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Rapido Reefer and Sergent Couplers

Ed <nprybiged@...>
 

Harding Douglas

Thank you for posting the photos of Rapido's new Reefer.

Was this car a prototype car of any railroad ? Rapido did
a go job the detail looks great. I would like to see
manufactors do the srirrups a little thinner. I know we
can always file them down, as I do.

Just an added note....I have purchased some Sergent Engineering
couplers and have put them on a couple of cars, man what
a differace they make. They will go on any model contest cars
I do. They operated with out a flaw. For someone staring out
I would recomend them. They will not interface with KD.

Again thanks for the posting

Ed Ursem
Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

Jason--

And you thought that we Canadian outline modellers were sometimes picky when discussing a Rapido model! ;)

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., "Jason Shron" <jshron@...> wrote:

See, Bill? I told you we should have stuck to Canadian prototypes!

-Jason


--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@> wrote:

It's a good choice for a prototype, but...

1. are you sure your photos show an HO model? maybe it's N scale?
2. tongue-in-grove wood sides don't have 1/2" gaps between boards
3. you might want to replace the Equipco brake wheel with something
a lot better http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page2021-2031-2041.htm
4. sill steps have already been mentioned. at least they look easy
to replace
5. do the trucks look weird to you? it seems like the journal box lids
are almost vertical or even inverted

Tim O'Connor
Re: Window Glazing

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

I like your tagline, Rob! Could be mine, too...

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., "Rob & Bev Manley" <robev1630@...> wrote:

Paul,
I liked to use it on the windows for my Alloy Forms model cars. You could put a contolled ammount in the front and rear window of a car, invert the body and let it dry to a proper curved windshield. To add to it's protection I coated them with Future Flor polish. Some of my cars are over 20 years old.
Rob Manley
Midwest Mod-U-Trak
"Better modeling through personal embarassment"
Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Douglas Harding
 

Schuyler, prototype photos were published in RPCyc #14. Photos are also
available from Bob's photos. While I have a few in my collection, I am not
sure I have any that I can "legally" post. Let me take a look. I found one
of the car leased to Estherville packing, which I have permission to use for
non-commercial applications. I have posted it to Bill's rapido reefer photo
album. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/1158312335/pic/list



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org
Re: Rapido photos at Cocoa Beach + The Shoe

Tim O'Connor
 

Sanshu, the ancient art of modelus interruptus?

Upon reaching the fifth floor, John and Denny disembarked
still engrossed in the conversation. John soon arrived at his door and Denny
proceeded on down the hall way. Arriving at his door, he noticed that a shoe
was being used to prop open the door. Being highly analytical, Denny was a
bit curious about the shoe but continued on into the room. His curiosity
rose as he then noticed two people in bed. One might, I suppose, wonder what
Denny thought then but, regardless, he quickly beat a retreat which
continued until he reached the elevator in which he proceeded to the 6th
floor where his room was located...presumably sans shoe.

Mike Brock
Rapido photos at Cocoa Beach + The Shoe

mike brock <brockm@...>
 

Doug Harding writes:


Aaron, I have just uploaded photos of the new reefer, to Bill's new folder. They will be here once approved: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/1158312335/pic/list
As many have probably noticed, having finally awakened from a dazed sleep [ I attended about 3.17 clinics and averaged about the same number of hours of sleep per night during Prototype Rails ], I have just approved Doug's photos of the new Rapido car.

The 2011 version of Prototype Rails did, BTW, add another item to the list of urban legends associated with such meets. Our very proper and extremely forthright and analytical member, Denny Anspach, apparently was deep into a conversation with John Greedy about a model [ one assumes ] while riding up in the elevator. Upon reaching the fifth floor, John and Denny disembarked still engrossed in the conversation. John soon arrived at his door and Denny proceeded on down the hall way. Arriving at his door, he noticed that a shoe was being used to prop open the door. Being highly analytical, Denny was a bit curious about the shoe but continued on into the room. His curiosity rose as he then noticed two people in bed. One might, I suppose, wonder what Denny thought then but, regardless, he quickly beat a retreat which continued until he reached the elevator in which he proceeded to the 6th floor where his room was located...presumably sans shoe.

Mike Brock
Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Jason Shron
 

See, Bill? I told you we should have stuck to Canadian prototypes!

-Jason

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

It's a good choice for a prototype, but...

1. are you sure your photos show an HO model? maybe it's N scale?
2. tongue-in-grove wood sides don't have 1/2" gaps between boards
3. you might want to replace the Equipco brake wheel with something
a lot better http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page2021-2031-2041.htm
4. sill steps have already been mentioned. at least they look easy
to replace
5. do the trucks look weird to you? it seems like the journal box lids
are almost vertical or even inverted

Tim O'Connor
Re: Window Glazing

cj riley <cjriley42@...>
 

<How good is the liquid window-glazing that you put in with a "tooth-pick" (more <or less) for like, caboose windows?



<Does it dry thick enough to be strong against breaking and is it pretty smooth,
I have used such products extensively, particularly on brass caboose cupolas that are inaccessible from the inside. It works,  but visually it is less perfect than clear styrene (about as much difference as clear styrene is from slide glass. I find it to be acceptable and have some that approach 30 years old. It is best if you use it on all windows in a given model, so there is no contrast with sheet material.
Less material is better and it is possible to remove excess by poking through with a tooth pick, removing a small amount. a shiny finish should be added after curing.
CJ Riley







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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Schuyler Larrabee
 

How about now putting up some photos of prototype versions?



I have to say that publishing photos of test shots like this is an acid
test, much like when Cliff Grandt learned that he needed to improve his
modeling skills by taking photographs of his work. It looked a LOT better
in person!



That said, I really like the scalloped ends on the boards, especially on the
ends of the car . . . they're very cute!

SGL



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Douglas Harding
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:07 PM
To: STMFC@...
Cc: Mike Brock
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach





Aaron, I have just uploaded photos of the new reefer, to Bill's new folder.
They will be here once approved:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/1158312335/pic/list

Thanks to Bill, I was able to take these images last Thursday, alas not
proper photo setup, so just some snapshots. Sorry I did not post earlier, am
having too much fun in Florida. Thanks to Mike, Marty, Jeff and the crew it
was a great weekend.

And thanks to Bill S, for what appears to be a great reefer. Note these
photos are of an earlier test shot. There is still much work that needs to
be done to the mold.

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org










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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Douglas Harding
 

Aaron, I have just uploaded photos of the new reefer, to Bill's new folder.
They will be here once approved:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/1158312335/pic/list

Thanks to Bill, I was able to take these images last Thursday, alas not
proper photo setup, so just some snapshots. Sorry I did not post earlier, am
having too much fun in Florida. Thanks to Mike, Marty, Jeff and the crew it
was a great weekend.



And thanks to Bill S, for what appears to be a great reefer. Note these
photos are of an earlier test shot. There is still much work that needs to
be done to the mold.



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org
Re: Window Glazing

Rob & Bev Manley
 

Paul,
I liked to use it on the windows for my Alloy Forms model cars. You could put a contolled ammount in the front and rear window of a car, invert the body and let it dry to a proper curved windshield. To add to it's protection I coated them with Future Flor polish. Some of my cars are over 20 years old.
Rob Manley
Midwest Mod-U-Trak
"Better modeling through personal embarassment"

----- Original Message -----
From: behillman
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 8:44 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Window Glazing



How good is the liquid window-glazing that you put in with a "tooth-pick" (more or less) for like, caboose windows?

Does it dry thick enough to be strong against breaking and is it pretty smooth, consistent in transparency?

Thanks, Paul Hillman
Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Tim O'Connor
 

Brian

I'll let you know how the Genesis Geep turned out... when I see them
three weeks from now at Springfield. I'm going in with low expectations
so as not to be too disappointed. :-)

Tim O'

One hopes that this is like the first photos of the Athearn Genesis GP7/9;
just a test shot with revisions to come. Timbo has nailed this one quite
well.

Thanks!

Brian Paul Ehni
Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

One hopes that this is like the first photos of the Athearn Genesis GP7/9;
just a test shot with revisions to come. Timbo has nailed this one quite
well.

--
Thanks!

Brian Paul Ehni

From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:18:01 -0500
To: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach







6. I forgot to ask -- did this prototype have a corrugated roof?

Tim O' (not getting enough Warmth and Sunshine in my diet)

It's a good choice for a prototype, but...

1. are you sure your photos show an HO model? maybe it's N scale?
2. tongue-in-grove wood sides don't have 1/2" gaps between boards
3. you might want to replace the Equipco brake wheel with something
a lot better http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page2021-2031-2041.htm
4. sill steps have already been mentioned. at least they look easy
to replace
5. do the trucks look weird to you? it seems like the journal box lids
are almost vertical or even inverted

Tim O'Connor


At 1/10/2011 08:41 PM Monday, you wrote:
Aaron, I have just uploaded photos of the new reefer, to Bill's new folder.
They will be here once approved:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/1158312335/pic/list
Thanks to Bill, I was able to take these images last Thursday, alas not proper
photo setup, so just some snapshots. Sorry I did not post earlier, am having too
much fun in Florida. Thanks to Mike, Marty, Jeff and the crew it was a great
weekend.

And thanks to Bill S, for what appears to be a great reefer. Note these photos
are of an earlier test shot. According to Bill, there is still much work that
needs to be done to the mold before ready for final test runs and production.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org








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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Bill Schneider
 

OUCH! Thanks Tim.... ;>)

To quote Doug, quoting me... “there is still much work that needs to be done to the mold before ready for final test runs and production.”

The cars shown at Cocoa were first round test shots of incomplete tooling. They arrived two days before I left fro the show and were hurriedly prepared by our factory to show the state of the model. Considering that they had not yet started cutting any tooling at Halloween, I was quite pleased. Still, such is the danger of publically showing samples!

As discussed at the meet, the sheathing is not yet finished, many details (including half of the textures such as rivets and most of the surface detail on the brake wheel) have yet to be added. Still, all who saw the model in person agreed that it was a good start.

As for the trucks, well... a well known (to both if us) modeler/manufacturer/rivet counter (and shaver) asked me how soon he could buy them for his kits, so I’ll let that speak for itself.

Stop by at Springfield and nit pick in person. ;>) See you there.

Bill Schneider
Rapido trains


From: Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:10 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach


It's a good choice for a prototype, but...

1. are you sure your photos show an HO model? maybe it's N scale?
2. tongue-in-grove wood sides don't have 1/2" gaps between boards
3. you might want to replace the Equipco brake wheel with something
a lot better http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page2021-2031-2041.htm
4. sill steps have already been mentioned. at least they look easy
to replace
5. do the trucks look weird to you? it seems like the journal box lids
are almost vertical or even inverted

Tim O'Connor

At 1/10/2011 08:41 PM Monday, you wrote:
Aaron, I have just uploaded photos of the new reefer, to Bill's new folder. They will be here once approved: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/1158312335/pic/list
Thanks to Bill, I was able to take these images last Thursday, alas not proper photo setup, so just some snapshots. Sorry I did not post earlier, am having too much fun in Florida. Thanks to Mike, Marty, Jeff and the crew it was a great weekend.

And thanks to Bill S, for what appears to be a great reefer. Note these photos are of an earlier test shot. According to Bill, there is still much work that needs to be done to the mold before ready for final test runs and production.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org




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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Tim O'Connor
 

6. I forgot to ask -- did this prototype have a corrugated roof?

Tim O' (not getting enough Warmth and Sunshine in my diet)

It's a good choice for a prototype, but...

1. are you sure your photos show an HO model? maybe it's N scale?
2. tongue-in-grove wood sides don't have 1/2" gaps between boards
3. you might want to replace the Equipco brake wheel with something
a lot better http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page2021-2031-2041.htm
4. sill steps have already been mentioned. at least they look easy
to replace
5. do the trucks look weird to you? it seems like the journal box lids
are almost vertical or even inverted

Tim O'Connor


At 1/10/2011 08:41 PM Monday, you wrote:
Aaron, I have just uploaded photos of the new reefer, to Bill's new folder. They will be here once approved: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/1158312335/pic/list
Thanks to Bill, I was able to take these images last Thursday, alas not proper photo setup, so just some snapshots. Sorry I did not post earlier, am having too much fun in Florida. Thanks to Mike, Marty, Jeff and the crew it was a great weekend.

And thanks to Bill S, for what appears to be a great reefer. Note these photos are of an earlier test shot. According to Bill, there is still much work that needs to be done to the mold before ready for final test runs and production.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org
Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Tim O'Connor
 

It's a good choice for a prototype, but...

1. are you sure your photos show an HO model? maybe it's N scale?
2. tongue-in-grove wood sides don't have 1/2" gaps between boards
3. you might want to replace the Equipco brake wheel with something
a lot better http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page2021-2031-2041.htm
4. sill steps have already been mentioned. at least they look easy
to replace
5. do the trucks look weird to you? it seems like the journal box lids
are almost vertical or even inverted

Tim O'Connor

At 1/10/2011 08:41 PM Monday, you wrote:
Aaron, I have just uploaded photos of the new reefer, to Bill's new folder. They will be here once approved: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/1158312335/pic/list
Thanks to Bill, I was able to take these images last Thursday, alas not proper photo setup, so just some snapshots. Sorry I did not post earlier, am having too much fun in Florida. Thanks to Mike, Marty, Jeff and the crew it was a great weekend.

And thanks to Bill S, for what appears to be a great reefer. Note these photos are of an earlier test shot. According to Bill, there is still much work that needs to be done to the mold before ready for final test runs and production.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org
Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

al_brown03
 

Nice looking car!

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@..., "Douglas H" <doug.harding@...> wrote:

Aaron, I have just uploaded photos of the new reefer, to Bill's new folder. They will be here once approved: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/1158312335/pic/list
Thanks to Bill, I was able to take these images last Thursday, alas not proper photo setup, so just some snapshots. Sorry I did not post earlier, am having too much fun in Florida. Thanks to Mike, Marty, Jeff and the crew it was a great weekend.

And thanks to Bill S, for what appears to be a great reefer. Note these photos are of an earlier test shot. According to Bill, there is still much work that needs to be done to the mold before ready for final test runs and production.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org
Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

Douglas Harding
 

Aaron, I have just uploaded photos of the new reefer, to Bill's new folder. They will be here once approved: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/1158312335/pic/list
Thanks to Bill, I was able to take these images last Thursday, alas not proper photo setup, so just some snapshots. Sorry I did not post earlier, am having too much fun in Florida. Thanks to Mike, Marty, Jeff and the crew it was a great weekend.

And thanks to Bill S, for what appears to be a great reefer. Note these photos are of an earlier test shot. According to Bill, there is still much work that needs to be done to the mold before ready for final test runs and production.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org
Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

RDG2124 <RDG2124@...>
 

Nothing like a tapered Swiss file to thin those stirrups down.


Evan Leisey
Bennett, CO

-----Original Message-----
From: Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Mon, Jan 10, 2011 1:24 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

  Fellows,
I've just had a look at the posted photos of this new reefer.
I must say I am impressed with a major exception with the stirrups. I really think that it's possible these days to create somewhat durable stirrups that don't harken back to Athearn Blue Box kits.
Is this something that can be improved upon before production starts?
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., "Bill Schneider" <bschneider424@...> wrote:

Gents,
&gt;
Just arrived back from Cocoa late tonight. The samples arrived just before I left so I had no time to post shots. I am now posting some samples of the test samples to a new “Rapido Reefer” folder in the Photos section. They should be available as soon as they pass any moderation (after the hard time that I gave Mike this past weekend, that process might take a while...!)

Further photos and information including schemes and item numbers will be on our web site within the next few days.

Bill Schneider
Rapido Trains
Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach

spsalso
 

"...roofs were wood with steel sheathing." (page 79, RP CYC 14). Just wondering.

Also causing me disillusion is the thickness of the various bits hanging below the sides (tabs and etc.) and the treatment of the areas where the grabs mount to the sides.


Ed

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