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Re: True Line Trains stockcar?

Steve SANDIFER
 

This is the Proto 1000 car
http://atsfrr.net/resources/Sandifer/Clinics/Stk/Mod/P1K.htm

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----- Original Message -----
From: sctry
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:51 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: True Line Trains stockcar?


In 2004/5 Canadian Hobbycraft offered 36 ft Fowler stock car and box
cars decorated for CP and CN (multiple numbers) and packaged in Proto
1000 Series DX limited Edition display window individual boxes.
Cars feature amoung other items: diecast chassis with seperate valve,
cylinder, reservoir, Simplex bolster trucks w/ribbed back wheel
sets, "3-D Z-bars", metal grab irons, P2K couplers. The chassis is
engraved "property of Hobbycraft Canada - Made in China". Stock
cars have AB brakes whhile box cars have K.

J. Greedy

--- In STMFC@..., timboconnor@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
> I saw that too, and I also found a web site that listed a 36'
Fowler stock car from
>
> Proto 1000.
>
>
>
> The Canadian Model Trains web site does not list the TLT stock car.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Storzek" <destorzek@...>
> To: STMFC@...
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:23:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
Eastern
> Subject: [STMFC] True Line Trains stockcar?
>
> Someplace within the last several weeks I read a message that had a
> link to a photo of the up and coming Ture Line Trains CP 36'
stockcar.
> Was it here? I can't seem to find a photo of the model anywhere.
>
> The same message also had something about a True Line Trains 36'
> Dominion / Fowler boxcar. Is this a new effort, or the LifeLike of
> Canada effort warmed over?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
>


Station & Reweigh Symbols revisited

Frank Greene
 

A little research this AM led me to "Station & Reweigh Symbols.xls", Jim Brewer's list in the Files. My thanks to Jim for compiling the list and his contributors for sharing their knowledge.

To add a little to the list's accuracy, Line 1543, Southern symbol "N": Norris Yard is in Irondale, AL (near Birmingham), not S. Carolina.

In addition, Line 1545, symbol "WBY" is not identified and certainly isn't intuitively obvious. Searching a 1912 station list at http://southern.railfan.net/paper/stations/1912list.pdf didn't reveal the symbol, but it could be West Baden, IN (a yard). A really remote possibility is W&B Railway Crossing at Blocton, AL, but it's nothing more than a crossing with the Woodstock & Blocton Railway. Maybe someone out there has definitive information.

--

Frank Greene
Memphis, TN


Re: SP A-50-4 single sheathed auto car

Jim Scott
 

Mark,

Sounds like you need to pickup Tony's book on the SP Box Cars...

Jim Scott
Palo Alto, CA.




________________________________
From: Mark Pierce <marcoperforar@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:12:03 PM
Subject: [STMFC] SP A-50-4 single sheathed auto car


I picked up my accumulated vaction-hold mail at the Post Office today
and found that the SPH&TS convention car was included. This is the
Speedwitch Media kit of the A-50-4, 40' single sheathed automobile
car. It represents the upgraded version with steel ends, widened door
openings, and under-door stiffeners. It is a beautiful kit of a very
interesting prototype.

I want to build it as a 1950 version, ala Pacific Lines. By this time,
I understand, the cars were not in automobile service and so lacked the
white door stripe and the words "AUTO LOADER". But I wonder, was the
word AUTOMOBILE on the two sides still appropriate for 1950? Also, any
other advice to make it fit into 1950 would be appreciated. Thanks!

Mark Pierce


SP A-50-4 single sheathed auto car

Mark Pierce <marcoperforar@...>
 

I picked up my accumulated vaction-hold mail at the Post Office today
and found that the SPH&TS convention car was included. This is the
Speedwitch Media kit of the A-50-4, 40' single sheathed automobile
car. It represents the upgraded version with steel ends, widened door
openings, and under-door stiffeners. It is a beautiful kit of a very
interesting prototype.

I want to build it as a 1950 version, ala Pacific Lines. By this time,
I understand, the cars were not in automobile service and so lacked the
white door stripe and the words "AUTO LOADER". But I wonder, was the
word AUTOMOBILE on the two sides still appropriate for 1950? Also, any
other advice to make it fit into 1950 would be appreciated. Thanks!

Mark Pierce


Re: True Line Trains stockcar?

sctry
 

In 2004/5 Canadian Hobbycraft offered 36 ft Fowler stock car and box
cars decorated for CP and CN (multiple numbers) and packaged in Proto
1000 Series DX limited Edition display window individual boxes.
Cars feature amoung other items: diecast chassis with seperate valve,
cylinder, reservoir, Simplex bolster trucks w/ribbed back wheel
sets, "3-D Z-bars", metal grab irons, P2K couplers. The chassis is
engraved "property of Hobbycraft Canada - Made in China". Stock
cars have AB brakes whhile box cars have K.

J. Greedy



--- In STMFC@..., timboconnor@... wrote:



Dennis



I saw that too, and I also found a web site that listed a 36'
Fowler stock car from

Proto 1000.



The Canadian Model Trains web site does not list the TLT stock car.



Tim


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Storzek" <destorzek@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:23:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
Eastern
Subject: [STMFC] True Line Trains stockcar?

Someplace within the last several weeks I read a message that had a
link to a photo of the up and coming Ture Line Trains CP 36'
stockcar.
Was it here? I can't seem to find a photo of the model anywhere.

The same message also had something about a True Line Trains 36'
Dominion / Fowler boxcar. Is this a new effort, or the LifeLike of
Canada effort warmed over?

Thanks,

Dennis


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Naperville meeting

altuna1122 <cinderandeight@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Bernd Schroeder" <schroed2.bears@...>
wrote:

Hello Tom,

welcome to the wonderful world of Modelrailroading in Marklin-
Style...

basically, Marklin and Trix are the same, just that the Marklin is
the
AC-Version and Trix the DC-Version (reflecting the deeply rooted
separation
of the german HO MR scene). If you decide to replace the
underframe, it is
the same work.

as for paint removal, I seriously doubt that this can be answered
without
destructive testing (of which you have provided a thorough base
already).
I can try whether I have some success with some German products for
this
purpose on some leftover parts from a Trix boxcar which has been
reduced to
the sides in regards of useful parts (and even those require some
work,
since they are neither scale 10´ nor 10´6", but something in
between....


best regards

Bernd

firmly on the DC side of the trench


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Madden" <tgmadden@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:20 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: New stuff from Speedwitch



Union Pacific welded underframe parts set (for Trix B-50-24/27
and
Sunshine B-50-32/33)
http://www.speedwitch.com/Models/p105.htm
[snip]

UP B-50-24/27 box car decals
http://www.speedwitch.com/Decals/d125.htm
Are the Trix and Marklin B-50-24/27 the same? I bought two of the
Marklin models with the Be Specific with large UNION PACIFIC
lettering
when they first came out and would certainly use the above parts
and
decals to upgrade/backdate them. Problem is, I was unable to
strip the
one Marklin I tried using any paint stripper on hand. (Brake
fluid,
Chameleon, Scalecoat, all with ultrasonic, alcohol without
ultrasonic.)
I finally tried a light, low-angle grit blast, but that removed
the
rivets as well as the paint. So now I have one. Any ideas??

Tom Madden

Just a thought.
I'm going to be in Naperville at the PMC all this weekend and will as
usual bring along my photos to share. I'm particularily well stocked
this year, and will have over 11000 5X7 prints with me, so stop by
and check them out in the vendor's room and chat freight cars with me.
As mentioned in a previous post, I am looking for photos of Michigan
Central freight cars for a project. I'll have the binder of my
photos collected to date with me if anyone is interested. There are
many of Lot numbers I still lack photos for. In some cases other
lots were essencially identical cars, but in a few cases I've never
seen what a given design looks like beyond the car diagrams. I'm
including a good number of pre-Lot system (1906) photos as well.
Rich Burg
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Re: Please explain this: SP 40' boxcar in "white" livree ?

Enzo Fortuna <babbo_enzo@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Paul" <buygone@...> wrote:
It's not white but MW Gray. At the time the picture was taken
the car in question was in maintaince of way service.
Paul C. Koehler
site "Boxcars & Freight Cars of North America"
http://www.boxcars.us/SP-SZ/pages/image013.html
Some explanation for the unusual paint color ?
Thanks
Enzo Fortuna (Italy)
Sorry, I stand correct! My fault!
I've already found the same car on Lee A. Gautreaux site!
Just have not pay attention to MW number.
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/photos/sp/spmw2417_matthew_bushong.jpg
Thanks anyway.
Enzo Fortuna (Italy)


Re: Lists of freight car models

rdietrichson
 

Claus,
Contact me off line at Rdietrichson@... and send you my list.
Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: Claus Schlund (HGM)
To: STMFC@...
Cc: Rdietrichson@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Lists of freight car models


Hi Rick,

So could you direct us to where we might see a copy of your work on the topic?

Inquiring minds want to know...

Thanks - Claus Schlund

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jenrick [mailto:Rdietrichson@...]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:16 AM
>To: STMFC@...
>Subject: Re: [STMFC] Lists of freight car models
>
>Frank,
>I compiled a list showing cars that are or can be converted to Santa Fe prototypes, but know of no overall listing.
>You have to go to each historical society and check each fo a listing.
>Rick Dietrichson
>Wilmington, NC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: destron@...
> To: STMFC@...
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:28 PM
> Subject: [STMFC] Lists of freight car models
>
>
>
> I know there have been a number of lists made of HO scale models available
> and accuracies thereof... has any such thing been done for N scale models?
>
> Frank Valoczy
> Vancouver, BC
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Please explain this: SP 40' boxcar in "white" livree ?

Paul <buygone@...>
 

Enzo:



It's not white but MW Gray. At the time the picture was taken the car in
question was in maintaince of way service.



Paul C. Koehler



_____

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Enzo
Fortuna
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:38 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Please explain this: SP 40' boxcar in "white" livree ?



In search of pictures of Sp cars, I fall on the
http://www.boxcars. <http://www.boxcars.us/index.html> us/index.html
site "Boxcars & Freight Cars of North America"
Inside the SP section found this:
http://www.boxcars. <http://www.boxcars.us/SP-SZ/pages/image013.html>
us/SP-SZ/pages/image013.html
Some explanation for the unusual paint color ?
Thanks
Enzo Fortuna (Italy)


Re: Standard Tank Cars (2 dome)

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

Speaking of two dome tank cars can someone help my bad memory. Some years ago I pick-up (ebay I think) a brass model by Ajin. It appears to be 8K and has some very narrow tread wheels (less than .088, maybe scale) on it. Does anyone know who's car this is? Also is it accurate?

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


B&O spread its freight car parts around

James Mischke <jmischke@...>
 

I am looking at the specifications for B&O class M-58a 50'
double door boxcar, 297000-499, 500 cars, built 1947. Section
is called "Split Specialties" and shows how B&O distributed
vendor parts to suppliers.


1. Air Brakes - New York Air Brake 100, Westinghouse 400

2. Paint - Thresher 100, Pittsburgh Plate Glass 400

3. Running boards - Morton 1 (sample car 297000), Apex 499

4. Trucks - Ride Control 100, National Malleable 100, Barber 300

5. Wheels - ARMCO 100, Carnegie Illinois 400

6. Bolsters and side frames - American Steel Foundries 100,
National Malleable 100, Buckeye 300

7. Journal Bearings - Magnus 100, National Bearing 400

8. Brake Beams - Buffalo 100, Nat'l. Malleable 100, Chicago
100, Buffalo #15 200


In addition there were two different brake regulators, two
regulator support brackets, two cylinder levers, two floating
levers, two brake diagram plates, three spring specifications,
three brake beam hangers, three truck levers, three bottom rod
guards. Many of these seemed to accompany the three different
truck designs.


This shows how hard it is to divine boxcar hardware from a
single photo. And how misleading a builders photo of a sample
car (the first one) can be. The first M-58a was the only one
with Morton running boards but it is the most circulated photo.


Source is the Barriger library in St. Louis. Documents
originally saved by Ed Hawkins.


Standard Tank Cars from SC&F

Jon Cagle <jscagle@...>
 

Greetings Group:

Thought I would take some time out this morning to let you all know the progress of the HO Scale Standard Tank Car project that I have been working on. It's done. No, this is not my attempt at humor. It's for real, the tank cars are in production and will be ready for shipment mid November ( It kind of resembles Sharon, PA around here. )

The first two tank car types that will be available are the 8K gallon 6 course radial course tank car, which will have decals for Spencer Kellogg; and the other car will be the 8K gallon two compartment car( two dome) which will have decals to represent GATX 1638. There will be 3 other versions to follow after these have been released. There will be an 8K Insulated version, an 8K 5 course radial car, and a 6K gallon radial course car.

The kit features are: one piece cast frame, one piece cast running boards, two part tank with dome(s) already cast into place. Etched brass steps, Intermountain and Tichy Train Group styrene parts for brake systems ( which include both "K" and "AB" brake systems), ladders, etc. Kadee #78 couplers and decals done by Ted Culotta of Speedwitch Media ( nicely done I might add ).

Instructions are being prepared at this time. I will be in Naperville accepting orders and also showing everyone how easy these kits are to put together. I will have a few production kits on hand for people to review and play with as well. The kits will retail for $49.00 plus $7.50 shipping and handling for up to 3 kits. And since there are always more than one tank car in a train, I will offer a baker's dozen to anyone willing to purchase 12 at one time. A bakers dozen is 13.

You will not find any of this information on the web site as it is under a complete re-construction at this time.

Last but certainly not least a Big Sincere Thank You goes to Mr. Richard Hendrickson and Mr. Gene Green for supplying the technical information and documentation to make this project happen. And also Ted Culotta for creating the artwork for the decals. Thank You Gentlemen.

Thank you all for your patience and I look forward to seeing those who will be in Naperville. Don't forget about Cocoa Beach guys, there will be lots of boxes filled with tankcars and I will debut another release there as well. ( hhmmm, i wonder which one it will be, the 6K car, the insulated car, only the Shadow knows ).

For additional information you can contact me at the3dworkshop@...

see ya,
jon


Re: Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's Photo, and Paul Dunn

altuna1122 <cinderandeight@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Gatwood, Elden J SAD "
<elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:

Guys;



Is Dick Kuelbs still providing photos, and if not, who has his
collection?



Also, who currently administers Paul Winters' collection?



Thanks,



Elden Gatwood

Fellow members,
My phone number (for those who were looking for me) is 810 743
1003.
I don't have a phone book for heaven, so I can't help with Paul
Dunn's number. He passed away in the mid 1980's. I own about 1500
of his freight car negatives (and a couple hundred PRR diesel shots
too). I sell prints of the freight cars, so if that is your interest
contact me directly.
Richard Burg



________________________________

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On
Behalf Of
Anthony Thompson
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:45 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Seeking Good Phone Numbers for Burg, Bob's
Photo,
and Paul Dunn



jim_mischke wrote:> > The Winters freight car photos were mostly
taken by fellow Kansas
City resident Gene Sisk . . .
That would be GEORGE Sisk.

Harold Vollrath and Charlie Winters traded copy negatives of
their
collections to each other, but this is mostly steam locomotives,
their
mutual favorite subject.
Entirely true, but Harold has at least a few of the Winters
images. Joe Collias, who was a big help to Charlie in his last
days,
also has at least prints if not copy negatives of many of the
Winters
images, including freight cars.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
<mailto:thompson%40signaturepress.com>
Publishers of books on railroad history







Please explain this: SP 40' boxcar in "white" livree ?

Enzo Fortuna <babbo_enzo@...>
 

In search of pictures of Sp cars, I fall on the
http://www.boxcars.us/index.html
site "Boxcars & Freight Cars of North America"
Inside the SP section found this:
http://www.boxcars.us/SP-SZ/pages/image013.html
Some explanation for the unusual paint color ?
Thanks
Enzo Fortuna (Italy)


Re: Article of Interest - SP Flatcars

Paul <buygone@...>
 

Ben:



On behalf of Pat Bray and the SPH&TS thanks for the nice plug on our
magazine.



Paul C. Koehler



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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
benjaminfrank_hom
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:02 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Article of Interest - SP Flatcars



The Fall 2008 issue of the SP society's SP Trainline has a very
intersting article by Pat Bray on "How to Model a 1960s Era MUG
Train". As the title indicates, it's written in the context of cars in
service in the 1960s and covers some prototypes beyond the scope of
this list, but it does have write-ups on improving the appearance of
the Red Caboose Class F-70-7 flatcar, creative use of the Mantua/Tyco
50 ft flats (not to be confused with the ex-Lindberg flat in the
Mantua "Heavies" line) as stand-in models, and some really neat
scratchbuilding techniques for welded flatcars.
http://tinyurl. <http://tinyurl.com/5o5w2p> com/5o5w2p

Ben Hom


Article of Interest - SP Flatcars

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

The Fall 2008 issue of the SP society's SP Trainline has a very
intersting article by Pat Bray on "How to Model a 1960s Era MUG
Train". As the title indicates, it's written in the context of cars in
service in the 1960s and covers some prototypes beyond the scope of
this list, but it does have write-ups on improving the appearance of
the Red Caboose Class F-70-7 flatcar, creative use of the Mantua/Tyco
50 ft flats (not to be confused with the ex-Lindberg flat in the
Mantua "Heavies" line) as stand-in models, and some really neat
scratchbuilding techniques for welded flatcars.
http://tinyurl.com/5o5w2p


Ben Hom


Re: New stuff from Speedwitch

Fritz Milhaupt
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Dave Nelson" <Lake_Muskoka@...> wrote:

Ted, nice to see a PM car being done. IMO they had a very interesting
looking boxcar fleet. I see I'll have to do some saving before I
can spring
for one of these models....

Dave Nelson

"Interesting" is a very kind way of putting it. Some of us might
phrase it as "frustrating combination of heights, ends and roofs" once
you get away from some of the steel boxcars...

I'm positively ecstatic to see this car come out. It's a signature car
of the PM boxcar fleet, and the only design of PM wooden boxcar to
still exist in any quantity. Examples still exist at the B&O Museum in
Baltimore, a park in Taylor, Michigan, the Steam Railroading Institute
(SRI) in Owosso, Michigan, and a couple on a stretch of neglected
track in Ludington, Michigan. The one at SRI was in pretty poor shape
when they got it, and the conventional thought is that it is beyond
reasonable repair.

I'm actually glad that it took a while to get this model out, since it
gave me a chance to stash away the money for the first ten I'll need...

-Fritz Milhaupt
Web Guy and Modeling Editor, Pere Marquette Historical Society, Inc.
http://www.pmhistsoc.org


Pere Marquette freight cars in N scale

destron@...
 

First off a question: they aren't in the Revenue Freight cars book, but do
Atlas' 70-ton ore cars in Pere Marquette lettering (#39990A, road #CF1512;
#39991A, road #CF1523) have a prototype?

Beyond that, I've started poking through what's available in N scale to
determine what could be used as basis models for modelling PM freight
cars... here's the list I've made so far. If anyone has tips for others,
or better solutions to the ones I've listed, I'd love to hear it!

13000-13999
14000-14499 - Microtrains twin hopper: The picture on the website is
small, but looks right at a quick inspection.

16000-16099 - Red Caboose USRA flatcar: overall a good basis I think, only
would have to rearrange the stake pockets and the brake staff to make an
accurate model.

17000-17249
17250-17649 - Intermountain USRA drop-bottom gon: I think this will need a
little bit of tweaking, but the general appearance looks right. I picked
one of these kits up today, so will be attempting to build one of these
cars first.

20000-20024
20025-20049
20050-20149 - Deluxe Innovations ACF 2-Bay covered hopper: The pictures on
the website are small, but overall look right enough to use as a basis for
these PM cars

72200-72399 - Intermountain 50' AAR double-door boxcar: this would I think
be a standin at best, judging from the photos of the model (which are
here, too, almost uselessly small on the website, so it may be better than
I think, or conversely worse than I think).

80000-81999 - Atlas USRA double-sheath car: pretty much as-is, I think,
apart from detailing.

82000-83499 - Red Caboose X29 with Dreadnaught ends and Youngstown doors:
the handbrake and roof are wrong, but this is probably fixable. The
dimensions of the X29 and the 82000srs cars are pretty close (in the April
1942 ORER), and appearance-wise, it looks like this model could serve
(with modification) to represent the first PM all-steel boxcars.

83500-83649
83650-83799
83800-83999
84100-84399 - Intermountain 40' 1937 AAR boxcar. With IM's interchangeable
parts, the differences in ends and doors shouldn't be an issue, I don't
think, if they have a 4/5 W end and both 7-panel Superior and 5-7-5
Youngstown doors.

85000-85999
86000-87499 - Atlas USRA double-sheath car: for the single-door versions
the Atlas car could serve as a starting point for a kitbash. The Vulcan
and Hutchins ends would of course have to be scratchbuilt, and steel-door
versions would need the doors changed... even the door-and-a-half versions
could be done, I think, with the Atlas model as a basis. I'm planning to
do several of these over the next while (as I can get my hands on the
models!)

That's it for now, still need to look at available steel gondola models.
If there's one or two available that could serve as basis models, I think
with a bit of effort a good representation of the PM's freight car fleet
can be made in 1:160. :)

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC


MaTrix boxcars, was Re: Re: New stuff from Speedwitch

Bernd Schroeder
 

Hello Tom,

welcome to the wonderful world of Modelrailroading in Marklin-Style...

basically, Marklin and Trix are the same, just that the Marklin is the AC-Version and Trix the DC-Version (reflecting the deeply rooted separation of the german HO MR scene). If you decide to replace the underframe, it is the same work.

as for paint removal, I seriously doubt that this can be answered without destructive testing (of which you have provided a thorough base already).
I can try whether I have some success with some German products for this purpose on some leftover parts from a Trix boxcar which has been reduced to the sides in regards of useful parts (and even those require some work, since they are neither scale 10� nor 10�6", but something in between....


best regards

Bernd

firmly on the DC side of the trench

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Madden" <tgmadden@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:20 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: New stuff from Speedwitch



Union Pacific welded underframe parts set (for Trix B-50-24/27 and
Sunshine B-50-32/33)
http://www.speedwitch.com/Models/p105.htm
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UP B-50-24/27 box car decals
http://www.speedwitch.com/Decals/d125.htm
Are the Trix and Marklin B-50-24/27 the same? I bought two of the
Marklin models with the Be Specific with large UNION PACIFIC lettering
when they first came out and would certainly use the above parts and
decals to upgrade/backdate them. Problem is, I was unable to strip the
one Marklin I tried using any paint stripper on hand. (Brake fluid,
Chameleon, Scalecoat, all with ultrasonic, alcohol without ultrasonic.)
I finally tried a light, low-angle grit blast, but that removed the
rivets as well as the paint. So now I have one. Any ideas??

Tom Madden


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