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NP Boxcar Completed

Gene Deimling
 

https://myp48.wordpress.com/2021/04/03/modeling-mid-century-composite-boxcar-completed/
Lee Turner finishes a boxcar I built.
Please take a look.

Gene Deimling


Re: Southern Rwy 41'9" steel gondolas

Allan Smith
 

I found this add for Enterprise Railway Equipment. Not a clear picture but a start.

Al Smith
Sonora CA


On Friday, April 2, 2021, 11:11:48 AM PDT, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


I would check Bob's photos at 606-845-3323 or Arnold Menke at ,waspman@...>
You should find them there
feton

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 1:02 PM anthony wagner <anycw1@...> wrote:
Looked everywhere I could think of for photos of the subject cars - no luck. If anyone has a photo of SOU 17500-178197, 287000-287999, or 315700-315949 series gondolas circa 1940s or 50s that they would share I would be very appreciative. There were enough of them that they would not have been a rare car on a layout set in 1949. any help would be welcome. Thanks, Tony ,Wagner



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Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR

Douglas Harding
 

In a conversation with Dave Grandt, when I was writing a review of the kit for RMC (Jan 2002), he told me the two kits were based on oil jobbers he saw and photographed in Colorado, New Mexico and Texas. There was not a specific prototype, but rather a compilation of a number of oil jobbers. Conoco was a major company in that area as well as Texaco. The warehouse with its corrugated roof and siding, along with the open porch platform certainly looks like it is from that region of the country. The kit with the tanks and truck filling stand can be used almost anywhere.

 

The Quincy CA kits were done by Campbell.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 1:09 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR

 

Bill Hirt wrote:

Wasn't these 2 kits based on the series of articles that Rail Model Journal published circa 1997 about oil distributors? I remember some of the articles had scale plans of oil distributor warehouses. There was also one article where the owners of the oil jobbers talked about the rail traffic into their business.

No, that's a quite different dealer. IIRC the Grandt Lines kit was already available well before that RMJ article. I also have a faint recollection that Grandt did several structures based on prototypes in Quincy, California, including this dealer. Can anyone confirm that?

 

Tony Thompson

 

 

 


Re: Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose

Jeff Ford
 

All that roof and they still stuck the cupola at the very end.

-Jeff Ford
Sanger, TX


Re: Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose

Gene Semon <mopac1@...>
 

Did you check with the Arkansas Railroad Museum in Pine Bluff?  They reportedly have a number of records for SSW.

 

Gene S.

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 12:25 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose

 

I’ve got a laser/resin manufacturer interested in doing the Cotton Belt double sheathed LCL long body caboose.  If anyone has plans can you contact me?

 Thanks 
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Omaha, Ne.


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Re: Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose

Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
 

Man, the trainmen needed really LOOOONG legs!

Everyone have a good Easter

Dennis Storzek


Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Very nice job Gary.  If anyone is interested Gerald Glow ismiking up Flying A decals for the tank ends for me.  He would probably like to sell more.

Bill Pardie



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From: Gary Ray <gerber1926@...>
Date: 4/2/21 10:50 AM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR

Here are a couple of pictures of my Shell Oil distributor in Red Bluff, CA,
using 1 1/4" OD PVC pipe.  Rivets are from MircoMark.  Decals printed on my
ALPS.  Tanks based on picture I had from Black Butte area but I can't seem
to find it in my files right now.  Busy packing to move to Weatherford, TX.

Gary Ray
Magalia, CA


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Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR

Gary Ray
 

Here are a couple of pictures of my Shell Oil distributor in Red Bluff, CA,
using 1 1/4" OD PVC pipe. Rivets are from MircoMark. Decals printed on my
ALPS. Tanks based on picture I had from Black Butte area but I can't seem
to find it in my files right now. Busy packing to move to Weatherford, TX.

Gary Ray
Magalia, CA


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Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR

mike turner
 

Together, the two kits, Midwest Petroleum Distributors and the Raised Platform Warehouse, capture about 85% of a Texaco distributor in my home town.

--
Mike Turner
MP-Z35


Re: Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose

Steve SANDIFER
 

Like this, preserved in Ashdown, Ark.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charlie Duckworth
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 12:25 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose

 

I’ve got a laser/resin manufacturer interested in doing the Cotton Belt double sheathed LCL long body caboose.  If anyone has plans can you contact me?

 Thanks 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: ICC valuation

Richard Wilkens
 

I'm glad Ike posted his response on this subject. Since 2013 I have been the Archivist with the Spokane, Portland & Seattle Railway Archives located at the Pacific Northwest Railroad Archive at Burien, WA. We have been blessed to have a substantial amount of original SP&S records and one ledger in particular that I call the "Bible" which has copies of the ICC filings for Account 53 "Freight Train Cars" as well as passenger train cars (Account 54), work equipment (Account 57), steam locomotives (Account 51), and other locomotives (Account 52) from 1916 to 1970. In the case of the SP&S this is Form 239 so I wonder if the ICC Form 1742 that Ike provided samples of is actually the form number as used on the Southern? Anyone else have samples from other railroads?

I have attached a scan of SP&S Form 239 from December 31, 1952 and of note is that the "date of change" is unique in most cases a number simply shows 12-31-1952 and as time went on the December 31 date became more common.

As to the holdings at NARA at College Park, I have been there several times and have researched railroads from the Pacific Northwest. In the conversations I had with David Pfeifer at NARA it seems that existing records relating to equipment seem to primarily exist for railroads from the Southeastern part of the US. I'm sorry to hear that David has retired as he is a great resource.

Richard Wilkens
Archivist, SP&S Railway Historical Society


Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR

Gary Ray
 

Are these the tanks that were the Grant Line previously discussed?

Midwest Petroleum Distributors (sanjuandetails.com)

Gary Ray

Magalia, CA (soon to be Weatherford, TX)

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 7:42 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR

 

 

 

It ha been on acknowledged that the tanks in the Grandt line oil distributor kit were superior to other offerings.  They had long been 9ff the market.  A few years ago Grandt Line had a table at an O Scale convention.  I was told that the molds for the tanks had been broken and would not be replaced.

 

Subsequently I obtained a kit on E Bay.  I wanted some additional tanks so I continued to monitor the site.  A week ago I scored another kit.  When it came in I was surprised to find the instructions were labeled SAN JUAN DETAILS (FORMALLY GRANDT LINE.  This may mean that the kit is back on the market if anyone is interested.

 

Bill Pardie

 

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GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR

Andy Carlson
 

And that fuel terminal survives to at least 2 years ago when I visited the town. Tracks have been gone for quite a while, not going beyond the Sierra Pacific lumber mill which still feeds lumber by rail to the UP in the Feather River Canyon at Quincy Jct..
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Friday, April 2, 2021, 11:30:01 AM PDT, John King via groups.io <dstower1949@...> wrote:


I think it was Campbell Scale Models that did the series of buildings based on Quincy, California.  They produced both vertical and horizontal oil tanks.

 

John King

 


 

 

 


Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR

John King
 

I think it was Campbell Scale Models that did the series of buildings based on Quincy, California.  They produced both vertical and horizontal oil tanks.

 

John King

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 2:09 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR

 

Bill Hirt wrote:

Wasn't these 2 kits based on the series of articles that Rail Model Journal published circa 1997 about oil distributors? I remember some of the articles had scale plans of oil distributor warehouses. There was also one article where the owners of the oil jobbers talked about the rail traffic into their business.

No, that's a quite different dealer. IIRC the Grandt Lines kit was already available well before that RMJ article. I also have a faint recollection that Grandt did several structures based on prototypes in Quincy, California, including this dealer. Can anyone confirm that?

 

Tony Thompson

 

 

 


Re: Southern Rwy 41'9" steel gondolas

O Fenton Wells
 

I would check Bob's photos at 606-845-3323 or Arnold Menke at ,waspman@...>
You should find them there
feton

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 1:02 PM anthony wagner <anycw1@...> wrote:
Looked everywhere I could think of for photos of the subject cars - no luck. If anyone has a photo of SOU 17500-178197, 287000-287999, or 315700-315949 series gondolas circa 1940s or 50s that they would share I would be very appreciative. There were enough of them that they would not have been a rare car on a layout set in 1949. any help would be welcome. Thanks, Tony ,Wagner



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: GRANDT LINE OIL DISTRIBUTOR

Tony Thompson
 

Bill Hirt wrote:

Wasn't these 2 kits based on the series of articles that Rail Model Journal published circa 1997 about oil distributors? I remember some of the articles had scale plans of oil distributor warehouses. There was also one article where the owners of the oil jobbers talked about the rail traffic into their business.

No, that's a quite different dealer. IIRC the Grandt Lines kit was already available well before that RMJ article. I also have a faint recollection that Grandt did several structures based on prototypes in Quincy, California, including this dealer. Can anyone confirm that?

Tony Thompson




Re: Photo: Unloading Coal (Circa 1920)

John Mateyko
 

Bob,
The caption says it is a Philadelphia & Reading car.
Respectfully,
John Mateyko


Looking for plans for the SSW LCL long body caboose

Charlie Duckworth
 

I’ve got a laser/resin manufacturer interested in doing the Cotton Belt double sheathed LCL long body caboose.  If anyone has plans can you contact me?

 Thanks 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Photo: PRR Gondola 2785 (1916)

Jack Mullen
 

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 09:34 AM, Dave Parker wrote:
I think it's a P&R car, number 27185
Sure is. Small lettering in the leftmost panel reads PHILADELPHIA AND READING RAILWAY CO.
The class, GHc is to the left of the car number.

Take a look at the bad rust and paint failure on the side sill, a common problem for early steel cars.

Jack Mullen


Southern Rwy 41'9" steel gondolas

anthony wagner
 

Looked everywhere I could think of for photos of the subject cars - no luck. If anyone has a photo of SOU 17500-178197, 287000-287999, or 315700-315949 series gondolas circa 1940s or 50s that they would share I would be very appreciative. There were enough of them that they would not have been a rare car on a layout set in 1949. any help would be welcome. Thanks, Tony ,Wagner

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