From: Andy Harman <gsgondola@...>
Subject: [STMFC] IMWX / DPH NKP Box Car - Viking Roof
To: STMFC@...
Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 12:45 AM
Looking for an easy project that I
can actually use, I dug out a kit I
bought quite a few years ago from Des Plaines Hobbies.....
the 1937 AAR box
car with Viking roof.  Of course the next thing I did
was try and find a
prototype photo.  Not a lot out there. These cars
apparently lasted into
the 1970s and even though assigned N&W numbers, doesn't
look like many ever
got them.

In the Kincaid / Morning Sun book on page 64, there is a
picture dated 1962
of a box car that is a dead match for my DPH kit, except...
it doesn't
appear to have a Viking roof.   I looked up
a few old STMFC discussions in
my archives and found this:
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarpdfmain.html
Which would indicate that the entire batch of NKP box cars
15000-15499 had
Viking roofs.   Other than the lettering -
the car is a match for the photo
except for the roof.

Also I guess some "AAR 1937" box cars were build in
1936.  Interesting.

Anyway, odds are if I were to forward date the 1962 car to
1975, it would
still be in the same paint but with more rust and grime, an
ACI label, and
a few other reporting mark changes.

Can anyone confirm if all of the cars in this batch did
indeed have Viking
roofs?  The model is #15366, the photo in the book is
#15330.  Also the car
in the photo has a steel running board - which could have
been replaced,
and the doors look like the Youngstown 6' doors that come
with the model,
but have two larger ribs.

I don't know the terminology... just testing my powers of
observation.  The
basic car, ends, even the sill is a match.  The model
has polling pockets,
the prototype does not.  Of course it would be really
nice to have a 1970s
photo of one of these cars to go by.  But TBQH, if I'm
going to have to
repaint the car anyway, I may as well just find an undec
RC/IMWX kit and
start from scratch.  But I need to definitely confirm
the roof, as well as
figure out what type of doors I will need.

I'm a 70s modeler but I need lots and lots of steam era box
cars, in
particular N&W, Wabash, and Nickel Plate
cars.   Hopefully someone has a
copy of the Kincaid book and can take a look and check my
vision.  Freight
cars often take just as much research as a diesel, and
prototype photos are
a lot harder to come by it seems.  Any thoughts,
comments, corrections,
suggestions?

Andy



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These cars carried RIRX reporting marks. Unfortunately, my 1-53 ORER
doesn't list this reporting mark. Can anyone advise which issue(s) do
contain a listing for these cars.?

Thanks,
Steve Hile

Steve, it is listed in the 1940 ORER. Rock Island Refining was purchased
in 1946 by the Koch family in Indianapolis and evidently operated under the
same name until the 1980's but the RIRX mark was gone before 1950.

Tim O'Connor


At 1/13/2011 12:18 AM Thursday, you wrote:

These cars carried RIRX reporting marks. Unfortunately, my 1-53 ORER
doesn't list this reporting mark. Can anyone advise which issue(s) do
contain a listing for these cars.?

Thanks,
Steve Hile

Rich, the RAILWAY AGE article has two photos of the cars, both of which also appear in the 1937 CBC. There's no mention of color in the article. I can send you copies of the two pages if you want, but they're from a bound volume here at the Colo. RR Museum so some of the text at the very left margin of the first page is dark & distorted where it dives into the binding. Let me know (off list at tcmadden at Q dot com) if you'd like the copies.

Tom Madden

--- In STMFC@..., "Richard Yoder" <oscale48@> wrote:

Gentleman.
I know this is an old subject but -
Does anyone know what color the Liquid Carbonic cars were?
Further.
In the Car builders Cyclopedia from 1937, pg 194, figure 165, there is
reference to a description of the cars in Railway Age August 10, 1935 page
179.
Does anyone have that issue of Railway age?

Sincerely,
Rich Yoder
7 Edgedale Court
Wyomissing PA 19610-1913
Call between 6:00 PM and 10:00 PM EST
610-678-2834
www.richyodermodels.com






-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Frederick Freitas
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 5:23 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Interesting car anybody have some back ground on it?

GUYZ,
 
You are thinking of the Mathison Dry Ice car offered by Laconia in the late
50's.
 
Fred Freitas

--- On Sat, 9/18/10, John Stokes <ggstokes@> wrote:


From: John Stokes <ggstokes@>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Interesting car anybody have some back ground on it?
To: stmfc@...
Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 3:49 PM



A guess would be Liquid Carbonic, and the second builder's photo on the page
clearly shows a build date of 1935. I think LC was shipped in cylinders, but
someone else may have more accurate information.

I seem to recall that Ambroid or someone of that era in HO offered a kit for
a similar car.

John Stokes
Bellevue, WA




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From: repairman87@
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:25:28 +0000
Subject: [STMFC] Interesting car anybody have some back ground on it?


 


I was surfing the net and stumbled across this site with this picture.

http://www.billspennsyphotos.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=82586961

Anybody know what its purpose was or what it hauled or time frame it use
used?

Thanks,
Scott




                         





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These cars carried RIRX reporting marks. Unfortunately, my 1-53 ORER
doesn't list this reporting mark. Can anyone advise which issue(s) do
contain a listing for these cars.?

Thanks,
Steve Hile