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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach
Bill Schneider
Gents,
Just arrived back from Cocoa late tonight. The samples arrived just before I left so I had no time to post shots. I am now posting some samples of the test samples to a new “Rapido Reefer” folder in the Photos section. They should be available as soon as they pass any moderation (after the hard time that I gave Mike this past weekend, that process might take a while...!) Further photos and information including schemes and item numbers will be on our web site within the next few days. Bill Schneider Rapido Trains From: eddie_walters Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 12:52 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach I'm sure there are PLENTY of photos of this car... The only problem is none (?) of them are online! Ed --- In mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Gjermundson" <npin53@...> wrote:
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axle hung micro motor in HO
Folks,
Begging Mike's pardon, as this is really peripherally related to steam era freight cars... but I need to post here to reach those who of you at Prototype Rails asked for more information about the axle mounted micromotor I had there that is destined to power my HO Tichy 120 ton derrick. The motor and gears are from E-Flite (or Blade) and are item # EFLH1066, replacement servo unit. A simple Google search with "EFLH1066" will get you to the product right away. I mounted this on a Reboxx 1.044 long axle with 0.088 treads in a Bowser 70 ton Andrews truck (ie. their PRR "Crown" truck). In addition, there are photos of the process of mounting the motor in the "wreck derricks" folder of the PRRPro group on Yehaw (and yes, you have to join to see them). Finally, I have video of the truck moving on my test track, connected to a small wafer battery. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWLJ9WYFcuA&feature=BF&list=ULgXL96Jj2hhs&index=1 I hope to connect it directly to track power and even DCC eventually. Before any of you credit me with genius (or insanity), I want to give Ed Walters credit for the idea. He got me started with references to english modelers doing this sort of thing - http://www.clag.org.uk/axle-hung.html Those of you interested in more details, please lets take this discussion off STMFC! Regards Bruce Bruce Smith Auburn, AL (war iggle! go tiggers!) |
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Re: Magazine index
My own personal notes list on the B&M has over 60 entries from magazines,
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covering only a few issues from 5 modeling magazines in the 1980's and 1990's. That's largely why I mentioned before that a generic index probably is not as useful to prototype modelers as they might wish it were. The problem here is that many articles in magazines are not "about" the Boston & Maine but do contain B&M information or useful photos of the B&M. Tim O'Connor At 1/9/2011 04:57 PM Sunday, you wrote:
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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach
Jack I was just sharing info I had received from Bill Schneider. He later
stated at Cocoa Beach that the cars were indeed built into 1941. As I am in Florida I am not able to dig out #14 and verify the information. That will have to wait until I return home. Steve these are a very specific car produced for transporting meat. Rapido appears to be rendering them as accurate as possible. As to MDT or NRC cars, I do not know. Were any built by General American? Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org |
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Re: Magazine index
Don Burn
Actually, if you search for "Boston and Maine" (without the quotes) you do
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get 10 articles all tagged B&M. That is what lead me to discover this in the first place. Note: it appears many reporting marks as keywords produce the same problem. Don Burn -----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Steve Haas Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 4:02 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: RE: [STMFC] Magazine index Don Burn wrote: "I've been trying it for a few days and find it frustrating versus the older implementation. The index seems to have serious problems for instance in the old index "B&M" found articles about the Boston and Maine, but the new one spews 1892 references and the first one on the Boston and Maine is number 20. The lack of the keyword list, and the only providing 10 links per page are also annoying when you are trying to track down an article with less than full detail. It is better than nothing, but not up to the old form (which had the cover capability and table of contents that Tim mentioned)." **************** To which Tim O'Conner responded with: "If you literally search on "B&M" (with double quotes) it gives an error. If you search one magazine like Mainline Modeler for B&M (no quotes) it finds a bunch of articles, and SHOWS you that B&M is a keyword for some of the articles. But if you click on the keyword B&M it will search the entire index again and give you the old 1,892 references as you said. Definitely some kinks in the system! :-)" **************************** I'd suggest those who find "kinks in the system" forward their examples to Kalmbach for review and correction. Specific examples of failures are much easier for the software developers to fix if they have specific examples of requests that fail to return the desired/expected data. Some problems like this can be fixed relatively easily if the developers are given specific conditions that allow them to recreate the error. Others may not be so easy - for example, if a "B&M" keyword isn't set for an article on the Boston and Maine, the search algorithm isn't going to find it. Situations such as that would require adding the "B&M" Keyword to any "Boston and Maine" related entries. Updating all instances of Boston and Maine data to include "B&M" as a keyword requires identifying all the qualifying entries in the database and tagging them. That's data maintenance and requires discovery time plus data entry time to correct (Though might be fairly quick to resolve using SQL or similar tools if the database is properly designed). If folks find "shortcomings" in the search features of the index, send those specific examples to Kalmbach - they can't fix them if they don't know about them. Steve Haas Snoqualmie, WA ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Magazine index
Steve Haas
Don Burn wrote:
"I've been trying it for a few days and find it frustrating versus the older implementation. The index seems to have serious problems for instance in the old index "B&M" found articles about the Boston and Maine, but the new one spews 1892 references and the first one on the Boston and Maine is number 20. The lack of the keyword list, and the only providing 10 links per page are also annoying when you are trying to track down an article with less than full detail. It is better than nothing, but not up to the old form (which had the cover capability and table of contents that Tim mentioned)." **************** To which Tim O'Conner responded with: "If you literally search on "B&M" (with double quotes) it gives an error. If you search one magazine like Mainline Modeler for B&M (no quotes) it finds a bunch of articles, and SHOWS you that B&M is a keyword for some of the articles. But if you click on the keyword B&M it will search the entire index again and give you the old 1,892 references as you said. Definitely some kinks in the system! :-)" **************************** I'd suggest those who find "kinks in the system" forward their examples to Kalmbach for review and correction. Specific examples of failures are much easier for the software developers to fix if they have specific examples of requests that fail to return the desired/expected data. Some problems like this can be fixed relatively easily if the developers are given specific conditions that allow them to recreate the error. Others may not be so easy - for example, if a "B&M" keyword isn't set for an article on the Boston and Maine, the search algorithm isn't going to find it. Situations such as that would require adding the "B&M" Keyword to any "Boston and Maine" related entries. Updating all instances of Boston and Maine data to include "B&M" as a keyword requires identifying all the qualifying entries in the database and tagging them. That's data maintenance and requires discovery time plus data entry time to correct (Though might be fairly quick to resolve using SQL or similar tools if the database is properly designed). If folks find "shortcomings" in the search features of the index, send those specific examples to Kalmbach - they can't fix them if they don't know about them. Steve Haas Snoqualmie, WA |
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Re: Magazine index
If you literally search on "B&M" (with double quotes) it gives an error.
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If you search one magazine like Mainline Modeler for B&M (no quotes) it finds a bunch of articles, and SHOWS you that B&M is a keyword for some of the articles. But if you click on the keyword B&M it will search the entire index again and give you the old 1,892 references as you said. Definitely some kinks in the system! :-) Tim O'Connor At 1/9/2011 02:14 PM Sunday, you wrote:
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Re: Magazine index
Don Burn
I've been trying it for a few days and find it frustrating versus the older
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implementation. The index seems to have serious problems for instance in the old index "B&M" found articles about the Boston and Maine, but the new one spews 1892 references and the first one on the Boston and Maine is number 20. The lack of the keyword list, and the only providing 10 links per page are also annoying when you are trying to track down an article with less than full detail. It is better than nothing, but not up to the old form (which had the cover capability and table of contents that Tim mentioned). Don Burn -----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:05 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Magazine index It seems to be much improved, actually, or it's been a long time since I used it last. For example there are images of the covers of the magazines issues. And then you can call up the entire table of contents of that issue. That's a nice touch. Tim O'Connor I just tried the revived magazine index athttp://trc.trains.com/Train%20Magazine%20Index.aspx . It works! Please extend my thanks to those who were responsible for bringing it back. The index is a critical resource for those of us who do research before building our models.
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Re: Magazine index
It seems to be much improved, actually, or it's been a long time
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since I used it last. For example there are images of the covers of the magazines issues. And then you can call up the entire table of contents of that issue. That's a nice touch. Tim O'Connor I just tried the revived magazine index at http://trc.trains.com/Train%20Magazine%20Index.aspx . It works! Please extend my thanks to those who were responsible for bringing it back. The index is a critical resource for those of us who do research before building our models. |
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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach
eddie_walters <eddie_walters@...>
I'm sure there are PLENTY of photos of this car...
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The only problem is none (?) of them are online! Ed --- In STMFC@..., "Aaron Gjermundson" <npin53@...> wrote:
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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach
So far, there are as many pictures of this new car, as there are clear pictures of Bigfoot.
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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach
Clark Propst
Bill, Doug told me it isn't the Armour reefer. So alls I need are the trucks to put under my M&StL 55000 sereis box cars.
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If I'd have come to down CCB I'd have missed the blizzard Friday and the -10 temps... Clark Propst --- In STMFC@..., "Bill Schneider" <bschneider424@...> wrote:
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Magazine index
Aley, Jeff A
Andy,
I just tried the revived magazine index at http://trc.trains.com/Train%20Magazine%20Index.aspx . It works! Please extend my thanks to those who were responsible for bringing it back. The index is a critical resource for those of us who do research before building our models. Regards, -Jeff |
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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach
Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
Eeeeeeeeek! I have to learn to read a post through. Pardon me...
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I was hoping against hope that just somehow I could make produce reefers out of them... Steve Lucas. --- In STMFC@..., "Bruce Smith" <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach
Bill Schneider
Jeez Clark, and I thought that You of ALL people would be happy with the meat reefer. Hell, you didn’t even bother to come down to see it! I’m hurt.... ;>)
You missed a great meet. Thanks to Mike, Marty and the entire crew. Bill Schneider From: cepropst@q.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 11:46 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach Have they offered a reefer paint scheme on the nasty looking huge cupolaed caboose yet? They've done about everything else.... Clark Propst [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach
Steve,
They are meat cars. Regards Bruce Smith Auburn, Al From someone absolutely ignorant of wood-sheathed reefer differences--"Steve Lucas" <stevelucas3@...> 01/08/11 9:43 PM >>> Were the cars modelled by Rapido's new model meat, or produce cars? And were they similar to any MDT/NRC cars? Thanks in advance, Steve Lucas. --- In STMFC@..., "moonmuln" <jack.f.mullen@...> wrote: version wood sides,built between 1937 and 1940 (not 1941 as reported by Bruce) with appear in the RPC 14 article. The GARX cars are described as havingends and roof, steel underframe and tabbed side sill.Doug and group, Duryea cushioned underframes, and from the photos it appears that the URTX series do also. Otherwise they appear to match the 1937-40 cars, so here's a mild kitbash idea for somebody. Or are there other differences that aren't obvious to me? reefers produced by GATC contemporary with these 37 footers. I'd appreciate any information on lessees and lettering (beyond the two photos in the RPC article) that someone could point me to.
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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach
Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
From someone absolutely ignorant of wood-sheathed reefer differences--
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Were the cars modelled by Rapido's new model meat, or produce cars? And were they similar to any MDT/NRC cars? Thanks in advance, Steve Lucas. --- In STMFC@..., "moonmuln" <jack.f.mullen@...> wrote:
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Re: Rapido freight car update
Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
Eddie,
By all means keep talking to Jason and Bill. They are some fo the very few who listen to a modeler's suggestions. Thanks to many, there are more new types of equipment available for the US / Canadian markets than would ever see the light of day. My modeling interest was a major pipeline of reefers moving east, so, I may have to divide the tax refund with the wife to buy some of these new reefers. Keep the suggestions flowing...................... Fred Freitas ________________________________ From: eddie_walters <eddie_walters@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Sat, January 8, 2011 9:24:47 AM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Rapido freight car update Phew, thanks Bill and Ed! The world is safe once again. I can get back to bugging Bill and Jason about other ideas (right?) -Ed --- In STMFC@..., "Bill Schneider" <bschneider424@...> wrote:
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Re: Rapido freight car at Cocoa Beach
Jack Mullen
--- In STMFC@..., "Douglas Harding" <doug.harding@...> wrote:
Doug and group, URTC 5300 - 5499 built 3/41 and GARX 3800-4999 45 cars built 2/41 appear in the RPC 14 article. The GARX cars are described as having Duryea cushioned underframes, and from the photos it appears that the URTX series do also. Otherwise they appear to match the 1937-40 cars, so here's a mild kitbash idea for somebody. Or are there other differences that aren't obvious to me? On a slightly diverging topic, I'm interested in the similar 41' reefers produced by GATC contemporary with these 37 footers. I'd appreciate any information on lessees and lettering (beyond the two photos in the RPC article) that someone could point me to. Thanks Jack Mullen |
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Re: Rapido freight car update
eddie_walters <eddie_walters@...>
Phew, thanks Bill and Ed! The world is safe once again. I can get back to bugging Bill and Jason about other ideas (right?)
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-Ed --- In STMFC@..., "Bill Schneider" <bschneider424@...> wrote:
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