Doug and group,

URTC 5300 - 5499 built 3/41 and GARX 3800-4999 45 cars built 2/41
appear in the RPC 14 article. The GARX cars are described as having
Duryea cushioned underframes, and from the photos it appears that the
URTX series do also. Otherwise they appear to match the 1937-40 cars, so
here's a mild kitbash idea for somebody. Or are there other differences
that aren't obvious to me?

On a slightly diverging topic, I'm interested in the similar 41'
reefers produced by GATC contemporary with these 37 footers. I'd
appreciate any information on lessees and lettering (beyond the two
photos in the RPC article) that someone could point me to.

Thanks

Jack Mullen



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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Bill Schneider
 

Jeez Clark, and I thought that You of ALL people would be happy with the meat reefer. Hell, you didn’t even bother to come down to see it! I’m hurt.... ;>)

You missed a great meet. Thanks to Mike, Marty and the entire crew.

Bill Schneider

From: cepropst@q.com
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 11:46 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach


Have they offered a reefer paint scheme on the nasty looking huge cupolaed caboose yet? They've done about everything else....

Clark Propst





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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Bruce Smith
 

Steve,

They are meat cars.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, Al

"Steve Lucas" <stevelucas3@...> 01/08/11 9:43 PM >>>
From someone absolutely ignorant of wood-sheathed reefer differences--

Were the cars modelled by Rapido's new model meat, or produce cars? And
were they similar to any MDT/NRC cars?

Thanks in advance,

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., "moonmuln" <jack.f.mullen@...> wrote:



--- In STMFC@..., "Douglas Harding" <doug.harding@> wrote:

Here is the scoop: General American 37' Meat Reefer in HO. Doing the
version
built between 1937 and 1940 (not 1941 as reported by Bruce) with
wood sides,
ends and roof, steel underframe and tabbed side sill.
Doug and group,

URTC 5300 - 5499 built 3/41 and GARX 3800-4999 45 cars built 2/41
appear in the RPC 14 article. The GARX cars are described as having
Duryea cushioned underframes, and from the photos it appears that the
URTX series do also. Otherwise they appear to match the 1937-40 cars, so
here's a mild kitbash idea for somebody. Or are there other differences
that aren't obvious to me?

On a slightly diverging topic, I'm interested in the similar 41'
reefers produced by GATC contemporary with these 37 footers. I'd
appreciate any information on lessees and lettering (beyond the two
photos in the RPC article) that someone could point me to.

Thanks

Jack Mullen



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Yahoo! Groups Links


Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

From someone absolutely ignorant of wood-sheathed reefer differences--

Were the cars modelled by Rapido's new model meat, or produce cars? And were they similar to any MDT/NRC cars?

Thanks in advance,

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., "moonmuln" <jack.f.mullen@...> wrote:



--- In STMFC@..., "Douglas Harding" <doug.harding@> wrote:

Here is the scoop: General American 37' Meat Reefer in HO. Doing the version
built between 1937 and 1940 (not 1941 as reported by Bruce) with wood sides,
ends and roof, steel underframe and tabbed side sill.
Doug and group,

URTC 5300 - 5499 built 3/41 and GARX 3800-4999 45 cars built 2/41 appear in the RPC 14 article. The GARX cars are described as having Duryea cushioned underframes, and from the photos it appears that the URTX series do also. Otherwise they appear to match the 1937-40 cars, so here's a mild kitbash idea for somebody. Or are there other differences that aren't obvious to me?

On a slightly diverging topic, I'm interested in the similar 41' reefers produced by GATC contemporary with these 37 footers. I'd appreciate any information on lessees and lettering (beyond the two photos in the RPC article) that someone could point me to.

Thanks

Jack Mullen


Re: Rapido freight car update

Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
 

Eddie,

By all means keep talking to Jason and Bill. They are some fo the very few who
listen to a modeler's suggestions.
Thanks to many, there are more new types of equipment available for the US /
Canadian markets than would ever
see the light of day. My modeling interest was a major pipeline of reefers
moving east, so, I may have to divide the
tax refund with the wife to buy some of these new reefers. Keep the suggestions
flowing......................

Fred Freitas




________________________________
From: eddie_walters <eddie_walters@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sat, January 8, 2011 9:24:47 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Rapido freight car update

 
Phew, thanks Bill and Ed! The world is safe once again. I can get back to
bugging Bill and Jason about other ideas (right?)

-Ed

--- In STMFC@..., "Bill Schneider" <bschneider424@...> wrote:

Relax Ed....

They were built form 1937 â€" 1941, so at least some will be correct for your
era. Also, we will be posting paint scheme dates on both the web site and later
on the box labels.


An initial list of schemes will be on the web site some time later this week,
once I get back and recover slightly from Prototype Rails! Watch for more
detailed information in our next Timetable newsletter due out shortly
afterwards.

Bill Schneider
Rapido Trains

From: eddie_walters
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 5:43 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Rapido freight car update


1941!!!!!!! NINETEEN FORTY _ONE_!

Please pass on my disappointment ;) (as I model September 1940!)

Ed

--- In mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Smith" <smithbf@> wrote:

Ok folks,

Here's the bottom line. I held the test shot of Rapido's new car in my
very own hands yesterday! It is a 1941 built General American 37' wood
side reefer. Very nice car!!

Regards
Bruce Smith,
live from Prototype Rails, Cocoa Beach








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