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Re: Discontinuance of Kadee #58 Semi-Scale Couplers

SUVCWORR@...
 

Tom,

The 58 is being replaced by the 158 whisker.

Rich Orr

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Subject: [STMFC] Discontinuance of Kadee #58 Semi-Scale Couplers


I received an email from a friend of mine in Ft. Wayne last evening regarding

Kadee discontinuing the Kadee #58 Semi-Scale couplers. This was news to me. Is

this because of going to the newer "whisker" version?



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Re: Discontinuance of Kadee #58 Semi-Scale Couplers

Andrew Miller <aslmmiller@...>
 

A quick check of Kadee's website shows the #118 being discontinued, but no mention of the #58's demise. Are you sure of your friends numbers?

regards,

Andy Miller

----- Original Message -----
From: tmolsen@...
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:00 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Discontinuance of Kadee #58 Semi-Scale Couplers



I received an email from a friend of mine in Ft. Wayne last evening regarding Kadee discontinuing the Kadee #58 Semi-Scale couplers. This was news to me. Is this because of going to the newer "whisker" version?

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...


Re: NRC/IC Reefers

Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
 

Richard and others,

I remember the NRC/IC reefers very well - they're just about the only cars I saw in the IC's New Orleans terminals for banana loading in the late 1950s and early 1960s. I also saw them being reconditioned and repainted at the IC's Stuyvesant Docks open-air RIP tracks. They did have orange sides, with boxcar red/brown roofs and ends and black trucks and underbodies. I can't remember ever seeing a yellow IC-owned reefer in those years, which of course doesn't mean that there weren't some still around.

So long,

Andy

Andy Sperandeo
Executive Editor
Model Railroader magazine
asperandeo@...
262-796-8776, ext. 461
FAX 262-796-1142


Re: Discontinuance of Kadee #58 Semi-Scale Couplers

SamClarke
 

Tim, No I don't believe that we'll include the #262 with the normal coupler package.

We changed the hole size because that was one of the complaints about the #78 box. I think the bottom of the box has enough thickness to "carefully" counter sing a flathead screw.

Sam Clarke
Kadee Quality Products


From: Tim O'Connor
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:06 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Discontinuance of Kadee #58 Semi-Scale Couplers


Nice!! (Drat, I just bought two packages of #242)... Will you be including
the #262 box with your whisker couplers in the future?

I dunno... 2-56 is pretty clunky. I'd prefer an O-80 counterset
screw so it's much less visible, like the Accurail boxes.

Tim O'Connor

KD Sam wrote: "The #78 assembled coupler in a narrow box will be replaced by a #178 (using the whisker #158) in the same
box but with a center hole for a #2 (2-56) screw."

Yeah!!
Clark Propst


Re: Discontinuance of Kadee #58 Semi-Scale Couplers

SamClarke
 

Hello Group,

Kadee is not discontinuing the #58 coupler, like the good old #5 coupler in our "standard head" coupler line, it's the back bone of our "scale head" coupler line. We are discontinuing a number of other couplers but we are replacing them with new versions using the whisker centering spring. The #78 assembled coupler in a narrow box will be replaced by a #178 (using the whisker #158) in the same box but with a center hole for a #2 (2-56) screw. The older #118 is being fazed out (get a good deal on these now) for a newer #118 with a whisker spring. The entire 40 series couplers will "eventually" be replaced by the whisker spring 140 series, the #46 and #47 have already been sold out and replaced with the #146 and #147 whisker couplers. The couplers in our logging car kits will soon have a whisker coupler. Others will be forthcoming so keep an eye out or better yet just watch our web sight.
We also have some new draft gear boxes for the whisker couplers with snap on lids. The #242 is the box that comes with our standard package of whisker couplers and our #252 is a 30 series box modified for the whisker couplers, and we just released the #262 box that's a bit narrower and shallower than a standard box.


Sam Clarke
Kadee Quality Products


From: Andrew Miller
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:03 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Discontinuance of Kadee #58 Semi-Scale Couplers



A quick check of Kadee's website shows the #118 being discontinued, but no mention of the #58's demise. Are you sure of your friends numbers?

regards,

Andy Miller
----- Original Message -----
From: tmolsen@...
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:00 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Discontinuance of Kadee #58 Semi-Scale Couplers

I received an email from a friend of mine in Ft. Wayne last evening regarding Kadee discontinuing the Kadee #58 Semi-Scale couplers. This was news to me. Is this because of going to the newer "whisker" version?

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...


Re: [CDN-frt-cars-n-ops] CN Fowler cars - X Braced frame doors

Frank Valoczy <destron@...>
 

I'm not at home right now so I can't check to verify, but I *think* the
Pacific Great Eastern's Fowler stock cars also had the X doors. I'll check
as soon as I'm able, but I would agree that TLT would do best by going
with the X-framed door.

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

Rob Kirkham wrote:

Hi Peter,
Looking through every photo of CNR stock cars I have, I find your
descriptions are correct.

Of the 5' door cars, all are of the Intercolonial and related fleets that
were essentially CPR knock off designs, with unequally angled diagonal
bracing. And all of the cars I have photos for had the X style door.
These
photos were all taken in later steam era/transition years.

For the 6 foot door cars I have photos of (same vintage), all had the X
style door.

I can't imagine these were distributed geographically. I think TLT would
be
safe using this design for their CNR style stock cars.

Rob Kirkham

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From: "PBowers" <4everwaiting@...>
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:22 PM
To: <CanModelTrains@...>; <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] [CDN-frt-cars-n-ops] CN Fowler cars - X Braced frame
doors

I have been discussing with TLT the possibility of having the 36 foot
Fowler stock cars released with the more common, especially in the
50's, "X" framed door rather than the vertical slat door the first
runs of the model had. While CN did have that type door on some cars
it was not the typically seen door on the CN 36 foot stock cars..

Doing a photo check the wood vertical slats on TLT CN cars as
modelled on the CN stock cars was rare by the fifties. It appears
the most prevalent use of the wood vertical slat doors were on the 5
foot wide cars. The six foot cars with vertical slat doors were rare
by the mid forties it appears,


Doing a quick bit of history on the CN cars we find:

CN rebuilt 5 foot door Intercolonial Ry box cars into wood slat door
equipped stock cars in 1923 that lasted up to the forties. These
cars had 4 brace ends In 1923 they also rebuilt 500 GT Fowler stock
cars These cars had 2 brace ends and wood doors. Like the other
cars they lasted into the forties at least.

CN rebuilt a further 1500 former 5' door Intercolonial Ry and 6' door
ex GT cars between 1934 and 1939 Like the previous rebuilds, these
cars carried the 4 and 2 braces on their ends.

In 1948 CN converted more ex 1913 built GT boxcars with steel roofs
Power hand brakes AB brakes and 5 braces on the car ends. These cars
were all equipped with X braces doors upon entering service. Photos
show that many were equipped with these newer doors by the mid 40's
and it appears they were appearing on cars by the early forties.

Interestingly, I have not found a five foot wide door CN car with the
X frame door although a couple photos show existing cars in 1963 and
1974. As well I have not come up with a clear picture to verify the
vertical wood slat doors on the 6 foot wide Fowler cars after the
very early forties.

With this research taking shape fairly well, I am passing it on to
the Canadian Freight Car and Operations and CNLines-CNet/Steam Mavens
list to see what else we can flush out on these cars.

As for numbers of cars there were about 876 5' foot wide door Fowler
cars on the books in 1953 and about 2100 6 foot door Fowler stock
cars comprising the CN fleet.

These cars were used extensively in the west, Ontario and Quebec as
well as the Maritimes. As well they were used system wide for
hauling MOW supplies and could be seen hauling almost anything when a
car was needed and weatherproof conditions was not a necessity and as
long as the need for moving livestock was absent.

It would be interesting to know if the 5 foot door cars were
specially assigned in any way. According to ORER records they were
equipped with a feeding trough. These were the only cars so
equipped. But why?

As the X framed door was a minor repair/upgrade, there was little or
no upgrade to the car necessary. I had discussed with a resin
producer producing an insert that would require cutting out the
vertical slats of the full height slat door such as on the ONR
version and inserting the horizontal slat-X frame module.

I know personally, there are a lot of persons who did not buy the
first CN Fowler cars because they knew the door was incorrect for
what they wanted. My bet is the X frame doors would be a big hit.

Currently the info needed by TLT at this point is as
follows: Exactly how many of these cars (the X framed door Fowler
stock cars) saw service, time frame, in what regions (so potential
popularity) and from a manufacturing perspective, what changes or
differences between 'standard cars' and the 'X' braced door (what
would we have to change at the factory)? We are just trying to get an
idea, financially how feasible this change would be and if there is
enough interest. Any help or ideas would be welcomed.

Peter Bowers
Discussion list on Canadian Freight Cars and their Operation
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CDN-frt-cars-n-ops/



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Re: [CDN-frt-cars-n-ops] CN Fowler cars - X Braced frame doors

Robert kirkham
 

Hi Peter,
Looking through every photo of CNR stock cars I have, I find your descriptions are correct.

Of the 5' door cars, all are of the Intercolonial and related fleets that were essentially CPR knock off designs, with unequally angled diagonal bracing. And all of the cars I have photos for had the X style door. These photos were all taken in later steam era/transition years.

For the 6 foot door cars I have photos of (same vintage), all had the X style door.

I can't imagine these were distributed geographically. I think TLT would be safe using this design for their CNR style stock cars.

Rob Kirkham

--------------------------------------------------
From: "PBowers" <4everwaiting@...>
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:22 PM
To: <CanModelTrains@...>; <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] [CDN-frt-cars-n-ops] CN Fowler cars - X Braced frame doors

I have been discussing with TLT the possibility of having the 36 foot
Fowler stock cars released with the more common, especially in the
50's, "X" framed door rather than the vertical slat door the first
runs of the model had. While CN did have that type door on some cars
it was not the typically seen door on the CN 36 foot stock cars..

Doing a photo check the wood vertical slats on TLT CN cars as
modelled on the CN stock cars was rare by the fifties. It appears
the most prevalent use of the wood vertical slat doors were on the 5
foot wide cars. The six foot cars with vertical slat doors were rare
by the mid forties it appears,


Doing a quick bit of history on the CN cars we find:

CN rebuilt 5 foot door Intercolonial Ry box cars into wood slat door
equipped stock cars in 1923 that lasted up to the forties. These
cars had 4 brace ends In 1923 they also rebuilt 500 GT Fowler stock
cars These cars had 2 brace ends and wood doors. Like the other
cars they lasted into the forties at least.

CN rebuilt a further 1500 former 5' door Intercolonial Ry and 6' door
ex GT cars between 1934 and 1939 Like the previous rebuilds, these
cars carried the 4 and 2 braces on their ends.

In 1948 CN converted more ex 1913 built GT boxcars with steel roofs
Power hand brakes AB brakes and 5 braces on the car ends. These cars
were all equipped with X braces doors upon entering service. Photos
show that many were equipped with these newer doors by the mid 40's
and it appears they were appearing on cars by the early forties.

Interestingly, I have not found a five foot wide door CN car with the
X frame door although a couple photos show existing cars in 1963 and
1974. As well I have not come up with a clear picture to verify the
vertical wood slat doors on the 6 foot wide Fowler cars after the
very early forties.

With this research taking shape fairly well, I am passing it on to
the Canadian Freight Car and Operations and CNLines-CNet/Steam Mavens
list to see what else we can flush out on these cars.

As for numbers of cars there were about 876 5' foot wide door Fowler
cars on the books in 1953 and about 2100 6 foot door Fowler stock
cars comprising the CN fleet.

These cars were used extensively in the west, Ontario and Quebec as
well as the Maritimes. As well they were used system wide for
hauling MOW supplies and could be seen hauling almost anything when a
car was needed and weatherproof conditions was not a necessity and as
long as the need for moving livestock was absent.

It would be interesting to know if the 5 foot door cars were
specially assigned in any way. According to ORER records they were
equipped with a feeding trough. These were the only cars so
equipped. But why?

As the X framed door was a minor repair/upgrade, there was little or
no upgrade to the car necessary. I had discussed with a resin
producer producing an insert that would require cutting out the
vertical slats of the full height slat door such as on the ONR
version and inserting the horizontal slat-X frame module.

I know personally, there are a lot of persons who did not buy the
first CN Fowler cars because they knew the door was incorrect for
what they wanted. My bet is the X frame doors would be a big hit.

Currently the info needed by TLT at this point is as
follows: Exactly how many of these cars (the X framed door Fowler
stock cars) saw service, time frame, in what regions (so potential
popularity) and from a manufacturing perspective, what changes or
differences between 'standard cars' and the 'X' braced door (what
would we have to change at the factory)? We are just trying to get an
idea, financially how feasible this change would be and if there is
enough interest. Any help or ideas would be welcomed.

Peter Bowers
Discussion list on Canadian Freight Cars and their Operation
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CDN-frt-cars-n-ops/



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Discontinuance of Kadee #58 Semi-Scale Couplers

tmolsen@...
 

I received an email from a friend of mine in Ft. Wayne last evening regarding Kadee discontinuing the Kadee #58 Semi-Scale couplers. This was news to me. Is this because of going to the newer "whisker" version?

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...


[CDN-frt-cars-n-ops] CN Fowler cars - X Braced frame doors

PBowers
 

I have been discussing with TLT the possibility of having the 36 foot Fowler stock cars released with the more common, especially in the 50's, "X" framed door rather than the vertical slat door the first runs of the model had. While CN did have that type door on some cars it was not the typically seen door on the CN 36 foot stock cars..

Doing a photo check the wood vertical slats on TLT CN cars as modelled on the CN stock cars was rare by the fifties. It appears the most prevalent use of the wood vertical slat doors were on the 5 foot wide cars. The six foot cars with vertical slat doors were rare by the mid forties it appears,


Doing a quick bit of history on the CN cars we find:

CN rebuilt 5 foot door Intercolonial Ry box cars into wood slat door equipped stock cars in 1923 that lasted up to the forties. These cars had 4 brace ends In 1923 they also rebuilt 500 GT Fowler stock cars These cars had 2 brace ends and wood doors. Like the other cars they lasted into the forties at least.

CN rebuilt a further 1500 former 5' door Intercolonial Ry and 6' door ex GT cars between 1934 and 1939 Like the previous rebuilds, these cars carried the 4 and 2 braces on their ends.

In 1948 CN converted more ex 1913 built GT boxcars with steel roofs Power hand brakes AB brakes and 5 braces on the car ends. These cars were all equipped with X braces doors upon entering service. Photos show that many were equipped with these newer doors by the mid 40's and it appears they were appearing on cars by the early forties.

Interestingly, I have not found a five foot wide door CN car with the X frame door although a couple photos show existing cars in 1963 and 1974. As well I have not come up with a clear picture to verify the vertical wood slat doors on the 6 foot wide Fowler cars after the very early forties.

With this research taking shape fairly well, I am passing it on to the Canadian Freight Car and Operations and CNLines-CNet/Steam Mavens list to see what else we can flush out on these cars.

As for numbers of cars there were about 876 5' foot wide door Fowler cars on the books in 1953 and about 2100 6 foot door Fowler stock cars comprising the CN fleet.

These cars were used extensively in the west, Ontario and Quebec as well as the Maritimes. As well they were used system wide for hauling MOW supplies and could be seen hauling almost anything when a car was needed and weatherproof conditions was not a necessity and as long as the need for moving livestock was absent.

It would be interesting to know if the 5 foot door cars were specially assigned in any way. According to ORER records they were equipped with a feeding trough. These were the only cars so equipped. But why?

As the X framed door was a minor repair/upgrade, there was little or no upgrade to the car necessary. I had discussed with a resin producer producing an insert that would require cutting out the vertical slats of the full height slat door such as on the ONR version and inserting the horizontal slat-X frame module.

I know personally, there are a lot of persons who did not buy the first CN Fowler cars because they knew the door was incorrect for what they wanted. My bet is the X frame doors would be a big hit.

Currently the info needed by TLT at this point is as follows: Exactly how many of these cars (the X framed door Fowler stock cars) saw service, time frame, in what regions (so potential popularity) and from a manufacturing perspective, what changes or differences between 'standard cars' and the 'X' braced door (what would we have to change at the factory)? We are just trying to get an idea, financially how feasible this change would be and if there is enough interest. Any help or ideas would be welcomed.

Peter Bowers
Discussion list on Canadian Freight Cars and their Operation
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CDN-frt-cars-n-ops/


Re: Buckeye ends (was Erie 78000-78499)

Brian Carlson
 

Yes. The 1923 ARA cars in series 75500-75999 had Buckeye Ends that had the
panel seam on a corrugation. see page 94 of RPC 18. The 1932 ARA cars and
these cars had the panel seam between the corrugations.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

prrk41361@...



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim
O'Connor
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:53 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] RE: Buckeye ends (was Erie 78000-78499)






Very interesting -- I have a scan of another Erie (ex-Erie)
box car with Buckeye ends -- but they are quite different
than the ends shown in the photo below!

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie78249adb.jpg

Did Buckeye ends change over time? And if so which cars got
which ends?

Tim O'Connor

I am building one of these cars in P:48 and would like a photo of the ends
to see the layout of the Buckeye ends. I think I have it figured out but
would like to confirm. Anyone have a photo of the ends?

Thanks,
John F. Pautz


Re: Waterloo Cedar Falls and Northern flatcar

Tim O'Connor
 

Ken

only photo I could find of WCF&N and flat cars...
http://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/wcf4.jpg

look at the bright side -- if no photos exist, you can
use the Athearn 48'6" flat car, and no one will be able
to prove you wrong! :-)

Tim O'Connor

I am new to the STMFC and am searching for information on Waterloo Cedar Falls and Northern flatcars in interchange service in 1950. I have an SP conductor's log for a freight in Oregon in 1950 which includes WCFN 4021. According to the 1950 ORER it is one of the series 4000-4024 cars in interchange service. The ORER lists these as 48'6" length. I would love to find a photo of one of these cars as well as other information which would allow me to model it. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ken Roth


Re: Buckeye ends (was Erie 78000-78499)

Tim O'Connor
 

Very interesting -- I have a scan of another Erie (ex-Erie)
box car with Buckeye ends -- but they are quite different
than the ends shown in the photo below!

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie78249adb.jpg

Did Buckeye ends change over time? And if so which cars got
which ends?

Tim O'Connor

I am building one of these cars in P:48 and would like a photo of the ends
to see the layout of the Buckeye ends. I think I have it figured out but
would like to confirm. Anyone have a photo of the ends?

Thanks,
John F. Pautz


Re: Repetitive emails

Larry Wolohon
 

Rich,



I also use Comcast & haven't experienced receiving messages like you noted.



Larry Wolohon/Plymouth, Mi

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Yoder" <oscale48@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, September 6, 2010 8:52:15 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Repetitive emails

 




Have any of you experienced Repetitive email problems with Comcast?

Everything that is posited I receive 5 times from this group and this group
only.

Sincerely,

Rich Yoder

7 Edgedale Court

Wyomissing PA 19610-1913

Call between 6:00 PM and 10:00 PM EST

610-678-2834

www.richyodermodels.com

RYM-Plateest 1999

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Re: Repetitive emails

John Degnan <Scaler164@...>
 

I believe it is a group issue... I've had this happen a number of times in the past, but it wasn't a Comcast issue.


John Degnan
Scaler164@...

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Yoder
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 08:52 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Repetitive emails


Have any of you experienced Repetitive email problems with Comcast?

Everything that is posited I receive 5 times from this group and this group
only.



Sincerely,

Rich Yoder


Re: Repetitive emails

James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
 

Rich,



I have Comcast and have not experienced the problem you have encountered.



Jim Brewer

Glenwood MD

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Yoder" <oscale48@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, September 6, 2010 8:52:15 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Repetitive emails

 




Have any of you experienced Repetitive email problems with Comcast?

Everything that is posited I receive 5 times from this group and this group
only.

Sincerely,

Rich Yoder

7 Edgedale Court

Wyomissing PA 19610-1913

Call between 6:00 PM and 10:00 PM EST

610-678-2834

www.richyodermodels.com

RYM-Plateest 1999

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Waterloo Cedar Falls and Northern flatcar

Ken Roth
 

I am new to the STMFC and am searching for information on Waterloo Cedar Falls and Northern flatcars in interchange service in 1950. I have an SP conductor's log for a freight in Oregon in 1950 which includes WCFN 4021. According to the 1950 ORER it is one of the series 4000-4024 cars in interchange service. The ORER lists these as 48'6" length. I would love to find a photo of one of these cars as well as other information which would allow me to model it. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Ken Roth


Repetitive emails

Rich Yoder
 

Have any of you experienced Repetitive email problems with Comcast?

Everything that is posited I receive 5 times from this group and this group
only.



Sincerely,

Rich Yoder

7 Edgedale Court

Wyomissing PA 19610-1913

Call between 6:00 PM and 10:00 PM EST

610-678-2834

www.richyodermodels.com



RYM-Plateest 1999


Re: Sunshine 34.25 WFEX Postwar steel reefer

Bill Welch
 

Yes the kit I have has the PDS for the WFE & FGE steel cars but instructions are for the plywood version

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "Brian J Carlson" <prrk41361@...> wrote:

While inventorying the above kit I noticed it has PDS 90B, but the
instructions as for the FGEX, BREX, WFEX wartime reefers. Were there
specific instructions for this kit or are the ones for the wartime reefers
correct. I'd appreciate confirmation from other owners of this kit. I
believe I got this at Naperville in 2009.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY
prrk41361@...


Re: Erie 78000-78499

Brian Carlson
 

There are some photos online at the Fallen flags site. Here is one of the
end

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie78249adb.jpg



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

prrk41361@...



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Trackman
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:23 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Erie 78000-78499





I am building one of these cars in P:48 and would like a photo of the ends
to see the layout of the Buckeye ends. I think I have it figured out but
would like to confirm. Anyone have a photo of the ends?

Thanks,
John F. Pautz
American Switch & Signal
P:48 track components


Re: Erie 78000-78499

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Sep 6, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Trackman wrote:

I am building one of these cars in P:48 and would like a photo of
the ends to see the layout of the Buckeye ends. I think I have it
figured out but would like to confirm. Anyone have a photo of the
ends?

Thanks,
John F. Pautz
American Switch & Signal
P:48 track components
John, as it happens, I have a builder's end view and a 1951 in-
service 3/4 view which show those ends quite clearly. I'm sending
you scans off-list.

Richard Hendrickson