Brian,
 
         Thanks. I have two of those cars and will check the trucks. Guess he rest of us will hope Tahoe takes up the challenge of producing them. Doing some late night reading I discovered I will 8 sets to finish a project. Won't be the first time I've re-boxed a kit to wait for correct parts.
 
Fred Freitas

Just thought I would point out that Wabash flat car ahead
of the boat flat -- from series 450-599, GSC cast steel flats.
Mont Switzer wrote a kitbash article in Mainline Modeler,
May 1993. I don't recall the built date of these Wabash
flat cars. Anyone know?

Tim O'Connor

Fred,

I think that Intermountain did the Barber S-2-P truck for their Pfaudler milk car. No one has done the Chrysler truck.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV

One of the Pennsy Diesel Years has a photo just like it! 1 engine, 1 flat and the cabin car.  Dennis

Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

I know that many of you know that Athearn did this model. Here is proof of the Real Thing . . .

There is a photo of the same kind of load, from MUCH closer, in my vol. 3 on SP flat cars.

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--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

Responding to a message more than 24 hours later almost guarantees that someone else has responded
before, but CJ Riley asked, with respect to polished freight car wheel rims:

I thought of [self-guiding frogs], but how common were they back then?

When the ERIE got the Russian Decapods, they were not regauged from 5'-0" Russian gauge, rather they
were fitted with wide driver tires. It's only 1/75" on each side to make up the difference. This
all went pretty well until one of the Russian Decs encountered a yard full of self-guarded frogs.
It was apparently a very noisy, and bumpy, experience.

So self-guarded frogs are at least from the late teens.

SGL

The Frisco Russian Decapods were the same; the driver tires are about 7-1/2" wide. According the the late Dave Shore, who was riding as custodian of the 1630 from Eagle Pitcher to IRM in Union, the same thing happened enroute, even though the carrier had been forwarned. Dave was riding the caboose right behind the engine when all of a sudden there was a BANG, and the engine appeared to jump in the air. It happened again before they got the train stopped. No damage to the engine, but it broke the flange off both frogs.

Dennis

Following the recent thread about ATSF flats in Canada . . . .

I know that many of you know that Athearn did this model. Here is proof of the Real Thing, though
this shot is in some future time for this list.

Unfortunately, I cannot make out the markings on this flat, or we could discuss whether the flat had
been routed back toward its owning road or not . . .


http://railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=217153&nseq=28

SGL
La vita e breve, mangiate prima il dolce!

Hello,
     Have been trying to learn more of the Calif.Dispatch Co.and was wondering if any books or historical publications were ever written on the subject.
   I understand that the Company was absorbed into the GATC in or around 1954 ,but when did they originate and did they handle freight cars other than tank cars.
                                                                                  Dan Gledhill


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Richard, I was afraid of that.

Okay, to narrow it down, the consists are specifically from November 1955 to July 1956.

As far as the cars that I have been unable to identify, they are:

November 1955
ATSF 7434
ATSF 7518
ATSF 11095
ATSF 16120
ATSF 16160
ATSF 16178
ATSF 16193

January 1956
ATSF 7450
ATSF 33285

February 1956
ATSF 11117

March 1956
ATSF 17377
ATSF 30924
ATSF 33644

July 1956
ATSF 7201
ATSF 7510
ATSF 7581

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Rob Erickson

Marc Entze, please contact me off list.

Walter M. Clark
Time stopped in November 1941
Pullman, Washington, USA

Does any one know of a source for CB&T reefer decals with the large circle
herald? I have one set # HO-D0017 but I need at least 5 more sets with the
large herald. I'm doing a Ga-117 that has the large & small heralds along with
Ship & Travel Santa Fe. Thanks, Tom Chenoweth
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On Mar 7, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Rob Erickson wrote:

Group, I am trying to identify several cars listed in a conductor's
transcribed consist lists. Can someone please tell me what the
number series for the following ATSF classes of Auto/Furniture
cars, circa 1950-1957: Fe-8; Fe-21; Fe-22; Fe-23; Fe-27; Fe-28;
Fe-29; Bx-11;
Bx-12; Bx-13; Bx-40. I would like to model some of these cars, to
create representative consists, and would like to know what kits
would be appropriate.

Rob, this isn't nearly as easy as you may have thought. In the 1950s
almost all of the Santa Fe Fe- classes, as well as the 50' Bx-40s,
included cars that were in assigned service which had been renumbered
out of the original number series – often several times, as many were
auto parts cars whose special loading equipment was changed every
time a new model auto came out. So the numbers are scattered all
over the place in unrelated number series. Also, there were three
groups of Bx-12s, each with a different number series: those that
remained as built, those that had been rebuilt with 6" extended roof
height, and those that had been rebuilt with 12" extended roof
height. As for the Bx-13s, they were originally composite single-
sheathed cars but were rebuilt in the early 1950s with all steel
bodies on their original underframes. I can provide many answers to
your query (though probably not all) if you will give me an exact
date. But "circa 1950'1957"? Not a chance.

Richard Hendrickson



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--- In STMFC@..., <briankd.usf.net@...> wrote:

Thanks to the recent RPC publication, I have started working on two F&C 1927 ob BAR boxcar kits. My question, I am perplexed with which emblem to use on the car, the one in white lettering and outlines, or the inverse style (white emblem with the lettering cut out ). The instruction sheet doesn't cover this and having looked for an answer I could use some educating from folks who know. I am modeling 1953. Also, are there a better set of decals available for these cars? Thanks in advance for any help people can provide. Brian Dick

Brian: Were there not some photos with the instructions? I've built one and the B&M version too. It seems there were photos included then. Watch out for the staightness of the roof casting on these kits. The thickness sometimes varies. When I installed the roof walk I found I had built a double-ended Olympic ski jump ramp.

There was an article in Mainline Dec '86 and try these links;
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/displayimage.php?i=20172#
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/displayimage.php?i=20229#
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/displayimage.php?i=20200# (ca.1950)
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/displayimage.php?i=20276# (ca.1954)
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/displayimage.php?i=20260#
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/displayimage.php?i=20278# (ca.1957)

Stephan Parachuk
Toronto

--- In STMFC@..., "mcindoefalls" <mcindoefalls@...> wrote:

Gentlemen, feast your eyes on this assortment of STMFC's. Wood as far as the eye can see:

http://www.shorpy.com/node/5663?size=_original

And, have we seen this Delano frame of Proviso, yet?

http://www.shorpy.com/node/3358?size=_original

Walt Lankenau

Walt: Good finds, both!

Stephan Parachuk
Toronto

Gentlemen, feast your eyes on this assortment of STMFC's. Wood as far as the eye can see:

http://www.shorpy.com/node/5663?size=_original

And, have we seen this Delano frame of Proviso, yet?

http://www.shorpy.com/node/3358?size=_original

Walt Lankenau

Thanks to the recent RPC publication, I have started working on two F&C 1927 ob BAR boxcar kits. My question, I am perplexed with which emblem to use on the car, the one in white lettering and outlines, or the inverse style (white emblem with the lettering cut out ). The instruction sheet doesn't cover this and having looked for an answer I could use some educating from folks who know. I am modeling 1953. Also, are there a better set of decals available for these cars? Thanks in advance for any help people can provide. Brian Dick


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Group, I am trying to identify several cars listed in a conductor's transcribed consist lists. Can someone please tell me what the number series for the following ATSF classes of Auto/Furniture cars, circa 1950-1957: Fe-8; Fe-21; Fe-22; Fe-23; Fe-27; Fe-28; Fe-29; Bx-11;
Bx-12; Bx-13; Bx-40. I would like to model some of these cars, to create representative consists, and would like to know what kits would be appropriate.

Thank you, Rob Erickson

I just rec'd an order of Champ decals, including HB-335, which is a NYC "Early Bird" box car. Included in the pack is a pair of decals that I cannot identify. They are white circles, with a white "X" in the the middle (similar to railroad crossing signs) and the word "Brake" in the middle of the "X". The circles are 3' in diameter. I have no idea where these are to go, but the artwork includes the HB-335 number to identify them as going in the set.

Any NYC experts out there who know what these are for?

Steve Kay

--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

But generally, I
can find things within maybe five minutes or so.

I've found some 15-20 years later. I still cringe when I remember a family member told me - ".....the dog had a piece of wire in her coat".

I've stepped on a few missing parts bare foot. Once someone had to pull out a short length of wire with a pliers.

Ed

Brian,
_http://rr-fallenflags.org_ (http://rr-fallenflags.org) shows XM #1424
with NO herald in a 1950's photo.
That's the best I can do for you.
Chuck Hladik
Rutland Railroad
Virginia Division