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Kadee #58 couplers...

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

In a clinic at yesterday's Sunshine 2008 Prototype Modelers Meeting in
Pleasanton, Richard Hendrickson advocated the conversion from Kadee #5
couplers to Kadee #58 couplers. I've resisted doing this conversion for many
years since nearly all of my coupler boxes are glued in place. However, I'm
beginning to waver.

One concern however...if though I have permanent uncoupling ramps installed
everywhere generally needed, operators don't use them, using bamboo skewers
instead. My question then...for those who use the #58 couplers and
OPERATE...can the #58 couplers be uncoupled with a bamboo skewer similar to
the #5s?

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: Sunsnine kits website

Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

Thanks for telling me. I'll upload a fresh copy later today.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon



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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Andy
Miller
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:34 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Sunsnine kits website



Jim,

Thanx for the good work, but the "Main price List" un der "CURRENT PRICE
LISTS" won't down load. I keep getting a messge that "The file is damaged
and can not be repaired".

regards,

Andy Miller,___


Re: Sunsnine kits website

Andy Miller <aslmmiller@...>
 

Jim,

Thanx for the good work, but the "Main price List" un der "CURRENT PRICE LISTS" won't down load. I keep getting a messge that "The file is damaged and can not be repaired".

regards,

Andy Miller

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim & Lisa Hayes
To: STMFC@... ; RPM-forum@...
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:21 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Sunsnine kits website


I have created an unofficial Sunshine Models website. It contains my
All-time lists plus current price lists, PDFs of recent flyers, info on
upcoming meets, and links to other steam era resin kit manufacturers.

If you see any errors or updates that are needed or have fresher info,
especially on upcoming Sunshine appearances, please let me know.

Try it at www.sunshinekits.com <http://www.sunshinekits.com/> and let me
know what you think.

Jim Hayes

Portland Oregon


Re: Sunsnine kits website

Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

Adding pics of completed Sunshine models would be nice and is on my to-do
list. I'm just not there yet. When I'm ready to include pictures of
completed models, I'll post a request for them and probably get flooded with
pictures.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon



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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of joe
binish
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:17 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Sunsnine kits website



Jim,
Very nice "unofficial" site. How about a gallery of completed models?
Joe Binish
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Re: Sunsnine kits website

Dennis Williams
 

Jim, If you need some, let me know. Dennis
--- joe binish <joebinish@...> wrote:

Jim,
Very nice "unofficial" site. How about a
gallery of completed models?
Joe Binish
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim & Lisa Hayes"
<jimandlisa97225@...>
To: <STMFC@...>;
<RPM-forum@...>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:21 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Sunsnine kits website


I have created an unofficial Sunshine Models
website. It contains my
All-time lists plus current price lists, PDFs of
recent flyers, info on
upcoming meets, and links to other steam era resin
kit manufacturers.



If you see any errors or updates that are needed
or have fresher info,
especially on upcoming Sunshine appearances,
please let me know.



Try it at www.sunshinekits.com
<http://www.sunshinekits.com/> and let me
know what you think.



Jim Hayes

Portland Oregon



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Re: UP subsidiaries ICC Valuation

Carrock1998@...
 

Are there ICC Valuation Reports for all railroads? What is contained in
them? where would I find a copy of them?

What is Suitland?

Thanks

Robert "Rocky" Jackson


the UP subsidiaries (LA&SL, OWR&N, OSL etc.)? I
have the parent railroad report but not the subs. And yes, I know I can
always go to Suitland and copy them for myself--was hoping someone
already has copies. Thanks in advance for any help.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.290
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, _thompson@signaturepthompson_
(mailto:thompson@...)
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Re: Sunsnine kits website

joe binish <joebinish@...>
 

Jim,
Very nice "unofficial" site. How about a gallery of completed models?
Joe Binish

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim & Lisa Hayes" <jimandlisa97225@...>
To: <STMFC@...>; <RPM-forum@...>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:21 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Sunsnine kits website


I have created an unofficial Sunshine Models website. It contains my
All-time lists plus current price lists, PDFs of recent flyers, info on
upcoming meets, and links to other steam era resin kit manufacturers.
If you see any errors or updates that are needed or have fresher info,
especially on upcoming Sunshine appearances, please let me know.
Try it at www.sunshinekits.com <http://www.sunshinekits.com/> and let me
know what you think.
Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
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WESTERFIELD KITS FOR SALE

billkeene2004 <wakeene@...>
 

Hello group,

I have about a half dozen Westerfield kits (CP, MP, SP, & TP) that I wish to sell to make room
for... what else... more kits.

Please contact me off-list if interested.

Thanks,
-- Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


Kadee #58 couplers & metal wheelsets

Carrock1998@...
 

Jack and group,

Gid you order them direct or is their a discount hobby store where you
ordered yours from? I'm fairely new to the hobby so I have a related question.
Besides couplers, to make my freight cars look prototypical to the steam era
and improve operations I should replace any plastic wheelsets that I have with
metal ones. However, when I went to purchase a couple of NWSL wheels I
discovered that they come in various sizes. This was just totally bewildering to
me. How do I determine which is the right size? Do I use the same size for
my entire fleet? I've noticed that several of my cars have RP-25 wheelsets.
Are these compatible with NWSL or do I need to change them as well? Thanks
for your assistance.

Robert "Rocky" Jackson

Thanks Mark...I just ordered about 90 pair...

Yes, Jack. I converted and love the way they make the
cars appear, especially a hopper or tankcar.>
Sincerely, Mark Morgan






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Sunsnine kits website

Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

I have created an unofficial Sunshine Models website. It contains my
All-time lists plus current price lists, PDFs of recent flyers, info on
upcoming meets, and links to other steam era resin kit manufacturers.



If you see any errors or updates that are needed or have fresher info,
especially on upcoming Sunshine appearances, please let me know.



Try it at www.sunshinekits.com <http://www.sunshinekits.com/> and let me
know what you think.



Jim Hayes

Portland Oregon


Re: Justifying a USRA 40' gon in 1958

John Hile <john66h@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "George" <gsc3@...> wrote:

Is there anyway to justify a USRA 40' gon in 1958?
George,

At one point I did some research to see what unmodified (or least
modified) 40' USRA cars were still listed in the 1/53 ORER -- either
with composite sides or steel sides. Below are my notes and the 1/53
ORER number series for you to check circa 1958...

ACL 90000-90499 steel sides, 249 cars
ACL 99300-99443, 141 cars
GM&O 12200-12374 most w/solid floors, 170 cars
GM&O 44000-44249 steel sides, 249 cars
KCS 28300-28499 steel sides, solid floors or wine locks, d'naught end,
186 cars
L&N 73000-74999, 19 cars
MP 70501-73500 steel sides, 388 cars
PRR 751044-751329 G24 solid floors, steel sides, 136 cars
PRR 775755-775965 G24 solid floors, steel sides, 99 cars
PRR 882514-882563 G24 former GR&I, solid floors, steel sides, 28 cars
PRR 351473-351872 G24 former LIRR, solid floors, steel sides, 282 cars
SLSF 85000-85999 solid floors, 358 cars

Additions and/or corrections are welcome.

Hope this helps,

John Hile


UP subsidiaries ICC Valuation

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Does anyone on the list have, or know someone who has, the ICC Valuation Reports for the UP subsidiaries (LA&SL, OWR&N, OSL etc.)? I have the parent railroad report but not the subs. And yes, I know I can always go to Suitland and copy them for myself--was hoping someone already has copies. Thanks in advance for any help.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Sunshine FGEX, BREX, & WFEX war emergency reefers

pierreoliver2003 <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Thanks Bruce.
As it turns out that is exactly the answer I was hoping for. Under the
circumstances maybe I should go out and buy a lottery ticket today as
well.
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


On Mar 10, 2008, at 11:55 AM, pierreoliver2003 wrote:

I'm about to start some of the reefere kits mentioned in the subject
line. There's a discrepancy between the instructions and the PDS
regarding painting.
The instructions call for the roof to be painted silver, while the PDS
states that the roof should be painted freight car red like the ends.
So which is correct?
Pierre Oliver
Pierre,

Both are. It depends on era <G>. In the early 1950s, some of "our
companies" reefers got silver roofs. Up until that time the roof was
always red.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
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Re: Sunshine FGEX, BREX, & WFEX war emergency reefers

Bruce Smith
 

On Mar 10, 2008, at 11:55 AM, pierreoliver2003 wrote:

I'm about to start some of the reefere kits mentioned in the subject
line. There's a discrepancy between the instructions and the PDS
regarding painting.
The instructions call for the roof to be painted silver, while the PDS
states that the roof should be painted freight car red like the ends.
So which is correct?
Pierre Oliver
Pierre,

Both are. It depends on era <G>. In the early 1950s, some of "our companies" reefers got silver roofs. Up until that time the roof was always red.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
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Sunshine FGEX, BREX, & WFEX war emergency reefers

pierreoliver2003 <pierre.oliver@...>
 

I'm about to start some of the reefere kits mentioned in the subject
line. There's a discrepancy between the instructions and the PDS
regarding painting.
The instructions call for the roof to be painted silver, while the PDS
states that the roof should be painted freight car red like the ends.
So which is correct?
Pierre Oliver


FW: [nvmrc] check out National Steel Car's lively website

Aley, Jeff A
 

It appears that National Steel Car's PR dept has too much money.
Nevertheless, it's an interesting website; STMFC folks should try the
"Heritage" link.



http://www.steelcar.com/ <http://www.steelcar.com/>



Regards,



-Jeff





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John Rodgers
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 12:35 AM

At 5:36 PM -0800 3/7/08, MICHAEL SHYLANSKI wrote:
Whoa. I had not checked the National Steel Car website in some
time. Did I get a surprise. It's flashy and full of colorful video
clips and new world music.
http://www.steelcar.com/ <http://www.steelcar.com/>
Not exactly what we'd expect from a railroad car builder.
Check out this Canadian company's website; it's quite entertaining.
Speakers on...John


Re: Justifying a USRA 40' gon in 1958

Charlie Vlk
 

The CB&Q liked the USRA composite gondola design very much, but AFAIK all the originals were gone by the 1950s..... I haven't studied the OERs to see how long theirs lasted.
They made copies which did last through the BN merger.... one of the "signature" Q cars..... very similar to the USRA design but with the bottom ends of the steel structure exposed
below the side sheathing.
The Kalmbach Modeling the 1950's book states that the composite cars were phased out in favor of more modern steel cars. This is not completely true.... at least on the Q. The
CB&Q had early all-steel general service gondolas but found that they did not hold up in coal service and phased them out in favor of the USRA cars and clones. I know that the
MILW also used their composite gons into the game, some stripped down to "peek a boo" cars for pipe service and other such commodities. The Rock Island converted their WWII
emergency 50' gons for TOFC service.
A review of the OER would tell the complete story on the USRA 40' composite gons for the roads that had them....
Charlie Vlk


Re: A USRA gon in 1958

Bruce Smith
 

On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:50 AM, George wrote:

I should rephrase what I asked. Did any road run USRA gondolas in
1958 with rebuilt steel sides. Not looking for complete rebuilds.
Just a railroad that replaced the wood sides with steel.
Thanks,
George Courtney
George,

The PRR listed 6 G24 (USRA, 50 ton) class gons in 1958 and 1 in 1963 in the ORER. All of these cars would have had steel sides. I do not know if these particular cars had rebuilt ends (some did, some did not) Not a real big fleet ;^) but considering that these were built in 1920 and rebuilt to steel sides before WWII...

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
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A USRA gon in 1958

George Courtney
 

I should rephrase what I asked. Did any road run USRA gondolas in
1958 with rebuilt steel sides. Not looking for complete rebuilds.
Just a railroad that replaced the wood sides with steel.
Thanks,
George Courtney


UP S-40-10

destron@...
 

Hi,

I saw a photo of UP 49191 and noticed yet another application of a
vertically-ribbed end, in yet another variation: this one seems to be a
5+5 outward, with blank spaces at either side (no ribs under the ladder,
or on the corresponding space on the opposite side).

I'm curious, did all the cars in this series have this end?

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

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