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NP Boxcar Completed
https://myp48.wordpress.com/2021/04/03/modeling-mid-century-composite-boxcar-completed/
Lee Turner finishes a boxcar I built. Please take a look. Gene Deimling
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Re: Southern Rwy 41'9" steel gondolas
Allan Smith
I found this add for Enterprise Railway Equipment. Not a clear picture but a start. Al Smith Sonora CA
On Friday, April 2, 2021, 11:11:48 AM PDT, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
I would check Bob's photos at 606-845-3323 or Arnold Menke at ,waspman@...> You should find them there feton On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 1:02 PM anthony wagner <anycw1@...> wrote: Looked everywhere I could think of for photos of the subject cars - no luck. If anyone has a photo of SOU 17500-178197, 287000-287999, or 315700-315949 series gondolas circa 1940s or 50s that they would share I would be very appreciative. There were enough of them that they would not have been a rare car on a layout set in 1949. any help would be welcome. Thanks, Tony ,Wagner
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Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR
In a conversation with Dave Grandt, when I was writing a review of the kit for RMC (Jan 2002), he told me the two kits were based on oil jobbers he saw and photographed in Colorado, New Mexico and Texas. There was not a specific prototype, but rather a compilation of a number of oil jobbers. Conoco was a major company in that area as well as Texaco. The warehouse with its corrugated roof and siding, along with the open porch platform certainly looks like it is from that region of the country. The kit with the tanks and truck filling stand can be used almost anywhere.
The Quincy CA kits were done by Campbell.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 1:09 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR
Bill Hirt wrote:
No, that's a quite different dealer. IIRC the Grandt Lines kit was already available well before that RMJ article. I also have a faint recollection that Grandt did several structures based on prototypes in Quincy, California, including this dealer. Can anyone confirm that?
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Re: Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose
Jeff Ford
All that roof and they still stuck the cupola at the very end.
-Jeff Ford Sanger, TX
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Re: Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose
Gene Semon <mopac1@...>
Did you check with the Arkansas Railroad Museum in Pine Bluff? They reportedly have a number of records for SSW.
Gene S.
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 12:25 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose
I’ve got a laser/resin manufacturer interested in doing the Cotton Belt double sheathed LCL long body caboose. If anyone has plans can you contact me?
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Re: Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose
Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
Man, the trainmen needed really LOOOONG legs!
Everyone have a good Easter Dennis Storzek
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Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR
WILLIAM PARDIE
Very nice job Gary. If anyone is interested Gerald Glow ismiking up Flying A decals for the tank ends for me. He would probably like to sell more. Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Gary Ray <gerber1926@...> Date: 4/2/21 10:50 AM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR using 1 1/4" OD PVC pipe. Rivets are from MircoMark. Decals printed on my ALPS. Tanks based on picture I had from Black Butte area but I can't seem to find it in my files right now. Busy packing to move to Weatherford, TX. Gary Ray Magalia, CA -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR
Gary Ray
Here are a couple of pictures of my Shell Oil distributor in Red Bluff, CA,
using 1 1/4" OD PVC pipe. Rivets are from MircoMark. Decals printed on my ALPS. Tanks based on picture I had from Black Butte area but I can't seem to find it in my files right now. Busy packing to move to Weatherford, TX. Gary Ray Magalia, CA -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR
mike turner
Together, the two kits, Midwest Petroleum Distributors and the Raised Platform Warehouse, capture about 85% of a Texaco distributor in my home town.
-- Mike Turner MP-Z35
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Re: Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose
Steve SANDIFER
Like this, preserved in Ashdown, Ark.
J. Stephen Sandifer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 12:25 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose
I’ve got a laser/resin manufacturer interested in doing the Cotton Belt double sheathed LCL long body caboose. If anyone has plans can you contact me?
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Re: ICC valuation
Richard Wilkens
I'm glad Ike posted his response on this subject. Since 2013 I have been the Archivist with the Spokane, Portland & Seattle Railway Archives located at the Pacific Northwest Railroad Archive at Burien, WA. We have been blessed to have a substantial amount of original SP&S records and one ledger in particular that I call the "Bible" which has copies of the ICC filings for Account 53 "Freight Train Cars" as well as passenger train cars (Account 54), work equipment (Account 57), steam locomotives (Account 51), and other locomotives (Account 52) from 1916 to 1970. In the case of the SP&S this is Form 239 so I wonder if the ICC Form 1742 that Ike provided samples of is actually the form number as used on the Southern? Anyone else have samples from other railroads?
I have attached a scan of SP&S Form 239 from December 31, 1952 and of note is that the "date of change" is unique in most cases a number simply shows 12-31-1952 and as time went on the December 31 date became more common. As to the holdings at NARA at College Park, I have been there several times and have researched railroads from the Pacific Northwest. In the conversations I had with David Pfeifer at NARA it seems that existing records relating to equipment seem to primarily exist for railroads from the Southeastern part of the US. I'm sorry to hear that David has retired as he is a great resource. Richard Wilkens Archivist, SP&S Railway Historical Society
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Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR
Gary Ray
Are these the tanks that were the Grant Line previously discussed? Midwest Petroleum Distributors (sanjuandetails.com) Gary Ray Magalia, CA (soon to be Weatherford, TX)
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 7:42 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR
It ha been on acknowledged that the tanks in the Grandt line oil distributor kit were superior to other offerings. They had long been 9ff the market. A few years ago Grandt Line had a table at an O Scale convention. I was told that the molds for the tanks had been broken and would not be replaced.
Subsequently I obtained a kit on E Bay. I wanted some additional tanks so I continued to monitor the site. A week ago I scored another kit. When it came in I was surprised to find the instructions were labeled SAN JUAN DETAILS (FORMALLY GRANDT LINE. This may mean that the kit is back on the market if anyone is interested.
Bill Pardie
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR
Andy Carlson
And that fuel terminal survives to at least 2 years ago when I visited the town. Tracks have been gone for quite a while, not going beyond the Sierra Pacific lumber mill which still feeds lumber by rail to the UP in the Feather River Canyon at Quincy Jct.. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
On Friday, April 2, 2021, 11:30:01 AM PDT, John King via groups.io <dstower1949@...> wrote:
I think it was Campbell Scale Models that did the series of buildings based on Quincy, California. They produced both vertical and horizontal oil tanks.
John King
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Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR
John King
I think it was Campbell Scale Models that did the series of buildings based on Quincy, California. They produced both vertical and horizontal oil tanks.
John King
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 2:09 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR
Bill Hirt wrote:
No, that's a quite different dealer. IIRC the Grandt Lines kit was already available well before that RMJ article. I also have a faint recollection that Grandt did several structures based on prototypes in Quincy, California, including this dealer. Can anyone confirm that?
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Re: Southern Rwy 41'9" steel gondolas
I would check Bob's photos at 606-845-3323 or Arnold Menke at ,waspman@...> You should find them there feton
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 1:02 PM anthony wagner <anycw1@...> wrote: Looked everywhere I could think of for photos of the subject cars - no luck. If anyone has a photo of SOU 17500-178197, 287000-287999, or 315700-315949 series gondolas circa 1940s or 50s that they would share I would be very appreciative. There were enough of them that they would not have been a rare car on a layout set in 1949. any help would be welcome. Thanks, Tony ,Wagner --
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Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR
Tony Thompson
Bill Hirt wrote:
No, that's a quite different dealer. IIRC the Grandt Lines kit was already available well before that RMJ article. I also have a faint recollection that Grandt did several structures based on prototypes in Quincy, California, including this dealer. Can anyone confirm that? Tony Thompson
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Re: Photo: Unloading Coal (Circa 1920)
Bob,
The caption says it is a Philadelphia & Reading car. Respectfully, John Mateyko
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Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose
I’ve got a laser/resin manufacturer interested in doing the Cotton Belt double sheathed LCL long body caboose. If anyone has plans can you contact me?
Thanks -- Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne.
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Re: Photo: PRR Gondola 2785 (1916)
Jack Mullen
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 09:34 AM, Dave Parker wrote:
I think it's a P&R car, number 27185Sure is. Small lettering in the leftmost panel reads PHILADELPHIA AND READING RAILWAY CO. The class, GHc is to the left of the car number. Take a look at the bad rust and paint failure on the side sill, a common problem for early steel cars. Jack Mullen
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Southern Rwy 41'9" steel gondolas
anthony wagner
Looked everywhere I could think of for photos of the subject cars - no luck. If anyone has a photo of SOU 17500-178197, 287000-287999, or 315700-315949 series gondolas circa 1940s or 50s that they would share I would be very appreciative. There were enough of them that they would not have been a rare car on a layout set in 1949. any help would be welcome. Thanks, Tony ,Wagner
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