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Re: Piano Wire
Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
--- In STMFC@..., timboconnor@... wrote:
Tim, I donno, I've never bought from them. I would suspect, however, that they do the same as McMaster Carr does with rod and bar stock, and put it in a 6' long mailling tube. I'm a little put out that they show a whole chart of cut lengths, but don't have any prices (well, they do show $0.00, but that's not much help) Clicking on the price seems to be what you do to build the order, so it seems that no value, no stock. I bet you can get a whole bunch of different sizes shipped for the same $9 :-) Dennis
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Re: Piano Wire
looks great... but I am puzzled. How can they ship a single piece of
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straight wire that is 6 feet long? The shipping charge is $9 to my house for one length of wire. Tim O'
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From: "Dennis Storzek" <destorzek@...> Try Small Parts at:
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Piano Wire
Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
--- In STMFC@..., "ed_mines" <ed_mines@...> wrote:
Try Small Parts at: http://tinyurl.com/2ckur2 Many diameters from .003" to 1/8" Dennis
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Re: Coal Hoppers on the M&StL
rwitt_2000 <rmwitt@...>
Bob Karig wrote:
73700. This should help you identify the vintage of the M&StL car.< Another observation I made after enlarging the photo a little http://www.sjcook.com/trains/mccall/misc/msl0105.jpg <http://www.sjcook.com/trains/mccall/misc/msl0105.jpg> . It appears that these hoppers received new hand holds on their ends and this explains the "extra" end brace noted in the discussion. The "additional" end brace is actually the right hand stile for the replacement hand holds. The replacement hand holds are apparently narrower than those applied to the original cars. Bob Witt
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Re: Coal Hoppers on the M&StL
Bob Karig <karig@...>
Doug,
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Note the different number of grab irons on the ends of cars 73699 and 73700. This should help you identify the vintage of the M&StL car. Bob
At 08:20 AM 1/3/2008, you wrote:
Thanks to Ben, Bob and Bob. We have a definate answer, and photos. This will
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Re: ADMIN: needles
Jon Cagle <jscagle@...>
Gee Mike:
I thought you where referring to how you are doing right now, on "pins and needles" with the meet starting up. jon To: STMFC@...: brockm@...: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 08:55:57 -0500Subject: [STMFC] ADMIN: needles Todd Stearns writes:"By the way, the "dirty needle" problem is caused by drug addicts, not dumb laws. Though NY does have it's share of both."OK, guys, this thread is moving away from steam era frt cars and into politics...most definitely a subject prohibited from the STMFC. Therefore, the thread is now terminated.Mike BrockSTMFC Owner
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ADMIN: needles
Mike Brock <brockm@...>
Todd Stearns writes:
"By the way, the "dirty needle" problem is caused by drug addicts, not dumb laws. Though NY does have it's share of both." OK, guys, this thread is moving away from steam era frt cars and into politics...most definitely a subject prohibited from the STMFC. Therefore, the thread is now terminated. Mike Brock STMFC Owner
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Re: Coal Hoppers on the M&StL
Douglas Harding <dharding@...>
Thanks to Ben, Bob and Bob. We have a definate answer, and photos. This will
give Clark and I something to chew on at Cocoa Beach. By the way arrived in Florida late Wed. night, was 39 degrees when I landed, so don't feel too sorry for us. Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 1/2/2008 11:29 AM
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Pink Blush Weathering
asychis@...
In a message dated 1/3/2008 5:06:02 A.M. Central Standard Time,
STMFC@... writes: Anyone know of situations that led to pink blush coloured weathering on a freight car? Well, not a freight car per se, but anyone who saw Magor-type C&EI cabooses in the late 1970s on the MoPac after the merger would have a good case for red paint weathering to pink. Jerry Michels **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)
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Re: giving a face lift
Todd Stearns <toddsyr@...>
Okay, looks like I stand corrected. It used to be illegal though, except of course with a medical need. I just wanted to warn folks because I didn't want anyone getting into trouble. By the way, the "dirty needle" problem is caused by drug addicts, not dumb laws. Though NY does have it's share of both.
Todd K. Stearns
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hypodermic needles
ed_mines
I used to use 'em a lot in work. We didn't need pointy ones, but
they're much cheaper (<$20/case of 100) than the ones cut flush. They're really nasty bastards to have around. Even with the protective tips you get stuck a lot. Can the average Joe get a small piece of piano wire less than 15 mils? Ed
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Re: giving a face lift
Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
Not true in NYS.
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http://www.health.state.ny.us/diseases/aids/harm_reduction/needles_syringes/esap/pharm.htm Brian J Carlson P.E. Cheektowaga NY
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Todd Stearns wrote:Just a note. I'm pretty sure possession of a hypodermic needle in NYI doubt it. Many diabetics and others have to give themselves
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Re: giving a face lift
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Todd Stearns wrote:
Just a note. I'm pretty sure possession of a hypodermic needle in NY state by non-medical personnel is a felony.I doubt it. Many diabetics and others have to give themselves injections. But it might require a prescription. Either way, it's a dumb law--that's what's caused all the "dirty needle" problems with addicts. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: giving a face lift
Schuyler Larrabee
Not . . . . .necessarily. Many states changed that law to cater to the druggies, and help keep
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hepatitis and AIDS transmission down, and it has helped. But that should be checked. IIRC, you can buy them in CVS here in Massachusetts. SGL
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Re: giving a face lift
Todd Stearns <toddsyr@...>
Just a note. I'm pretty sure possession of a hypodermic needle in NY state by non-medical personnel is a felony.
Todd K. Stearns
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Re: Coal Hoppers on the M&StL
rwitt_2000 <rmwitt@...>
Bob Karig wrote:
photo of one of these cars built by Standard Steel, which I got from KeithRetterer. I also agree with Ben's reply. Here is another photo more clearly showing the end with its three braces. http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/ccc&stl-73700.jpg Bob Witt
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Re: Time Periods for Different Truck Types
FYI,
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IN "O" scale 5 out of 6 truck styles I have built have spring planks. Rich Yoder 7 Edgedale Court Wyomissing PA 19610-1913 610-678-2834 after 6:00PM est until 10:00PM www.richyodermodels.com
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:09 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Time Periods for Different Truck Types --- In STMFC@..., "Tony Higgins" <earthman92853@...> wrote: The spring plank is/was a channel section that runs between the bottom of the side frames, each end located directly under the spring seats. These were sometimes made from structural channel, sometimes from a steel pressing, and were originally a wooden plank, thus the name. In the old time swing motion trucks this plank actually hung free of the truck frame and held the springs the bolster was supported by. When swing motion freightcar trucks fell out of favor (too much complexity, too many wear points) the spring plank was retained with so called rigid frame trucks, which is what almost all cast sideframe freight trucks are. The purpose for retaining the spring plank was to keep the bottoms of the sideframes in line. However, improvements to the form and fit of the gibs that hold the bolster in the sideframes made the spring plank unnecessary, and the use was dropped shortly before WWII again to reduce weight and complexity. Most one piece model trucks don't attempt to model the spring plank between the sideframes, due to the complexity it would cause to the part. Typically, only the ends are modeled where they show under the springs on the outside of the sideframe; both the Accurail "Bettendorf" and Andrews trucks have this detail. One could, of course, fit the spring plank between the sideframes, but then getting to the truck screw would be problematic. Dennis Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Hypodermic needle drills???
Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
--- In STMFC@..., "Tom Madden" <tgmadden@...> wrote:
Tom, Side, spun. Actually, piano wire is way cheaper. Just cut it on the diagonal with a cut-off wheel, then grind on a long flat point. It's an easy way to make a bastard single lip cutter, but they work fine in soft materials like styrene and resin. The real way to make a single lip cutter would be to grind the end to a cone, the grind half the diameter away. In reality, the conical point should also have a slight spiral to provide relief for the single cutting edge, but in soft material it doesn't really make any difference. The wire with diagonal points work great in variable speed motor tools, but cut a bit slowly to use with a hand pin vise. What actually happens is the point starts scraping away at the material around the dimple, or pin prick used as a starting mark. As the point goes down, the cylindrical side of the wire forces the point over, so that when the full surface of the wire is in the material, it's centered on the spot the point first entered. Of course, when the full depth of the point is in the work, there is no longer anyplace for the chips (in this case scrapings) to go, but typically by this time the point is coming through the other side of the material, so it doesn't make much difference. These are not for really deep holes. The only thing to watch is that the speed of the drill doesn't melt the surrounding plastic. Dennis
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Hypodermic needle drills???
Tom Madden <tgmadden@...>
Philip Dove wrote:
[Snip] ...many of the tips she gave were very good, they including usingWhoa! Let's hear more about this. Are we talking about sharply pointed needles with the hole in the side of the tapered tip, or ones that aren't tapered and the hole is in the end? I've used the latter for drawing liquid samples for analysis, but they've tended to be larger sizes. And do you spin, or just push the needle through the material? You learn something new every day. Sometimes two things. I never thought much about spring planks, now I know what they are. Then this needle thing..... Tom Madden
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Re: Time Periods for Different Truck Types
Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
--- In STMFC@..., "Tony Higgins" <earthman92853@...> wrote:
The spring plank is/was a channel section that runs between the bottom of the side frames, each end located directly under the spring seats. These were sometimes made from structural channel, sometimes from a steel pressing, and were originally a wooden plank, thus the name. In the old time swing motion trucks this plank actually hung free of the truck frame and held the springs the bolster was supported by. When swing motion freightcar trucks fell out of favor (too much complexity, too many wear points) the spring plank was retained with so called rigid frame trucks, which is what almost all cast sideframe freight trucks are. The purpose for retaining the spring plank was to keep the bottoms of the sideframes in line. However, improvements to the form and fit of the gibs that hold the bolster in the sideframes made the spring plank unnecessary, and the use was dropped shortly before WWII again to reduce weight and complexity. Most one piece model trucks don't attempt to model the spring plank between the sideframes, due to the complexity it would cause to the part. Typically, only the ends are modeled where they show under the springs on the outside of the sideframe; both the Accurail "Bettendorf" and Andrews trucks have this detail. One could, of course, fit the spring plank between the sideframes, but then getting to the truck screw would be problematic. Dennis
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