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Re: Prototype Rails weather
Mike Brock <brockm@...>
Richard Hendrickson notes about the residents of Cocoa Beach and its nearby areas:
I was wondering if someone might pick up on that...Richard didn't disappoint. Mike Brock
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Re: Prototype Rails weather
Andy Carlson
I wish that I was going to Cocoa Beach, for today on my bike ride I was finding myself searching for shade. Upper 70's is too hot when exercising.
-Andy Carlson Ojai CA ________________________________ From: Mike Brock <brockm@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Sat, January 2, 2010 6:11:44 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Prototype Rails weather Tom Madden writes: Mike, I see the extended forecast for next Friday and Saturday at CocoaWe at Prototype Rails are not the least bit concerned about the threat of "cold" weather. For one thing, most folks from far away lands such as Colorado, the Midwest [ wherever that is ], and the New England states...if they are still inhabited... will no doubt find the Cocoa Beach temperatures in the dead of winter to be absolutely balmy. To add to that, of course, is the fact that the hot air generated by the attendees [ including, naturally, myself ] will be more cause of concern for adequate air conditioning than heat. OTOH, believing in hedging one's bets...I'd bring a jacket... Mike Brock Prototype Rails CEO [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Prototype Rails weather
Richard Hendrickson
On Jan 2, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Mike Brock wrote:
We at Prototype Rails are not the least bit concerned about theTo say nothing of the residents, where "balmy" hardly covers it. Richard Hendrickson
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Re: Shipping models to Cocoa Beach - I'll deliver them
Ned Carey <nedspam@...>
If anyone is flying from the DC/Baltimore area I will be glad to drive your models down. I'll be leaving sometime Tuesday.
I will be bringing a nice sceniced display stand. Sadly none of the models I intended to finish will be done before I leave, so I might have some extra display space. Contact me off list if you want me to transport your models. Ned Carey
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Re: AAR Twin hopper rebuilt into Covered hopper:
Matt Herson
Tim,
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Thanks for your response. My question should have been more specific. Were the NP 70000 series hopper cars purchased new or used and if used from what source. One of these cars was still around a few years ago on MRL in Missoula. Matt Herson From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:50 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: RE: [STMFC] AAR Twin hopper rebuilt into Covered hopper: Matt the captions in the NP Color Guide say these were rebuilt from USRA clones 70000-70048 in 1957. And one of the photos is from your collection! Tim O'Connor
At 1/2/2010 07:23 PM Saturday, you wrote:
The car comes from the NP 207400-207427 series used in company sand service
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Re: Shipping models to Cocoa Beach
lnnrr <lnnrr@...>
And all this time I just thought that normal interchange rules
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were in effect. Is someone implying that southbound loads are exceeding the number of northbound empties? Chuck Peck
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Re: Prototype Rails weather
Mike Brock <brockm@...>
Tom Madden writes:
Mike, I see the extended forecast for next Friday and Saturday at Cocoa Beach is rain with highs in the mid-50's (Friday) and low 60's (Saturday). Can you work on improving that over the next few days?We at Prototype Rails are not the least bit concerned about the threat of "cold" weather. For one thing, most folks from far away lands such as Colorado, the Midwest [ wherever that is ], and the New England states...if they are still inhabited...will no doubt find the Cocoa Beach temperatures in the dead of winter to be absolutely balmy. To add to that, of course, is the fact that the hot air generated by the attendees [ including, naturally, myself ] will be more cause of concern for adequate air conditioning than heat. OTOH, believing in hedging one's bets...I'd bring a jacket... Mike Brock Prototype Rails CEO
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Re: AAR Twin hopper rebuilt into Covered hopper:
Schuyler Larrabee
Just saw this pic on rrpicturearchives. This was not uncommon. DL&W was a leader in using covered hoppers for cement service. They installed steeper slope sheets, because of the angle of repose of cement, and added a roof. Later they had purpose-built cars, but in the beginning they used modified coal hoppers. SGL E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.508) Database version: 6.14040 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/
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Re: AAR Twin hopper rebuilt into Covered hopper:
Matt the captions in the NP Color Guide say these were rebuilt from
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USRA clones 70000-70048 in 1957. And one of the photos is from your collection! Tim O'Connor
At 1/2/2010 07:23 PM Saturday, you wrote:
The car comes from the NP 207400-207427 series used in company sand service
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Re: AAR Twin hopper rebuilt into Covered hopper:
Matt Herson
The car comes from the NP 207400-207427 series used in company sand service
as lettered on the car. They were originally NP 70000-70048 series hoppers built in 1922 and rebuilt for sand service in 1957 and 1959. This from NP diagram sheets posted at www.nprha.org Another question regarding these cars: Were they purchased new or used by the NP? Thanks for any replys, Matt Herson From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of ironhorsefarm2000 Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:54 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] AAR Twin hopper rebuilt into Covered hopper: Just saw this pic on rrpicturearchives. http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1709105 It looks like an old AAR hopper rebuilt into a covered hopper. Any opinions? thanks Dave J.
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Re: Prototype Rails weather
Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
Tom,
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I will gladly trade you the 16 inches, and growing, snow cover at my home in Vermont for the balmy 50's in FL. This is why we call it building season up north. Fred Freitas
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From: pullmanboss <tgmadden@...> Subject: [STMFC] Prototype Rails weather To: STMFC@... Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 7:12 PM Mike, I see the extended forecast for next Friday and Saturday at Cocoa Beach is rain with highs in the mid-50's (Friday) and low 60's (Saturday). Can you work on improving that over the next few days? Tom Madden [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Prototype Rails weather
pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
Mike, I see the extended forecast for next Friday and Saturday at Cocoa Beach is rain with highs in the mid-50's (Friday) and low 60's (Saturday). Can you work on improving that over the next few days?
Tom Madden
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Re: Arch bar trucks.....
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Denny Anspach wrote:
One of the more bizarre instances of a car with arch bar trucks being interchanged long after 1940 is Nevada Northern RR coal-fired steam wrecking crane "A" (1908) which in 1966 was borrowed by the Western Pacific RR to substitute for one of their own wreckers which had failed.But the "ban" simply gave the receiving road the right to refuse a car with outlawed trucks, it did not REQUIRE them to refuse it. Obviously in the case the WP was delighted to accept the loaned crane. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Arch bar trucks.....
docdenny34 <danspach@...>
One of the more bizarre instances of a car with arch bar trucks being interchanged long after 1940 is Nevada Northern RR coal-fired steam wrecking crane "A" (1908) which in 1966 was borrowed by the Western Pacific RR to substitute for one of their own wreckers which had failed. What made this interesting transaction even more interesting was that the original arch bar trucks were replaced by the WP with yet another set of archbar trucks fitted with ROLLER BEARINGs that had been removed from one of their own previously retired cranes!
This crane underwent it last heavy servicing in the early 1980's. It remains serviceable and operable in East Ely, NV today. Denny
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Re: Grand Trunk flat series number
frograbbit602
Brian,
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Thank You for the information. Happy New Year, Lester Breuer Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Arch bar trucks.....
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Tim O'Connor wrote:
The other side of that coin is that if you have NO exceptional or rare examples then your entire railroad is exceptional and unusual. After all, exceptional and rare cars collectively were actually a common sight on major railroads... just like that NYO&W hopper under Mike's coal tipple. :-)Sure, full agreement. But we all have "favorite things" that we can't resist, like a "Ball Line" yellow box car. I'm just advocating not ADDING to those beloved rarities with stuff like archbar trucks in 1950. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Arch bar trucks.....
Tony
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The other side of that coin is that if you have NO exceptional or rare examples then your entire railroad is exceptional and unusual. After all, exceptional and rare cars collectively were actually a common sight on major railroads... just like that NYO&W hopper under Mike's coal tipple. :-) Tim O'Connor
Well, I'm a strong believer in NOT modeling exceptions and
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AAR Twin hopper rebuilt into Covered hopper:
Dave Johnson
Just saw this pic on rrpicturearchives.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1709105 It looks like an old AAR hopper rebuilt into a covered hopper. Any opinions? thanks Dave J.
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Re: Arch bar trucks.....
bob_karig <karig@...>
Does anyone have Supplements 1 and 2 of the 1940 Code of Rules...for the Interchange of Traffic...? If so, could you contact me off line.
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karig@... Thanks, Bob Karig Arch Bar side frames were banned (in interchange) on and after July 1,
1940. There was no further extension past that date. The reference to August
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Re: Shipping models to Cocoa Beach
Bill Schneider
So THAT'S where it went.... ;>)
Bill Schneider http://home.comcast.net/~oandw/ From: Mike Brock Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 1:21 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re:Shipping models to Cocoa Beach Denny Anspach says: H-mmm. Have you ever noticed how like the thin edge of the wedgeActually...it's true. I just noticed the other day that an NYO&W hopper car is sitting under the coaling shute at Harriman. It's even loaded with coal. Strange... Mike Brock
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