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Re: Wegman (?) PFE/ART resin kit

pierreoliver2003 <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Paul,
I think you are mistaken. I have a memory of a Sunshine reefer kit that had the ends and sides cast as one piece, with a seperate roof and floor. Of course I can't remember which kit it was at this time.
Now one could argue that without the roof or underframe it doesn't fully qualify as a one piece body.
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., cobrapsl@... wrote:


You guys really have my curosity up as to what kit you are talking about. Bill, if it is a one piece body, it is NOT a Sunshine kit, as Martin has never done any one piece castings, except for the quasi gondolas castings.



Paul Lyons


Re: Spokane, Portland & Seattle box cars

Tim O'Connor
 

No single-sheathed boxcars on the SP&S; it went directly from the
1918 USRA DS to steel boxcars in 1945. Even its MOW boxcars were DS
trussrod boxcars from its parents GN and NP.
Interesting. So why didn't Accurail (as it chooses to term
itself) put the SP&S scheme on their DS box car? Oh, I know, the SS
cars are "more fun." Or something. Maybe Dennis can explain.
Tony Thompson

Or not. Most Accurail paint schemes are bogus, but the models (especially
the most recent two cars) are definitely not bogus. I think this falls under
the time-honored practice of "the customer is always right"...

Tim O'Connor

P.S. I think the 40' gondolas are great models for the price. I got the
C&NW and a second C&NW in another paint scheme from the historical society.
Very nice cars and they weather up beautifully -- Accurail paint reacts
nicely with an alcohol wash.


Re: Wegman (?) PFE/ART resin kit

Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
 

GUYZ,
 
 
          By chance, is this one of Dennis S. original kits? They were one piece blocks.
 
Fred Freitas

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From: cobrapsl@... <cobrapsl@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Wegman (?) PFE/ART resin kit
To: STMFC@...
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 2:53 PM


 




You guys really have my curosity up as to what kit you are talking about. Bill, if it is a one piece body, it is NOT a Sunshine kit, as Martin has never done any one piece castings, except for the quasi gondolas castings.

Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: lnbill <fgexbill@tampabay. rr.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:09 am
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Wegman (?) PFE/ART resin kit

Actually I think they are a Sunshine kits cast as a one piece body. They come with brass foot holds for the roof, and a choice of ice hatch covers.

From the photo I have showing the outside metal roof from a relatively high angle, I determined the number of roof ribs was not correct, so I removed the ones that were cast on and replaced them with strip styrene. I think my two models are still pictured on the Steam Era website. I used a combination of Sunshine, Champ and Terry's decals. Based on a recommendation I saw I think in the MPHS magazine, I used Modelflex D&RGW gold to paint the sides. I built two, one w/fans and still have two unbuilt kits

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, asychis@... wrote:

I am preparing a presentation on ART models for the Missouri Pacific
Historical Society meeting in Omaha. I have two of these models, but
unfortunately did not keep the instructions. Can someone provide me with details on
these kits? I know the numbers series, and have built the models, but I
believe they were modifications of a PFE wood-sided reefer. I'd like to know
how they differ from the PFE car and any other tidbits of information. Do
I have the name right? Has anyone else built the ART version? Want to
send me a photo to include in the talk?

Thanks,

Jerry Michels


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Re: Wegman (?) PFE/ART resin kit

Paul Lyons
 

You guys really have my curosity up as to what kit you are talking about. Bill, if it is a one piece body, it is NOT a Sunshine kit, as Martin has never done any one piece castings, except for the quasi gondolas castings.



Paul Lyons

-----Original Message-----
From: lnbill <fgexbill@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:09 am
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Wegman (?) PFE/ART resin kit







Actually I think they are a Sunshine kits cast as a one piece body. They come with brass foot holds for the roof, and a choice of ice hatch covers.

From the photo I have showing the outside metal roof from a relatively high angle, I determined the number of roof ribs was not correct, so I removed the ones that were cast on and replaced them with strip styrene. I think my two models are still pictured on the Steam Era website. I used a combination of Sunshine, Champ and Terry's decals. Based on a recommendation I saw I think in the MPHS magazine, I used Modelflex D&RGW gold to paint the sides. I built two, one w/fans and still have two unbuilt kits

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., asychis@... wrote:

I am preparing a presentation on ART models for the Missouri Pacific
Historical Society meeting in Omaha. I have two of these models, but
unfortunately did not keep the instructions. Can someone provide me with details on
these kits? I know the numbers series, and have built the models, but I
believe they were modifications of a PFE wood-sided reefer. I'd like to know
how they differ from the PFE car and any other tidbits of information. Do
I have the name right? Has anyone else built the ART version? Want to
send me a photo to include in the talk?

Thanks,

Jerry Michels




Re: Spokane, Portland & Seattle box cars

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

gary laakso wrote:
No single-sheathed boxcars on the SP&S; it went directly from the 1918 USRA DS to steel boxcars in 1945. Even its MOW boxcars were DS trussrod boxcars from its parents GN and NP.
Interesting. So why didn't Accurail (as it chooses to term itself) put the SP&S scheme on their DS box car? Oh, I know, the SS cars are "more fun." Or something. Maybe Dennis can explain.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Spokane, Portland & Seattle box cars

Tim O'Connor
 

Tony

I don't think so.

Ed Austin published a roster in Mainline Modeler, Dec 1997.

Tim

At 9/17/2009 01:22 PM Thursday, you wrote:
Does anyone know if the SP&S ever had single-sheathed box
cars? I have not been able to find other than double-sheathed wood box
cars in my photo resources. I ask because Accurail is just releasing
an SP&S paint scheme on its SS box car.

Tony Thompson


Re: Spokane, Portland & Seattle box cars

gary laakso
 

No single-sheathed boxcars on the SP&S; it went directly from the 1918 USRA DS to steel boxcars in 1945. Even its MOW boxcars were DS trussrod boxcars from its parents GN and NP.

gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
vasa0vasa@...

----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Thompson
To: STMFC@...
Sent: 9/17/2009 1:22:45 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Spokane, Portland & Seattle box cars


Does anyone know if the SP&S ever had single-sheathed box
cars? I have not been able to find other than double-sheathed wood box
cars in my photo resources. I ask because Accurail is just releasing
an SP&S paint scheme on its SS box car.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Spokane, Portland & Seattle box cars

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Does anyone know if the SP&S ever had single-sheathed box cars? I have not been able to find other than double-sheathed wood box cars in my photo resources. I ask because Accurail is just releasing an SP&S paint scheme on its SS box car.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Wegman (?) PFE/ART resin kit

Bill Welch
 

Actually I think they are a Sunshine kits cast as a one piece body. They come with brass foot holds for the roof, and a choice of ice hatch covers.

From the photo I have showing the outside metal roof from a relatively high angle, I determined the number of roof ribs was not correct, so I removed the ones that were cast on and replaced them with strip styrene. I think my two models are still pictured on the Steam Era website. I used a combination of Sunshine, Champ and Terry's decals. Based on a recommendation I saw I think in the MPHS magazine, I used Modelflex D&RGW gold to paint the sides. I built two, one w/fans and still have two unbuilt kits

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., asychis@... wrote:

I am preparing a presentation on ART models for the Missouri Pacific
Historical Society meeting in Omaha. I have two of these models, but
unfortunately did not keep the instructions. Can someone provide me with details on
these kits? I know the numbers series, and have built the models, but I
believe they were modifications of a PFE wood-sided reefer. I'd like to know
how they differ from the PFE car and any other tidbits of information. Do
I have the name right? Has anyone else built the ART version? Want to
send me a photo to include in the talk?

Thanks,

Jerry Michels




Wegman (?) PFE/ART resin kit

asychis@...
 

I am preparing a presentation on ART models for the Missouri Pacific
Historical Society meeting in Omaha. I have two of these models, but
unfortunately did not keep the instructions. Can someone provide me with details on
these kits? I know the numbers series, and have built the models, but I
believe they were modifications of a PFE wood-sided reefer. I'd like to know
how they differ from the PFE car and any other tidbits of information. Do
I have the name right? Has anyone else built the ART version? Want to
send me a photo to include in the talk?

Thanks,

Jerry Michels


W&LE Box car question

Dave Lawler
 

Good day all,
Periodically, I go back through my collection of Mainline Modelers and Narrow Gauge Gazettes and re-read them. (get a life, right?) In any case, I tend to find various items of interest that I had overlooked or did not apply to my modeling before.
In the September 1984 issue of MM, page 35, there is a photo of a W&LE double sheathed box car, possibly 36'w/truss rods, next to a freighthouse in Brewster, Ohio. The car appears to have a recess in the side to the right of the door approximately the same size as the door. Is this an early attempt at a flush door that will roll into the recess when open or am I interpreting this old photo wrong? This same photo also appears in John B. Corns book on the Wheeling, Vol. 1 but, it is considerably smaller so, no help there.
Does anyone know anything about these cars? The car number may be 21313
however, it is quite fuzzy in the photo. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks and best regards,
Dave Lawler
Avon Lake, Ohio


Re: gondolas w/ cement cannisters

Al and Patricia Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Tim - Unless you're doing a partial load you would never see them. If the air-activated containers it's 2 semicircles of wood per container. If rectangular ones it's just wood blocking appropriate to the size and quantity. - Al

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:17 PM
Subject: [STMFC] gondolas w/ cement cannisters



Has anyone seen a good photo looking down on one of the D&H
or Lehigh Valley or other gondolas equipped to carry LCL cement
containers? I want to model a couple and I'd like to know what
kind of bracing was used to hold the cannisters in place.

Tim O'Connor


gondolas w/ cement cannisters

Tim O'Connor
 

Has anyone seen a good photo looking down on one of the D&H
or Lehigh Valley or other gondolas equipped to carry LCL cement
containers? I want to model a couple and I'd like to know what
kind of bracing was used to hold the cannisters in place.

Tim O'Connor


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Re: WFEX Handbrake

Bill Darnaby
 

Thanks Bill and Tim. I did not think to look in RPC #12 as I did not associate the car with the wartime builds. I did see the handbrake in the photo of FGEX 38387 in Kline/Culotta on pg 118 but I did not want to make the extrapolation to the WFEX cars. I will hunt down a DA 6403.

Bill Darnaby

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:42 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: WFEX Handbrake


Bills, almost all of the visible brake wheels in the RP CYC #12
article are Universal. The style is a 5-spoked design with an
outer ring and an inner ring. In HO scale the closest match is
Detail Associates #6403 (URECO). The Walthers web site lists it
as a UKECO (!!) brake wheel which pretty much ensures that no
one will ever find it. :-) Note that the Kadee Universal brake
wheel is a completely different design.

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/229-6403

Tim O'Connor



These are the Mt. Vernon built cars correct? There should be a "B" end photo in issue #13 (I think) of RP CYC of this car's FGE sibling in my article on the wartime plywood cars. The handbrakes would have been identical.

As with most truck sideframes, my literacy on the names of handbrakes is limited and I rely on Dan Smith, Gene Green, etc for the proper names.

Bill Welch


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Re: WFEX Handbrake

Tim O'Connor
 

Bills, almost all of the visible brake wheels in the RP CYC #12
article are Universal. The style is a 5-spoked design with an
outer ring and an inner ring. In HO scale the closest match is
Detail Associates #6403 (URECO). The Walthers web site lists it
as a UKECO (!!) brake wheel which pretty much ensures that no
one will ever find it. :-) Note that the Kadee Universal brake
wheel is a completely different design.

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/229-6403

Tim O'Connor

These are the Mt. Vernon built cars correct? There should be a "B" end photo in issue #13 (I think) of RP CYC of this car's FGE sibling in my article on the wartime plywood cars. The handbrakes would have been identical.

As with most truck sideframes, my literacy on the names of handbrakes is limited and I rely on Dan Smith, Gene Green, etc for the proper names.

Bill Welch


Re: WFEX Handbrake

Bill Welch
 

Dear Bill

These are the Mt. Vernon built cars correct? There should be a "B" end photo in issue #13 (I think) of RP CYC of this car's FGE sibling in my article on the wartime plywood cars. The handbrakes would have been identical.

As with most truck sideframes, my literacy on the names of handbrakes is limited and I rely on Dan Smith, Gene Green, etc for the proper names.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "william darnaby" <WDarnaby@...> wrote:

Does anyone know what handbrake type was applied to the WFEX 66625-66799 series 1946 built reefers? None of the photos I have show the B end.

Thanks,
Bill Darnaby

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GATX Tank

Bill Darnaby
 

I have a Sunshine GATX Type 30 kit that has Clinton Company decals. The only photo I have shows K brakes. Does anyone know if these cars made it to the AB era?

Thanks,
Bill Darnaby


WFEX Handbrake

Bill Darnaby
 

Does anyone know what handbrake type was applied to the WFEX 66625-66799 series 1946 built reefers? None of the photos I have show the B end.

Thanks,
Bill Darnaby


Re: Radial Course Tank Cars from SC&F

cn528 <jscagle@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Jon

Will you be bringing them to Naperville? yes.
jon

Tim O'


At 9/13/2009 09:35 AM Sunday, you wrote:
Greetings Group:

Noticed some discussion on building radial course tank cars and thought this would be a good time to let everyone know about the new tank cars that are available now. 2 new versions are available. an 8K gallon 5 course radial car, and a 6K gallon 5 course radial car. New roadnames too; NATX, VENX, and AE Staley. Standard Tank Car of course. And we also have a different dome version of the 6 course radial car previously released. Not a side vent, but the more typical top of dome vent.
I will do my best to post a pic this evening of the new cars. Never before available, except in brass.

If you would like to know more, please contact me offlist @ the3dworkshop@... or jscagle@... DO NOT GO TO THE WEB SITE, there is no new info, yet.

jon
SC&F

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