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Re: Funaro, huh?

Tim O'Connor
 

Tom

Indeed, and lest we forget: $270 for this baby.

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/9/9/8/8/8/webimg/399683032_o.jpg

Craftsmanship is it's own reward... I hope.

Tim O'

I see that Ted Culotta eBay'ed the Sunshine vinegar tank car featured in his RMC Essential Freight Car series for $412 yesterday, and Bob Smaus got just over $200 for a nicely done WestRail Santa Fe Bx42 boxcar. Excellent craftsmanship + well known modeler = high price. And deservedly so.

Tom Madden


Re: Funaro, huh?

Mark
 

I bid around $36 on that one! Better get my own built!

Mark Morgan

--- On Thu, 12/2/10, Brian J Carlson <prrk41361@...> wrote:

From: Brian J Carlson <prrk41361@...>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Funaro, huh?
To: STMFC@...
Date: Thursday, December 2, 2010, 1:38 PM







 









I was in on the Westrail kit for the History of it but dropped out at $40.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.



Cheektowaga NY



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pullmanboss

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:36 PM

To: STMFC@...

Subject: [STMFC] Re: Funaro, huh?



I see that Ted Culotta eBay'ed the Sunshine vinegar tank car featured in his

RMC Essential Freight Car series for $412 yesterday, and Bob Smaus got just

over $200 for a nicely done WestRail Santa Fe Bx42 boxcar. Excellent

craftsmanship + well known modeler = high price. And deservedly so.



Tom Madden





























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Re: Funaro, huh?

Brian Carlson
 

I was in on the Westrail kit for the History of it but dropped out at $40.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

prrk41361@...



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
pullmanboss
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:36 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Funaro, huh?





I see that Ted Culotta eBay'ed the Sunshine vinegar tank car featured in his
RMC Essential Freight Car series for $412 yesterday, and Bob Smaus got just
over $200 for a nicely done WestRail Santa Fe Bx42 boxcar. Excellent
craftsmanship + well known modeler = high price. And deservedly so.

Tom Madden


Re: Funaro, huh?

pullmanboss <tcmadden@...>
 

I see that Ted Culotta eBay'ed the Sunshine vinegar tank car featured in his RMC Essential Freight Car series for $412 yesterday, and Bob Smaus got just over $200 for a nicely done WestRail Santa Fe Bx42 boxcar. Excellent craftsmanship + well known modeler = high price. And deservedly so.

Tom Madden

--- In STMFC@..., "Pierre" <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:

Caveat emptor, baby! :-)

Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., "bpe" <behni@> wrote:

The box plainly says Westerfield. The same seller has eight other listings like this. Sheesh!

http://tinyurl.com/2cc425e

Brian Ehni


Re: Funaro, huh?

Charles Hladik
 

Just read the body of the ad, it states Westerfield.
Chuck Hladik

In a message dated 12/2/2010 6:21:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
thompson@... writes:




Scott Pitzer2 wrote:
Remember Chico Marx in "Horse Feathers" pouring out "one quarta
scotch... one quarta rye" out of the same big bottle?
This is partly a Prohibition joke (the movie was made in 1932,
before the end of Prohibition). A great deal of the bootleg hootch,
whatever the label on the bottle, was "manufactured" in various ways
(perhaps even in bathtubs), and the label typically told you nothing.
The saying was, "You can get the 'regular stuff' for one price, the
Scotch/Canadian stuff with an authentic label for double that price,
but it all comes outta the same vat."

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, _thompson@...
(mailto:thompson@...)
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: UP B-50-6 Information - I got the info I needed

Charlie Duckworth
 

Mike:
Am thinking if there were only 43 in 1951 by 1954 the B-50-6 were too much of an obscure car to be on a Mopac branch line in Missouri or were scrapped. Thanks for the quick note back.

Charlie Duckworth

Charlie, Metcalfe's UP Frt Cars shows 43 in the various B-50-6 groupings in
1951.

Mike Brock


Re: SP Conductor's book 1938-39

A. Premo <armprem2@...>
 

Not unusual at all.Very common in the Northeast.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: mike brock
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: SP Conductor's book 1938-39



Al, I can't speak to 1938-9 right now, but when I prepared for my clinic and
article [ will it ever appear? ] on the C&NW/UP/SP Fast Mail in 1953 I
discovered that a rather significant number of foreign cars...baggage,
express, and frt...operated on this train. Cars might be carrying anything
from dead bodies to newspapers. One interesting aspect is that it was common
for a car to travel from one large eastern city...like NYC...to San
Francisco without opening the car [ hopefully one with newspapers ].

I'll take a look and see what cars from southern locations might be
traveling on the Overland Route.

Mike Brock






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Re: UP B-50-6 Information

Charlie Duckworth
 

Frank:
There's no hurry; my backload of Westerfield cars to built is around 10-12 cars but I wanted to get one before Al's closes up shop. I recently finished up three Mopac stock cars, a B&O M15e and a DRGW 40' SS boxcar and they are a delight to build. The B&O car was just added this week to my Duckworth Freight car photo album.

Charlie Duckworth

--- In STMFC@..., FRANK PEACOCK <frank3112@...> wrote:


Charlie, How soon do you need this info? My copies of VBB are in storage but I'll be going there next week. I checked my numbers for 1948 (Oct. 1948 ORER) and there were at least 14 groups of B-50-6's back then. Several were were below 10 cars even then, the two largest series were OWR&N 13698-15847 (161 cars) and UP 77000-79500 (198 cars). Judging from what I see the OSL and LA&SL cars would be very scarce by 1954. FHP (Frank H. Peacock)

To: STMFC@...
From: omahaduck@...
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 13:10:46 +0000
Subject: [STMFC] UP B-50-6 Information




























I've been finishing up some Westerfield models and am thinking of ordering Al's B-50-6 1939 boxcar. Does anyone know how many of these UP still had in revenue service in 1954?

Charlie Duckworth


















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Re: UP B-50-6 Information

mike brock <brockm@...>
 

Charlie Duckworth writes:


I've been finishing up some Westerfield models and am thinking of ordering Al's B-50-6 1939 boxcar. Does anyone know how many of these UP still had in revenue service in 1954?
Charlie, Metcalfe's UP Frt Cars shows 43 in the various B-50-6 groupings in 1951.

Mike Brock


Re: UP B-50-6 Information

FRANK PEACOCK
 

Charlie, How soon do you need this info? My copies of VBB are in storage but I'll be going there next week. I checked my numbers for 1948 (Oct. 1948 ORER) and there were at least 14 groups of B-50-6's back then. Several were were below 10 cars even then, the two largest series were OWR&N 13698-15847 (161 cars) and UP 77000-79500 (198 cars). Judging from what I see the OSL and LA&SL cars would be very scarce by 1954. FHP (Frank H. Peacock)

To: STMFC@...
From: omahaduck@...
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 13:10:46 +0000
Subject: [STMFC] UP B-50-6 Information




























I've been finishing up some Westerfield models and am thinking of ordering Al's B-50-6 1939 boxcar. Does anyone know how many of these UP still had in revenue service in 1954?

Charlie Duckworth


















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Re: Funaro, huh?

Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Caveat emptor, baby! :-)

Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., "bpe" <behni@...> wrote:

The box plainly says Westerfield. The same seller has eight other listings like this. Sheesh!

http://tinyurl.com/2cc425e

Brian Ehni


Funaro, huh?

bpe <behni@...>
 

The box plainly says Westerfield. The same seller has eight other listings like this. Sheesh!

http://tinyurl.com/2cc425e

Brian Ehni


Re: SP Conductor's book 1938-39

SUVCWORR@...
 

The ACL/SAL historical society had NKP products produce the 666 in 2008. According to the flyer announcing the car it was routed ACL to L&N to CB&Q.

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
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To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thu, Dec 2, 2010 12:04 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: SP Conductor's book 1938-39




yer the expert buddy... you tell me! (prolly not the COLA or COSF)





What about that ACL combine #666, travelling mysteriously back and forth
between the Rocky Flats and the Savannah River nuclear facilities... Any
record of that car on the Overland route?
In what train?
Mike Brock






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Re: Pullman-Standard Archives

bob_karig <karig@...>
 

There is no listing of the elevation drawings. You just have to go through them one by one. The drawings themselves, mostly white on black, are about 24" x 36".

There are listings in their finding aids for some of the piece parts but nothing for the car's elevation drawings. The car drawings are organized by type car.

Bob


UP B-50-6 Information

Charlie Duckworth
 

I've been finishing up some Westerfield models and am thinking of ordering Al's B-50-6 1939 boxcar. Does anyone know how many of these UP still had in revenue service in 1954?
Charlie Duckworth


Re: Pullman-Standard Archives

tedander2000
 

There is a clue to the car you want. Get the Pullman companies freight car CD from Eric Neubauer (ericsrailcarhistory.com I think) and correlate the lot number with the information in his CD, well worth it. In parentheses there may even be a 5-digit number for the General Drawing number (SSC passenger cars start with numeral 1, then 5 digits in another listing). Then get in touch with us as the drawings can be found from that lot number since that is listed on the drawing and we use the same CD. The Penn State Hist collection in Harrisburg has the drawing journals and photostats of the "General Drawing" showing the car in 3 views. In many cases, we have the original linen tracing and other drawings needed to build the car up to the late 30's. sometimes later. Almost all drawings are in tubes and require extensive search. In addition of course we have other early builders including Haskell and Barker which is being transferred from tube to drawer in the correct numerical order. We now can be reached at pullmanlibrary@... and there is information on the IRM Pullman Library at irm.org. Hope to hear from more of you! Got lots on SP, Tony Thompson, as you know, and glad for all you do!
Sincerely, Ted Anderson, curator,
Pullman Library
Illinois Railway Museum

--- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

bob_karig wrote:
They are grouped by type freight car. Unfortunately, there is no on-
line listing of each drawing. You just have to sort through them
one by one.
Bob, do they have ANY kind of listing or directory of the
holdings in these drawings?

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: DVD Back Issues (was Magazine Index)

Tim O'Connor
 

Kalmback wrote:

"This item is a software product that you will need to install on your computer.
It is very user friendly and will have a searchable database for all issue text"


Jeff, you're welcome to spend $150 to find out how well it works.

Tim


Re: DVD Back Issues (was Magazine Index)

Aley, Jeff A
 

Tim,

Did you happen to find out if the text is searchable?

Regards,

-Jeff


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:58 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] DVD Back Issues (was Magazine Index)



I've been notified by Kalmbach -- the back issues are NOT in PDF
or other standard format. They're in some proprietary database form
and require a special app to view them. I'm sure this is just some
clumsy form of Digital Rights Management.

PASS!

Tim O'Connor "back to scanning back issues..."


Re: ADMIN: Re: Magazine Index

VINCE PUGLIESE
 

Here is another way (not PDF) to do things where everything is searchable:

http://books.google.com/books?id=3icDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA96&dq=model+railroad&hl=en&ei=ECz3TNaEAsP78AaRuYCRBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=model%20railroad&f=false


For you see, the contents of Popular Mechanics, Popular Science and other
magazines are available online via Google. Imagine having RMC and MR available
in this form?

Oh, and don't blame me if you don't get to that resin boxcar due to time spent
catching up on articles about jet packs, flying cars and moon buses and the odd
thematic article about things that ride on flanges.

.vp


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From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 3:17:17 PM
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Re: [STMFC] Magazine Index


One FILE per PAGE? Wow, that seems kinda silly...

I'm glad to hear it will be PDF -- Google Desktop knows how to
read PDF files, so I can transfer the DVD contents to my hard drive
and it will create a complete index for the entire database, searchable
on any word(s) or phrase(s).

UNLESS -- the PDF files are not searchable. It's possible to create a
PDF document that only has page images, not actual text. I have two
Car Builder Cyclopedias (1940 and 1957) that were produced this way.
They are ok to use like a print book but lack of search really limits
their usefulness.

The magazine index suffers from an arbitrary and extremely limited
set of "tags" chosen by the creators of the database. After buying the
original database myself circa 1991, and subscribing to updates, I
decided I had to create my own "notes" database myself (as many other
people here have done as well).

Tim O'Connor

I wrote Kalmbach an email asking if the DVD format is Acrobat
(PDF file) or something else. I will be greatly disappointed if
they chose to save the magazine files in some mysterious/proprietary
format -- mainly because in 10-15 years there may be no way to read
them, while PDF will likely be with us forever.
I asked them about this at Trainfest, and the plan is PDF files. It may be
one file per page, but with 2 DVD-ROMs full of the complete issues (ads and
all). They even considered selling a USB stick with the full contents, but
stuck with DVDs.

Planning for doing this for MR is still in the works, but clearly on
everyone's mind.

I wonder how they'll handle those multi-page fold outs in an
electronic format? Remember those awesome EMD advertising inserts
in the 1960's in Trains?
Everything scanned is in one standard page size increments, with no
particular attention to get everything in multi-page spreads to align
perfectly.

--
david d zuhn Saint Paul Bridge & Terminal Ry.
zoo @ stpaulterminal.org


Re: SP Conductor's book 1938-39

Tim O'Connor
 

yer the expert buddy... you tell me! (prolly not the COLA or COSF)

What about that ACL combine #666, travelling mysteriously back and forth
between the Rocky Flats and the Savannah River nuclear facilities... Any
record of that car on the Overland route?
In what train?

Mike Brock