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InterMountain ACF covered hopper

Jerome Albin <jeralbin@...>
 

List: InterMountain has announced the release (5-6 months) of
a ACF 2-bay, 1958 cubic foot, cut-out side covered hopper.
See their web site. Regards Jerry Albin


Re: Kit needed - ACY ex-Frisco cars

Bob Lucas
 

Frank, not decals as such for the AC&Y's ex-P&N cars, but AC&YHS has
artwork, much based from the original brass stencils. In STMFC photos
are images of the AC&Y 2000-series SS cars with the round herald. A
few cars received the lemon herald introduced in 1955. Agree, the Pere
Marquette, P&N and AC&Y versions would be winners in resin! Bob

***************

AC&Y's ex-P&N 40' autocars, the latter which also beg to be a resin kit
offering. Are there decals yet for the ACY version?

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC


Re: photographic print vs. scan

gn3397 <heninger@...>
 

Group,

According to the research assistant at the Kalmbach Library, the prints are actually
printed from a scan of the photo. I was also told that to burn the scans to a CD would
result in a charge of $5.00 for the first photo, and then I would only be billed a $15.00/hr
research fee dependent on how long it will take them to burn the CD. This seems to be
contrary to their website fee schedule. I sent my order by email late Friday afternoon, so I
expect an email back early next week informing me of the actual cost.

As to the 100,000 photos, I am guessing that a significant percentage are steam
locomotive "roster shots" by a gentleman named Harold Miller. There are a good number
of steam era freight car photos, however. If you have Kline and Culotta's book, you already
have about 350 of them. They will be happy to send you a PDF list of what they have (at no
cost if you are a member), and the turnaround is less than 24 hours. There were about
15-20 GN photos that weren' t in the book, and about 50 PRR boxcar photos that didn' t
make the cut.

Hope this information is helpful to some of you.

Sincerely,
Robert D. Heninger
Stanley, ND


poultry cars

John Riba
 

Hello Everyone,

The Live Poultry Transit Company named their cars.
The name was placed above the door. Chantacleer and
Kernan are two that I found.

John F. Riba


New file uploaded to STMFC

STMFC@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the STMFC
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You can access this file at the URL:
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Re: Glue for Resin

amato@...
 

Has anyone tried GatorGlue? Looks a lot easier to use than ACC, which doesn't
give you a lot of time to adjust a part.

http://www.gatorsmask.com/gatorglueorder.html

Frank Amato


---------------------- Original Message: ---------------------
From: Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Glue for Resin Caution
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 06:17:05 +0000

Bruce Smith wrote:
Jack,
As I recall, you live in an area where, when the humidity gets up to
15%, everyone says that they are drowning ;^) I live in an area
where, when the humidity drops to 50%, we all exclaim about how dry it
is! My CA goes bad in 6 months, like clockwork, regardless of the
brand or container.
Bruce, I'm happy to cede the point that your local humidity is
usually above ours (and you're very welcome to it), but I think you're
confusing the Bay Area with an arid region. Even when it's not
literally foggy, the air mass over the Bay is far from 15%. And I too
find that there seems to be a 6-month limit. For most products, I'd
suspect a devilish conspiracy to keep me buying more of the product . .
.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Bob's Photo Contact Information

Carl
 

Bob was (still is as I write this) at the Piedmont Division (SE Region)
NMRA Show in Marietta. Had a nice chat with him yesterday and came away
with several very nice photos.

His complete contact information (per his business card) is:

Bob's Photo
P.O. Box 209
Farmers KY 40319

Phone: (606) 780-9905
E-Mail: bobsphoto.train@...

Best Wishes--CARL

Carl G. Camann
Atlanta GA


Re: photographic print vs. scan

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

According to the NMRA website, they have over 100,000 images. To me
that's not too "limited.<

You are correct it's just that the few line items I was able to see and the fact I didn't see that number made the comment. It seems that some of the collections couldn't be linked or at least I couldn't see the listings!

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Off-line help...

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

I am working with the Colorado Railroad Museum to facilitate the donation of
a number of railroad artifacts (lanterns, builder's plates, headlights,
etc.) collected by the late YV brakeman Bob Lunoe, a longtime friend of mine
who passed away last spring. His daughter is willing to donate all of the
items and the Colorado Railroad Museum is interested in the donation but has
asked for an estimate of the cost of shipping the items from Wasola,
Missouri (south of Springfield) to the museum (and I'm in California). I am
therefore in the process of preparing this estimate based on weight and size
of each item. I will then be able to work with the local UPS store to
prepare a packaging and shipping estimate to provide to the museum.

While I have brakeman lanterns, switch lanterns, and switch locks in my own
collection to weigh and measure, I don't have any number plates (ones from
the front smokebox of a steam locomotive) or builder's plates, and certainly
no old tin steam-era headlights.

If anyone on this list has one of these three items in their own collection
and would be willing to weigh it and give me some general measurements, I'd
certainly appreciate it. Please contact me directly at
jack@...

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: Glue for Resin Caution

Thomas Baker
 

I live in Michigan, where summers can be very humid. Six months ago I purchased a bottle of tin CA and another of thicker CA. The thin mix was billed as "fast drying" but it has not dried up yet. The bottle of thicker slow drying CA has hardened to a rock. I kept both in a quart canning jar with packets of silicon. I heard that the silicon was supposed to pick up the moisture.

I have thought of purchasing the CA-Pox but have been frightened away at the fifty Dollar price.

Tom


Re: Glue for resin freight cars

WaltGCox@...
 

In a message dated 3/7/2008 1:18:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
earthman92853@... writes:

Welcome to the madness!<
Thanks to everyone who has responded on this topic. I have been following
this thread with a lot of interest as my next project is to get working on my
stash of resin kits from Sylvan, Westerfield and F&C. I'm still somewhat hung
up over the type of glue to use. I've narrowed my choices for a basic all
purpose glue down to regular thin ca (Plasti-zap), a flexible ca ( Flexi-zap)
and C-poxy. Would anyone who has used any or all of these adhesives have any
comments on their relative merits? T.I.A Walt Cox



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Re: photographic print vs. scan

Frank Pearsall
 

Good:

Bob's address is:

PO Box 209
Farmers, KY 40319-0209

No e-mail or website.

Yesterday, I attended the SER, Piedmont Division Train Show in Marietta, Georgia (just North of Atlanta). Bob was there and I was able to purchase some nice WW I equipment photos. He's doing well. This was the first time he had attended this particular show.

Frank Pearsall
Brevard, N.C.
Narrow Trak 08 (October 10, 11, 2008)

On Mar 8, 2008, at 7:53 PM, CYRIL DURRENBERGER wrote:

Does anyone know how to contact Bob's Photos besides attending one of the shows he attends?

Cyril Durrenberger


Re: CN Freight Car Color

pierreoliver2003 <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Bruce,
I don't know the Polly Scale line well enough to offer something from
them, but Badger's Model Flex line has a CN red #11. 16-163
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., "bdg1210" <Bruce_Griffin@...> wrote:

Group,

Can anyone offer a close match for CN no. 11 Freight Car Color in Polly
Scale paints? Thanks.

Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Summerfield, NC


CN Freight Car Color

bdg1210 <Bruce_Griffin@...>
 

Group,

Can anyone offer a close match for CN no. 11 Freight Car Color in Polly
Scale paints? Thanks.

Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Summerfield, NC


Re: Glue for Resin Caution

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Bruce Smith wrote:
Jack,
As I recall, you live in an area where, when the humidity gets up to 15%, everyone says that they are drowning ;^) I live in an area where, when the humidity drops to 50%, we all exclaim about how dry it is! My CA goes bad in 6 months, like clockwork, regardless of the brand or container.
Bruce, I'm happy to cede the point that your local humidity is usually above ours (and you're very welcome to it), but I think you're confusing the Bay Area with an arid region. Even when it's not literally foggy, the air mass over the Bay is far from 15%. And I too find that there seems to be a 6-month limit. For most products, I'd suspect a devilish conspiracy to keep me buying more of the product . . .

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Camel-Allen Door Hardware

np40txm1 <np40txm1@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Tom Madden" <tgmadden@...> wrote:

I put a couple scans on my web site of photos I took in March 1989 of
cars at Perris. Is this what you're looking for, Tim?

http://home.att.net/~pullmanproject/Camel_1.jpg
http://home.att.net/~pullmanproject/Camel_2.jpg

Tom Madden
Thanks Tom, great photos, but not the ones I'm looking for. The T&NO
cars used right-handed latches and slightly different doors ("Storm
Proof") and hangers than the SP and PE B-50-13's.

Tim


Re: photographic print vs. scan

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Robert D. Heninger wrote:
I recently scanned an old B&W print for someone, and while the resolution was high (600 dpi), I could not match the exposure latitude of the print.
Sounds like your scanner may not have enough dynamic range.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Kit needed - ACY ex-Frisco cars

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks a lot!

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Bob Lucas
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 11:28 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Kit needed - ACY ex-Frisco cars

Schuyler, here's a summary of the AC&Y ex-Frisco single-sheathed
cars:

AC&Y 3750-3874: 125 DD cars, 10'2" IH, 4642 cuf, Mt. Vernon
AC&Y 3875-3926: 52 SD cars, 10'8" IH, 4902 cuf, St. Louis Ref.
AC&Y 3927-3949: 22 SD cars, 10'2" IH, 4663 cuf, St. Louis Ref.

Additionally, there was one test car:

AC&Y 3616: 1 SD car, 10'8" IH, 4902 cuf, St. Louis Ref.

The test car was a proposed replacement by the leasor (A.A. Morrison)
for a 50' PS-1 derailment casualty with the same AC&Y roster number.
All the ex-Frisco cars had sealed auto ends, though don't show in
ORER's as such.

Bob Lucas
**************
Bob, do you (or does anyone else) know the a) complete span of
numbers in this series and b) which
among them were 10'-2" vs 10'-8" IH?

SGL

Schuyler, Though both ex-Frisco cars were reconditioned by St. Louis
Refrigerator about the same time, AC&Y 3930 was in the last leased
series of 22 cars and was rebuilt as a 10'2 IH car vs. 10'8 for AC&Y
3918, thus the visual difference in the upper steel plate. Why the
IH height was changed is unknown except the tire companies no doubt
had a say? Additionally, AC&Y sported a facinating roster of single-
sheathed 40' Mathers and ex-P&N 40' autocars, the latter which also
beg to be a resin kit offering. Bob

Bob, 3930 and 3918 don't quite match. The upper steel plate on
3918
is taller than the corresponding plate on 3930. Any thoughts on
that?

An appealing car, somehow, and if it did start with Frisco and
move
to ACY, that is good for the sales of the resin kit maker that
brings
it out. Right, Ted? Or is that you, Al?

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Lucas

Dave, AC&Y 3918 originated as a circa 30's SLSF Frisco 50'6"
DD
car.
To meet increased tire and rim demand in the 50's, AC&Y leased
roughly 200 ex-Frisco wood single-sheathed autocars, ideal for
(hot)
tire shipments. AC&Y 3875-3926 were reconditioned by St. Louis
Refrigerator in 1958 wherein the roof was raised to 10'8" IH
(note
upper steel panel). A single 9' door was installed replacing
the
SLSF double doors.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3918jwa.jpg.
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3918jwa.jpg.>
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3918jwa.jpg.
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3918jwa.jpg.> >
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3918jwa.jpg.
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3918jwa.jpg.>
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3918jwa.jpg.
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3918jwa.jpg.> > >

What you don't see with AC&Y 3918 and others (four series) is
that
all had end auto doors, albeit sealed. Also, 125 cars in
series
AC&Y
3750-3874 were rebuilt with double steel doors with a 10'2"
IH.
See
the photo of one of the DD cars wrecked on the CNW.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=771451
<http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=771451>
<http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=771451
<http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=771451> >
<http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=771451
<http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=771451>
<http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=771451
<http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=771451> > >

The final series, AC&Y 3927-3949, were rebuilt 10'2" IH with a
single
9' door. Note the panels reflect the sealing of the left DD
door.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3930ajw.jpg
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3930ajw.jpg>
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3930ajw.jpg
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3930ajw.jpg> >
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3930ajw.jpg
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3930ajw.jpg>
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3930ajw.jpg
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3930ajw.jpg> > >

As others on the list have mentioned, there is currently no
resin
kit
for the AC&Y cars. However, the old Roundhouse/MDC kits 2100
and
2130, no longer in production, can be easily modified as
pretty
reasonable stand-ins. Bob Lucas





Re: Kit needed - ACY ex-Frisco cars

destron@...
 

ex-P&N 40' autocars, the latter which also
beg to be a resin kit offering. Bob
Well, the PM had a very, very similar series of cars - 88000 series off
the top of my head - that is listed on the Speedwitch site as an upcoming
kit. I can't wait for that, myself - definitely will be grabbing at least
two of those, for a P&N 24000-series car, and an ACY version. Are there
decals yet for the ACY version?

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

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Re: Kit needed - ACY ex-Frisco cars

Bob Lucas
 

Schuyler, here's a summary of the AC&Y ex-Frisco single-sheathed
cars:

AC&Y 3750-3874: 125 DD cars, 10'2" IH, 4642 cuf, Mt. Vernon
AC&Y 3875-3926: 52 SD cars, 10'8" IH, 4902 cuf, St. Louis Ref.
AC&Y 3927-3949: 22 SD cars, 10'2" IH, 4663 cuf, St. Louis Ref.

Additionly, there was one test car:

AC&Y 3616: 1 SD car, 10'8" IH, 4902 cuf, St. Louis Ref.

The test car was a proposed replacement by the leasor (A.A. Morrison)
for a 50' PS-1 derailment casualty with the same AC&Y roster number.
All the ex-Frisco cars had sealed auto ends, though don't show in
ORER's as such.

Bob Lucas
**************
Bob, do you (or does anyone else) know the a) complete span of
numbers in this series and b) which
among them were 10'-2" vs 10'-8" IH?

SGL

Schuyler, Though both ex-Frisco cars were reconditioned by St. Louis
Refrigerator about the same time, AC&Y 3930 was in the last leased
series of 22 cars and was rebuilt as a 10'2 IH car vs. 10'8 for AC&Y
3918, thus the visual difference in the upper steel plate. Why the
IH height was changed is unknown except the tire companies no doubt
had a say? Additionally, AC&Y sported a facinating roster of single-
sheathed 40' Mathers and ex-P&N 40' autocars, the latter which also
beg to be a resin kit offering. Bob

Bob, 3930 and 3918 don't quite match. The upper steel plate on
3918
is taller than the corresponding plate on 3930. Any thoughts on
that?

An appealing car, somehow, and if it did start with Frisco and
move
to ACY, that is good for the sales of the resin kit maker that
brings
it out. Right, Ted? Or is that you, Al?

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Lucas

Dave, AC&Y 3918 originated as a circa 30's SLSF Frisco 50'6"
DD
car.
To meet increased tire and rim demand in the 50's, AC&Y leased
roughly 200 ex-Frisco wood single-sheathed autocars, ideal for
(hot)
tire shipments. AC&Y 3875-3926 were reconditioned by St. Louis
Refrigerator in 1958 wherein the roof was raised to 10'8" IH
(note
upper steel panel). A single 9' door was installed replacing
the
SLSF double doors.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3918jwa.jpg.
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3918jwa.jpg.>
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3918jwa.jpg.
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3918jwa.jpg.> >

What you don't see with AC&Y 3918 and others (four series) is
that
all had end auto doors, albeit sealed. Also, 125 cars in
series
AC&Y
3750-3874 were rebuilt with double steel doors with a 10'2"
IH.
See
the photo of one of the DD cars wrecked on the CNW.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=771451
<http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=771451>
<http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=771451
<http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=771451> >

The final series, AC&Y 3927-3949, were rebuilt 10'2" IH with a
single
9' door. Note the panels reflect the sealing of the left DD
door.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3930ajw.jpg
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3930ajw.jpg>
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3930ajw.jpg
<http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acy/acy3930ajw.jpg> >

As others on the list have mentioned, there is currently no
resin
kit
for the AC&Y cars. However, the old Roundhouse/MDC kits 2100
and
2130, no longer in production, can be easily modified as
pretty
reasonable stand-ins. Bob Lucas