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Re: Library Collections: Don't Forget The Stanford

James Eckman
 

The library in general can be used 5 days a year by California residents. I don't know how this works with this collection however.

Jim


Listings posted

Rob Sarberenyi <espeef5@...>
 

I have some Ebay listings ending tomorrow and also over the next few days
http://stores.ebay.com/Espee-F-5

For the next several weeks I will be listing lots more items, please remember to check back.

Meanwhile, I've begun digging into my long-time stash of fodder for model railroad projects. After nearly eight months looking for another job, with too few interviews and being a runner-up, time has come to thin out my collection of goodies, give up on some things I'd hoped to hang onto. Guess if things don't change within the next couple months, I may actually find myself out of the hobby.

Thanks for looking!


Rob Sarberenyi
espeef5@...


Re: new Sunshine car?

jerryglow2
 

Thanks Dennis, I undestand he's also planning on a "sawtooth" SS car as
used by MP and possibly others. That is the one I am REALLY waiting for.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., "Dennis Storzek" <destorzek@...> wrote:

Jerry,

It's a different car(s).
(goes on to explain differences etc)

Dennis


Library Collections: Don't Forget The Stanford

Shawn Beckert
 

List,

I do most of my research at the California State Railroad
Museum Library, since their drawing catalog is mostly on-line,
and any questions I have are almost always answered with
a phone call to the (always) helpful staff.

When it comes to freight cars, however, I've been told that the
Stanford University Library may be of even more use when it
comes to drawings of freight equipment, at least of the Southern
Pacific Railroad:

http://www.oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/tf2199n586

I don't know how accessible their collection is ( I do know you
need to schedule visits in advance), but from their on-line lists
of material I think it would be worth a trip up there to find out.

Shawn Beckert


Re: California state RR museum

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Garth G. Groff wrote:
The main door has always been locked until 1 p.m. when I've been there. I assume that you need to make special arrangements to get in earlier.
Yes, the library's own entrance is locked until 1 PM. The purpose is to exclude casual members of the public, not researchers; you will often find people doing research in the library in the morning. Dealing with the public requires answering many (often naive) questions, and essentially full-time presence at the desk. Researchers in the library who are working on their own are an entirely different matter, as by definition they don't require any staff attention. In the AM, library staff are doing their own curatorial and other work.
You can come up the staff stairway at the west end of the building at 9:00.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: California state RR museum

Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Tony,

The main door has always been locked until 1 p.m. when I've been there. I assume that you need to make special arrangements to get in earlier.

Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff

Anthony Thompson wrote:


The library is only open from 1-5 p.m. Tuesday through Saturday.
They will allow you to come into the library from 9 AM onward, but they will only retrieve requested materials from 1-5. If they have already retrieved your requests before you arrive, you can start working with them at 9 AM--they just won't do NEW requests until 1 PM.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: California state RR museum

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Garth G. Groff wrote:
With the exception of the Pullman photo collection, you only get a list of boxes and folders, with fairly general notes about content.
True, but the photos are by subject (e.g. SP box cars, SP Pacific locomotives, etc.) and if you list subjects, they will pull the folders in advance. The catalog of drawings is on line.

The library is only open from 1-5 p.m. Tuesday through Saturday.
They will allow you to come into the library from 9 AM onward, but they will only retrieve requested materials from 1-5. If they have already retrieved your requests before you arrive, you can start working with them at 9 AM--they just won't do NEW requests until 1 PM.
If you have any interests at all in drawings, you can look at the on-line catalog of all the museum's drawings, and request them to pull any you'd like to examine. The search function on the on-line catalog is a little quirky but will yield what you want with a little experimentation.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Decal guy

rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., David Allen <dallen@...> wrote:
Thanks Dave, I've met Don before, I'm inquiring for a friend. He's
been waiting a year for Micro Scale to rerun a decal set. They did.
He bought $120 worth only to find out they screwed up the artwork.
Seems the new owers have issues. So, he wants to pursue having them
custom done.
Clark Propst

Clark Probst cepropst@... wrote:
Anybody know how to get a hold of a custom decal guy from
Wisconsin I
believe his name is something like Manlick, but I'm sure I
massacred
it.

Its Don Manlick. Does good work. His address is:

Donald Manlick
2127 S 11-th
Manitowoc, WI, 54220
(920) 684-8688

Give him a call - he is a good guy.

Dave Allen


Re: Texas and Pacific Mail Storage boxcars

Frank Fertitta <frank1357@...>
 

Jerry -

I just completed four of those cars using data from the Oddballs Decal sheet and data from an article by Martin Loftin in May 1994 Model Railroader. I took Loftin's measurements and drew a diagram on a file card.

Great choice for a project. You've really got to want that car to do all the measuring, masking, waiting for the paint to dry, and tedious decaling.

Frank

asychis@... wrote:
Hi Guys,

The Amarillo Railroad Museum is interested in producing the T&P 1700-1724
series mail storage boxcars. Doe snayone out there have or know of a painting
diagram? I have most of the data I need from Ed Hawkins excellent article in
the Spring 2000 MPHS Eagle. Thanks!

Jerry Michels

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


Re: new Sunshine car?

Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "jerryglow2" <jerryglow@...> wrote:

June MR has a spot in the News & Products section of a Soo Line single-
sheathed boxcar from Sunshine. Is this different than the old Storzak
kit now reissued by Speedwich or a different car?

Jerry Glow
Jerry,

It's a different car(s).

The Speedwitch Models car is my old car, now combined into a one piece
body and an improved underframe. It models the cars with 5' doors,
wood sheathed ends, and fishbelly center sills built by ACF, H&B, and
Pullman in 1920, '21, and '23. See:

<http://www.speedwitch.com/Models/k108.htm>

The Sunshine cars are a new effort, with patterns by Frank Houdina.
They are flat kits and model the cars built in the later twenties by
Pullman and Siems-Stembel that had 6' doors, radial roofs, steel ends,
and straight center sills. Prior to these kits, these cars were not
easy to model accurately.

Kit #78.1 models the cars built by Pullman in 1926 with wood doors and
corrugated ends. It comes with a decal set having the proper WC 13xxxx
series numbers

Kit #78.3 models the cars built in 1928 and '29 with top supported
Youngstown doors and dreadnaught ends and comes with decals having the
proper Soo 40200 – 41798 numbers.

I don't exactly know what Martin intended with Kit #78.2. Mine came
with the steel doors and WC decal sheet. I think he intends it to be
the cars built in 1930 and assigned to the WC, but those cars had
BOTTOM supported Youngstown doors, which the kit does not. The decals
have enough numbers to to do these cars, but only have the 1926 built
dates. Maybe Frank can chime in here if he's reading this list.

Dennis


Re: Texas and Pacific Mail Storage boxcars

Tim O'Connor
 

Doing them in original brown or eagle colors?

The Amarillo Railroad Museum is interested in producing the T&P 1700-1724
series mail storage boxcars. Doe snayone out there have or know of a painting
diagram? I have most of the data I need from Ed Hawkins excellent article in
the Spring 2000 MPHS Eagle. Thanks!

Jerry Michels


ADMIN: "The engines that pulled them"

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

With regard to the message from Steve Haas:

"However, one reason the list exists is to uncover the truth about Steam Era Freight Cars.
Hopefully that search for the truth extends to the engines that may have
pulled them."

My response: "Well...actually...no it does not. Sorry."

To clarify, discussions about the engines that pulled steam era frt cars are permitted as long as the primary focus is about frt cars or frt trains AND IF the time period is within the group's time period...1900-1960. Post 1960 diesels are definitely not in scope.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner


Doodlebug Yahoo! Group??

Chris Thies
 

Does anyone know of an active Yahoo! Group that focuses on doodlebugs?
I am putting plans together for modeling a MoPac doodlebug and had some
general questions about carbody and underframe details.

Thanks,
Chris Thies


Re: Decal guy

Ray Meyer
 

Don does not have email. He can be contacted by phone or mail.
Don Manlick
2127 South 11th Street
Manitowoc, WI 54220-6513
920-684-8688

On 5/3/07, rockroll50401 <cepropst@...> wrote:

Thanks would really appreicate it Ray.


.


--
Atty Raymond G. Meyer
110 E. Main St
Port Washington, WI 53074
262-284-5566
rgmeyer2@...


new Sunshine car?

jerryglow2
 

June MR has a spot in the News & Products section of a Soo Line single-
sheathed boxcar from Sunshine. Is this different than the old Storzak
kit now reissued by Speedwich or a different car?

Jerry Glow


An Explanation

Russ Strodtz <sheridan@...>
 

www.theruralroute.com had been set up as a medium to
create e-mail addresses. I had only given it a minimal
bandwidth.

That bandwidth was exceeded last night. The situation
has been corrected and if anyone had problems downloading
they should be gone now.

Have plenty of space and plenty of bandwidth but there
was no reason at the time I set this up to allocate it.

Commercial announcement: If anyone does wish to have their
own site, for whatever reason, contact me off-list. Unlike
some other hosts I will not put any advertising on your
site. What will be there is only what you want.

Russ


Re: California state RR museum

Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Tim:

Try this: http://66.129.110.33/ . With the exception of the Pullman photo collection, you only get a list of boxes and folders, with fairly general notes about content. This might not be helpful. As you might imagine, they have a very large SP collection, and you could eat up a lot of precious time wallowing around. My best suggestion is to contact the museum by e-mail and discuss your interests. Give them specific dates you plan to visit, and they will pull the files or boxes you want. Set up your plans well in advance, then confirm your visit again about a week before you arrive if you are asking for a lot of stuff. The library is only open from 1-5 p.m. Tuesday through Saturday. As usual, you are only allowed a pencil and paper, though laptops are allowed. I don't know if you can bring your own scanner. You will find the staff very helpful.

Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff

timboconnor@... wrote:

Garth, do they have a catalog, or do you have to (can you?) browse
the CSRM photo collection? I want to visit someday but I'd like to know
how much time I'll have to allocate to find SP freight car and locomotive
info.

Tim O'Connor


Single sheathed ventilator cars?

laramielarry <ostresh@...>
 

Lee Singletary, on the L&N list, sent me the following information:

"In my copy of a L&N Freight Car Record Book from 1955 7500-7999 were
originally built as single sheathed cars with steel ends and
underframe. 100 of the cars were rebuilt in 1941 into steel sided
double door auto box cars with end doors and renumbered 46900-46999.
84 cars were rebuilt in 1940 and 1941 into steel sided single door
cars and renumbered 94200-94283. 5 cars were modified in 1953 and
1954 to become ventilated box cars and renumbered 7500-7504. The
remainder of the cars were still wood single sheathed."

In a subsequent post, Lee provided an L&N equipment diagram that
clearly shows 7500-7504 as single sheathed ventilator cars.

I think that single sheathed ventilator cars are rare. Does anyone
know of any others?

Thanks,
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming


Texas and Pacific Mail Storage boxcars

asychis@...
 

Hi Guys,

The Amarillo Railroad Museum is interested in producing the T&P 1700-1724
series mail storage boxcars. Doe snayone out there have or know of a painting
diagram? I have most of the data I need from Ed Hawkins excellent article in
the Spring 2000 MPHS Eagle. Thanks!

Jerry Michels



************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


Re: Steam-era Freight cars and locomotives for sale

Russ Strodtz <sheridan@...>
 

Brad,

Not that easy to buy anything without any communication
from your end. I'll pass, was in the mood but mood has
changed from "Buy" to "Hold".

Russ

----- Original Message -----
From: bbbourb
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, 01 May, 2007 11:49
Subject: [STMFC] Steam-era Freight cars and locomotives for sale


Have the following HO Freight Car kits for sale:

Proto 2000 8000 gal. tank cars $9 ea. (road names to follow)
Proto 2000 Mather Stock cars $9 ea. undecorated
Accurail 70-ton open hopper $6 ea. Various roads, w/Accumate
coupler
Westerfield 50' Auto Box $15, original box
Westerfield Fowler Box $15, original box
Westerfield Fowler Box $12, Not original box

Also, a steam engine or two:
Roundhouse 2-8-0: $50, undecorated, looks complete except for
extra
set of cylinders

Roundhouse 4-6-0: $60, Painted and lettered for North Arkansas
Line,
modifications not quite complete on tender, photos on request

Athearn Genesis USRA 2-8-2: $80, halfway to a Midland Valley
90-class
prototype, photos on request

Shipping on all items is $5 for the first, $2 each additional.

Will have more items very soon, including decals and other cars.
Again, more details will be offered on the items if you need it.
Hoping to avoid the headache of eBay. Thanks for looking!

Brad Bourbina

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