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Re: Milwaukee convention report
Mike Brock <brockm@...>
More importantly...certainly more in scope [ hmmm. maybe I need to post the definition of the word? ]...did anyone notice any new or proposed frt cars? How about the Athearn SP MT-4 with shroud. Did they show it?
Mike Brock STMFC Owner
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Re: SAL XM-1 Boxcar (B4)
william darnaby
Thanks Richard and to the rest of you who replied. It was not the answer I was hoping for as I had already made up my mind that all I had to do is replace the four cross-bearers with two....a simple task with styrene. I would not have imagined that the B4 would have a different arrangement than the B3 and B5. In just playing with parts it looks as though I will have to lengthen or move the brake lever slot....maybe not such a bad deal after all.
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Bill Darnaby
--- On Sat, 7/17/10, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:
From: Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> Subject: Re: [STMFC] SAL XM-1 Boxcar (B4) To: STMFC@... Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 5:48 PM On Jul 17, 2010, at 2:45 PM, wdarnaby@... wrote: I am assembling a Sunshine SAL XM-1 box, kit 91.9 and it would seemBill, I'm sending you two detail shots of SAL B4s which clearly show two crossbearers aligned with the edges of the door opening. They clearly show the locations of the AB valve and reservoir but not, unfortunately, the cylinder. I'm also sending a detail shot of a B5 which clearly shows a single crossbearer centered under the door openings. It clearly shows the location of the AB reservoir though, again, not the cylinder. So apparently the kit underframe is correct for the B4s with wood doors but not for the B5s with corrugated steel doors. Richard Hendrickson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Digest Number 6359
Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
Pierre--
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I can hardly wait for the runway show! Might we suppose that Bill Schnieder is modelling a new vest or two? I hear the keys to the Moderator Jail jingling, but at least I'll have lots of company. Can I take tools, adhesive, my cheaters, and a few kits with me, please, Mike? I want to get a car or two finished... Steve Lucas.
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Re: Milwaukee convention report
Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
Vests, girls, a new Rapido STMFC, FOTFC shirts, and other tangenital discussions--uh, oh!
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I'm told that Bill Schnieder has been watching the discussions on STMFC that past day or two. He must be splitting his sides laughing at his suggested attire, and wondering about those vests and t-shirts! Steve Lucas. (Fully clothed, and staying that way, thanks. Now I'll try to go back to work on an SC&F tank car kit, if that's of interest to anyone...)
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Re: Digest Number 6359
Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
After sharing Tony's observation with a friend, he offered this possible explanation,
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Not gone at all. Everybody's just waiting for the new collection to be announced in Milan. Pierre Oliver
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Re: Milwaukee convention report
Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
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From: Richard Hendrickson They're sort of the duller male equivalents of the sexy female booth babes the aircraft and armor modeling companies have on hand at conventions . . . ----- Original Message ----- I've been to eighteen nationals and about half that number of regional IPMS or AMPS conventions and I recall *one* - *ONE* - woman who was at a booth in a purely eye candy role. This is easy to remember as I've seen about 25 women total in booths, mostly wives and girlfriends of the men. You must have gone to the east meeting room rather than west after walking under the show banner. KL
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Re: Hercules Powder tankcar et al.
Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
I used to work for Hercules. They were formed around 1905 by the break-up of DuPont's monopoly on explosives. They made gunpowder, blasting powder, dynamite and other explosives. During WW II they operated several explosive/ammunition plants for the Government. After the war they became involved in the rocket industry and were still making them until they were sold/spun-off/bought out by Alliant TechSystems post-1989. They also had large industrial chemical and plastics businesses. I think now they just make specialty chemicals.
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. . . And further looking finds this article mentiong some business areas and chemicals: http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Hercules-Inc-Company-History.html KL
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From: Gatwood, Elden J SAD I had done some research on Hercules Powder and predecessors some time ago, and had only been able to find out info that they made industrial solvents and resins, most or all of which was shipped in either 103's or 104's. I am unaware of any pressurized tanks they had painted, or products that would have required same. Some of the other cars are also painted as liquid chlorine cars, whioch was also not shipped in big 105's, AFAIK.
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Re: Digest Number 6359
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Jim Dalberg wrote:
Re:Convention and Vests:Well, there was no evidence in the crowd of attendees that he was selling any. Maybe they're only worn in private now <g>. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Milwaukee convention report
glgpat@...
An amazing observation was made at the Milwaukee NMRA convention last week.
Only a single individual wearing the traditional "vest" with a patch collection was spotted. Tony, There weren't a whole lot of other people spotted in Milwaukee last week either. Especially not at the show in a venue that close to Chicago. I didn't see a single vestie at the show. Pat Wilkinson
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Re: Milwaukee convention report
Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
GUYZ,
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Do any of you want to see Bill "scantilly clad" at the next meet? Fred Freitas
--- On Mon, 7/19/10, pullmanboss <tcmadden@q.com> wrote:
From: pullmanboss <tcmadden@q.com> Subject: [STMFC] Re: Milwaukee convention report To: STMFC@... Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 5:26 PM Richard Hendrickson wrote: In any case, trying to get more than "huh?" from theBill Schneider - Rapido's "Booth Babe". Tom Madden [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Milwaukee convention report
pullmanboss <tcmadden@...>
Richard Hendrickson wrote:
In any case, trying to get more than "huh?" from theBill Schneider - Rapido's "Booth Babe". Tom Madden
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Re: Milwaukee convention report
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Richard Hendrickson wrote:
In any case, trying to get more than "huh?" from the booth reps is bound to be a waste of time, as they are sales guys whoVery true, as I'm well aware. But there were REAL booth babes at a couple of the vendor locations, kind of a surprise in some ways, but after all, this is a 99% male hobby. Or at least it is at the NMRA. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Milwaukee convention report
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Scott Pitzer wrote:
Perhaps there are some prototype modelers (for whom a 50' box car is as short as they come, and "Fallen Flag" means Conrail) who snicker at the "shirties" aka Friends of the Freight Car (and other similar group names.)Perhaps so. But some of them have "shirty" attire too, Scott. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Milwaukee convention report
Richard Hendrickson
On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Anthony Thompson wrote:
...BTW, I meant to mention that WalthersAt the time the development work was done for the Life-Like/Walthers P2K 10K gal. insulated tank car, there was some discussion about doing an 8K gal. equivalent, but there simply were not enough prototypes to justify tooling it. Insulated cars were not built in large numbers during the 1920s, when AC&F was turning out the Type 21s, and though some Type 21 ICC-103s had insulation and jacketing added by their owners in later years, there was no standard practice for doing so and thus a lot of variation among the prototype cars. Give Bill Wischer and his colleagues some credit; they did consider modeling the smaller insulated tanks but, wisely, I think, elected not to do so. In any case, trying to get more than "huh?" from the booth reps is bound to be a waste of time, as they are sales guys who typically know less than nothing about either prototype research or model R&D. They're sort of the duller male equivalents of the sexy female booth babes the aircraft and armor modeling companies have on hand at conventions, who also are entirely ignorant but much more decorative. Richard Hendrickson
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Re: Milwaukee convention report
Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
Tom,
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wear it grocery shopping with your honey; when she sees how many people understand it, she will think you are a very popular person ! My wife has gotten used to an assortment of PRR shirts, and they never fail to start a conversation. Made some very good friends that way, too. Fred Freitas
--- On Mon, 7/19/10, pullmanboss <tcmadden@q.com> wrote:
From: pullmanboss <tcmadden@q.com> Subject: [STMFC] Re: Milwaukee convention report To: STMFC@... Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 3:38 PM Perhaps there are some prototype modelers (for whom a 50' box car is as short as they come, and "Fallen Flag" means Conrail) who snicker at the "shirties" aka Friends of the Freight Car (and other similar group names.)Touché! My black FOFC and coach green SP Society golf shirts are very subdued, but the orange shirt I received as a clinician at the Santa Fe Society's Amarallo convention is something else entirely. My wife will not permit me to wear it in public, unless I get a job as a traffic cone. Guess convention shirts are like bridesmaid's dresses - wear once and bury. Tom Madden
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Re: Milwaukee convention report
Randy Williamson
I did not get a clinician shirt at Milwaukee. I wore my Ry-Opsig shirt.
Randy Williamson www.prrfreight.com Quoting pullmanboss : > Perhaps there are some prototype modelers (for whom a 50' box car is as short as they come, and "Fallen Flag" means Conrail) who snicker at the "shirties" aka Friends of the Freight Car (and other similar group names.) Scott PitzerTouché! My black FOFC and coach green SP Society golf shirts are very subdued, but the orange shirt I received as a clinician at the Santa Fe Society's Amarallo convention is something else entirely. My wife will not permit me to wear it in public, unless I get a job as a traffic cone. Guess convention shirts are like bridesmaid's dresses - wear once and bury. Tom Madden [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Milwaukee convention report
Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
Scott,
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I'll be a "shirtie" any day ! Fred Freitas
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From: scottpitzer2002 <scottp459@...> Subject: [STMFC] Re: Milwaukee convention report To: STMFC@... Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 3:14 PM Perhaps there are some prototype modelers (for whom a 50' box car is as short as they come, and "Fallen Flag" means Conrail) who snicker at the "shirties" aka Friends of the Freight Car (and other similar group names.) Scott Pitzer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Milwaukee convention report
pullmanboss <tcmadden@...>
Perhaps there are some prototype modelers (for whom a 50' box car is as short as they come, and "Fallen Flag" means Conrail) who snicker at the "shirties" aka Friends of the Freight Car (and other similar group names.)Touché! My black FOFC and coach green SP Society golf shirts are very subdued, but the orange shirt I received as a clinician at the Santa Fe Society's Amarallo convention is something else entirely. My wife will not permit me to wear it in public, unless I get a job as a traffic cone. Guess convention shirts are like bridesmaid's dresses - wear once and bury. Tom Madden
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Re: Milwaukee convention report
Scott Pitzer
Perhaps there are some prototype modelers (for whom a 50' box car is as short as they come, and "Fallen Flag" means Conrail) who snicker at the "shirties" aka Friends of the Freight Car (and other similar group names.)
Scott Pitzer
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Re: Digest Number 6359
Jedalberg
Re:Convention and Vests:
You all must have missed the vendor who had "blank" vests for sale. Jim Dalberg
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