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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido GARX Meat Reefers

Brian Carlson
 

Bruce and list: you missed one. 

3rd run is due in July listed as “in transit” on the Rapido delivery schedule. 

Sku 121009-121024 run 1
Sku 121025-121048 run 2
SKU 121050-121063 run 3 in transit. 

I have way too many of these. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:35 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]

Brian,
 
That's the 2nd round, due out momentarily. Michael was pointing out a THIRD run! YIKES!
 
Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
 
 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 4:25 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido GARX Meat Reefers
 
CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.
These are due soon so hope you pre-ordered. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

So those sons-of-a-gun up north are planning to take more of my hard-earned cash:  https://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-37-general-american-garx-reefer

Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido GARX Meat Reefers

Bruce Smith
 
Edited

Brian,
 
That's the 2nd round, due out momentarily. Michael was pointing out a THIRD run! YIKES!
 
Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
 
 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Carlson via groups.io <prrk41361@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 4:25 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido GARX Meat Reefers
 
CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.
These are due soon so hope you pre-ordered. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

So those sons-of-a-gun up north are planning to take more of my hard-earned cash:  https://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-37-general-american-garx-reefer

Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Rapido GARX Meat Reefers

Brian Carlson
 

These are due soon so hope you pre-ordered. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

So those sons-of-a-gun up north are planning to take more of my hard-earned cash:  https://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-37-general-american-garx-reefer

Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Rapido GARX Meat Reefers

 

Not mine. Introducing a U25B/U28Bph1, but NOT in Rock Island, even though they owned 50+ of them. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:09 PM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

So those sons-of-a-gun up north are planning to take more of my hard-earned cash:  https://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-37-general-american-garx-reefer

Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Rapido GARX Meat Reefers

Michael Gross
 

So those sons-of-a-gun up north are planning to take more of my hard-earned cash:  https://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-37-general-american-garx-reefer

Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

The book has a photo of an open side HJH tub car.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "BRIAN PAUL EHNI via groups.io" <bpehni@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 2:15 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

Correction. The Heinz cars were tubs, but this photo shows they may have been enclosed.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io" <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 2:10 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

My original follow-on question to the photo that started this thread was intended to suggest some other users of the circular tub variety of pickle cars that would have been seen in the northeast, PA, NY, and neighboring states..  I was, perhaps, a little to elliptical in my rather vague question.  Any suggestions now that I’m being more specific?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 2:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

Eric: do you have David J. Leider’s “Pickle and Vinegar Makers of the Midwest”? I don’t think it applies directly to your situation, but it has lots of info on plant layouts, photos of plants, cars, etc.

 

I’ll lend you my copy if you like.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 11:57 AM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

David,

 

I'll have three pickle and food production plants to serve on my future layout with HJ Heinz, Lutz & Schramm, and Cruikshank Brothers. Have you stumbled across details for cars that transported pickles from the field plants to Lutz & Schramm and Cruikshank Brothers in Pittsburgh, Penna.?

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

 

On 06/23/2021 9:08 PM David Leider <sooauthor@...> wrote:

 

 

Sguire-Dingee was a Chicago company, but had salting stations all over the midwest as w3ell as subsidaries in other parts of the US. Pickle cars of this type were used all over to pick up salted pickles for further processing
David Leider

 

 


Re: Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

The book I mentioned has a drawing for an open side tub car for L.. Forman & Sons, Pittsford, NY

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io" <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 2:10 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

My original follow-on question to the photo that started this thread was intended to suggest some other users of the circular tub variety of pickle cars that would have been seen in the northeast, PA, NY, and neighboring states..  I was, perhaps, a little to elliptical in my rather vague question.  Any suggestions now that I’m being more specific?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 2:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

Eric: do you have David J. Leider’s “Pickle and Vinegar Makers of the Midwest”? I don’t think it applies directly to your situation, but it has lots of info on plant layouts, photos of plants, cars, etc.

 

I’ll lend you my copy if you like.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 11:57 AM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

David,

 

I'll have three pickle and food production plants to serve on my future layout with HJ Heinz, Lutz & Schramm, and Cruikshank Brothers. Have you stumbled across details for cars that transported pickles from the field plants to Lutz & Schramm and Cruikshank Brothers in Pittsburgh, Penna.?

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

 

On 06/23/2021 9:08 PM David Leider <sooauthor@...> wrote:

 

 

Sguire-Dingee was a Chicago company, but had salting stations all over the midwest as w3ell as subsidaries in other parts of the US. Pickle cars of this type were used all over to pick up salted pickles for further processing
David Leider

 

 


Re: Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

Correction. The Heinz cars were tubs, but this photo shows they may have been enclosed.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io" <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 2:10 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

My original follow-on question to the photo that started this thread was intended to suggest some other users of the circular tub variety of pickle cars that would have been seen in the northeast, PA, NY, and neighboring states..  I was, perhaps, a little to elliptical in my rather vague question.  Any suggestions now that I’m being more specific?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 2:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

Eric: do you have David J. Leider’s “Pickle and Vinegar Makers of the Midwest”? I don’t think it applies directly to your situation, but it has lots of info on plant layouts, photos of plants, cars, etc.

 

I’ll lend you my copy if you like.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 11:57 AM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

David,

 

I'll have three pickle and food production plants to serve on my future layout with HJ Heinz, Lutz & Schramm, and Cruikshank Brothers. Have you stumbled across details for cars that transported pickles from the field plants to Lutz & Schramm and Cruikshank Brothers in Pittsburgh, Penna.?

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

 

On 06/23/2021 9:08 PM David Leider <sooauthor@...> wrote:

 

 

Sguire-Dingee was a Chicago company, but had salting stations all over the midwest as w3ell as subsidaries in other parts of the US. Pickle cars of this type were used all over to pick up salted pickles for further processing
David Leider

 

 


Re: Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

Heinz had such cars, and they were in Pittsburgh.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io" <schuyler.larrabee@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 2:10 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

My original follow-on question to the photo that started this thread was intended to suggest some other users of the circular tub variety of pickle cars that would have been seen in the northeast, PA, NY, and neighboring states..  I was, perhaps, a little to elliptical in my rather vague question.  Any suggestions now that I’m being more specific?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 2:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

Eric: do you have David J. Leider’s “Pickle and Vinegar Makers of the Midwest”? I don’t think it applies directly to your situation, but it has lots of info on plant layouts, photos of plants, cars, etc.

 

I’ll lend you my copy if you like.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 11:57 AM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

David,

 

I'll have three pickle and food production plants to serve on my future layout with HJ Heinz, Lutz & Schramm, and Cruikshank Brothers. Have you stumbled across details for cars that transported pickles from the field plants to Lutz & Schramm and Cruikshank Brothers in Pittsburgh, Penna.?

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

 

On 06/23/2021 9:08 PM David Leider <sooauthor@...> wrote:

 

 

Sguire-Dingee was a Chicago company, but had salting stations all over the midwest as w3ell as subsidaries in other parts of the US. Pickle cars of this type were used all over to pick up salted pickles for further processing
David Leider

 

 


Re: Photo: Pickle Car - further question

Schuyler Larrabee
 

My original follow-on question to the photo that started this thread was intended to suggest some other users of the circular tub variety of pickle cars that would have been seen in the northeast, PA, NY, and neighboring states..  I was, perhaps, a little to elliptical in my rather vague question.  Any suggestions now that I’m being more specific?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 2:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

Eric: do you have David J. Leider’s “Pickle and Vinegar Makers of the Midwest”? I don’t think it applies directly to your situation, but it has lots of info on plant layouts, photos of plants, cars, etc.

 

I’ll lend you my copy if you like.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 11:57 AM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

David,

 

I'll have three pickle and food production plants to serve on my future layout with HJ Heinz, Lutz & Schramm, and Cruikshank Brothers. Have you stumbled across details for cars that transported pickles from the field plants to Lutz & Schramm and Cruikshank Brothers in Pittsburgh, Penna.?

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

 

On 06/23/2021 9:08 PM David Leider <sooauthor@...> wrote:

 

 

Sguire-Dingee was a Chicago company, but had salting stations all over the midwest as w3ell as subsidaries in other parts of the US. Pickle cars of this type were used all over to pick up salted pickles for further processing
David Leider

 

 


Re: Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

Eric: do you have David J. Leider’s “Pickle and Vinegar Makers of the Midwest”? I don’t think it applies directly to your situation, but it has lots of info on plant layouts, photos of plants, cars, etc.

 

I’ll lend you my copy if you like.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 11:57 AM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

David,

 

I'll have three pickle and food production plants to serve on my future layout with HJ Heinz, Lutz & Schramm, and Cruikshank Brothers. Have you stumbled across details for cars that transported pickles from the field plants to Lutz & Schramm and Cruikshank Brothers in Pittsburgh, Penna.?

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

 

On 06/23/2021 9:08 PM David Leider <sooauthor@...> wrote:

 

 

Sguire-Dingee was a Chicago company, but had salting stations all over the midwest as w3ell as subsidaries in other parts of the US. Pickle cars of this type were used all over to pick up salted pickles for further processing
David Leider

 

 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Claus;

 

I wish I could say that was so, but LOTS of coke, sometimes hot, was loaded into composite cars:  box cars, gons, hoppers.  Lots of torchings!

 

There are some great photos and stories of torched cars.

 

My favorite pic is in the Rock Island Color Guide.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 12:53 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

 

Hi Elden and List Members,

 

Elden wrote: "There is a lot of correspondence out there on the travails of this service, including...coke-torched box cars"

 

On this list we were recently discussing coke manufacturing at Monongah No 8 Mine, Fairmont Coal Company, WV in 1907, link below...

 

 

I will point out that the coke - which is much more likely to burst into flames due to inadequate quenching - is being loaded into hoppers of all-steel construction. The coal - a load that is unlikely to catch fire on its own - is in the composite (wood and steel) gons. I can't help thinking they *intentionally* avoided loading the coke into the wood-and-steel gons - makes sense!

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

 

 

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:37 AM

Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

 

Folks;

 

PRR had some intentionally doorless cars they put in dedicated coke service, but accidentally doorless cars were not unheard of, with cribbing taking the place of a need for a door.

 

Coal and coke were both loaded into box cars early on, when hoppers/gons were unavailable, or in the event weather protection was desired.  I’ve seen correspondence on both, by a variety of parties.

 

You all have seen this photo.  How cool is that?

 

For coal loads, the boards were close together.

 

There is a lot of correspondence out there on the travails of this service, including disappearing doors, spilled loads, and coke-torched box cars.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:51 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

 

Hi Ken and List Members,

 

Good catch, Ken, I had not noticed that. If loading coal into a boxcar, perhaps a door is optional and the opening will be covered over agian with cribbing after loading but before departure? Or perhaps only use the door on the other side?

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 10:39 PM

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

 

Is the door missing on this car?

Is there some type of cribbing inside the doorway?

Ken Montero






> On 06/23/2021 12:42 PM robert netzlof <rtnetzlof@...> wrote:
>

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)" <claus@...>
>
> > B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907
>
> > https://wvhistoryonview.org/catalog/039674

> 72948 Look at the 4 digits visible on the end.
>
> --
> Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob
>
>
>




Re: Photo: Pickle Car - further question

Eric Hansmann
 

David,

I'll have three pickle and food production plants to serve on my future layout with HJ Heinz, Lutz & Schramm, and Cruikshank Brothers. Have you stumbled across details for cars that transported pickles from the field plants to Lutz & Schramm and Cruikshank Brothers in Pittsburgh, Penna.?



Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On 06/23/2021 9:08 PM David Leider <sooauthor@...> wrote:


Sguire-Dingee was a Chicago company, but had salting stations all over the midwest as w3ell as subsidaries in other parts of the US. Pickle cars of this type were used all over to pick up salted pickles for further processing
David Leider



Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Hi Elden and List Members,
 
Elden wrote: "There is a lot of correspondence out there on the travails of this service, including...coke-torched box cars"
 
On this list we were recently discussing coke manufacturing at Monongah No 8 Mine, Fairmont Coal Company, WV in 1907, link below...
 
 
I will point out that the coke - which is much more likely to burst into flames due to inadequate quenching - is being loaded into hoppers of all-steel construction. The coal - a load that is unlikely to catch fire on its own - is in the composite (wood and steel) gons. I can't help thinking they *intentionally* avoided loading the coke into the wood-and-steel gons - makes sense!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

Folks;

 

PRR had some intentionally doorless cars they put in dedicated coke service, but accidentally doorless cars were not unheard of, with cribbing taking the place of a need for a door.

 

Coal and coke were both loaded into box cars early on, when hoppers/gons were unavailable, or in the event weather protection was desired.  I’ve seen correspondence on both, by a variety of parties.

 

You all have seen this photo.  How cool is that?

 

For coal loads, the boards were close together.

 

There is a lot of correspondence out there on the travails of this service, including disappearing doors, spilled loads, and coke-torched box cars.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:51 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

 

Hi Ken and List Members,

 

Good catch, Ken, I had not noticed that. If loading coal into a boxcar, perhaps a door is optional and the opening will be covered over agian with cribbing after loading but before departure? Or perhaps only use the door on the other side?

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 10:39 PM

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

 

Is the door missing on this car?

Is there some type of cribbing inside the doorway?

Ken Montero






> On 06/23/2021 12:42 PM robert netzlof <rtnetzlof@...> wrote:
>

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)" <claus@...>
>
> > B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907
>
> > https://wvhistoryonview.org/catalog/039674

> 72948 Look at the 4 digits visible on the end.
>
> --
> Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob
>
>
>





Re: Hopper and gons, Monongah No 8 Mine, Fairmont Coal Company, WV 1907

Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
 

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 08:55 AM, CJ Riley wrote:
I must dispute the comment about these not being beehive ovens. They are identical to the freestanding beehive ovens, just buried for heat retention and operational reasons. They were still called beehives.
I didn't realize that "beehive oven" was a term of the art, thinking it was more a historian / modeler's term. I stand corrected.

Dennis Storzek


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Folks;

 

PRR had some intentionally doorless cars they put in dedicated coke service, but accidentally doorless cars were not unheard of, with cribbing taking the place of a need for a door.

 

Coal and coke were both loaded into box cars early on, when hoppers/gons were unavailable, or in the event weather protection was desired.  I’ve seen correspondence on both, by a variety of parties.

 

You all have seen this photo.  How cool is that?

 

For coal loads, the boards were close together.

 

There is a lot of correspondence out there on the travails of this service, including disappearing doors, spilled loads, and coke-torched box cars.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:51 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

 

Hi Ken and List Members,

 

Good catch, Ken, I had not noticed that. If loading coal into a boxcar, perhaps a door is optional and the opening will be covered over agian with cribbing after loading but before departure? Or perhaps only use the door on the other side?

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 10:39 PM

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

 

Is the door missing on this car?

Is there some type of cribbing inside the doorway?

Ken Montero






> On 06/23/2021 12:42 PM robert netzlof <rtnetzlof@...> wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)" <claus@...>
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> > B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907
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> > https://wvhistoryonview.org/catalog/039674

> 72948 Look at the 4 digits visible on the end.
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> Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob
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Re: B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Hi Ken and List Members,
 
Good catch, Ken, I had not noticed that. If loading coal into a boxcar, perhaps a door is optional and the opening will be covered over agian with cribbing after loading but before departure? Or perhaps only use the door on the other side?
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

Is the door missing on this car?

Is there some type of cribbing inside the doorway?

Ken Montero






> On 06/23/2021 12:42 PM robert netzlof <rtnetzlof@...> wrote:
>

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)" <claus@...>
>
> > B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907
>
> > https://wvhistoryonview.org/catalog/039674

> 72948 Look at the 4 digits visible on the end.
>
> --
> Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob
>
>
>






Re: Photo: Pickle Car - further question

 

Sguire-Dingee was a Chicago company, but had salting stations all over the midwest as w3ell as subsidaries in other parts of the US. Pickle cars of this type were used all over to pick up salted pickles for further processing
David Leider


Re: B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907

Kenneth Montero
 

Is the door missing on this car?

Is there some type of cribbing inside the doorway?

Ken Montero

On 06/23/2021 12:42 PM robert netzlof <rtnetzlof@...> wrote:


----- Original Message -----
From: "Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)" <claus@...>

B&O ds trussrod boxcar (72448 maybe?) at Pittsburg and Fairmont Fuel Company WV in 1907
https://wvhistoryonview.org/catalog/039674
72948 Look at the 4 digits visible on the end.

--
Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob



B&O twin hopper and (probably B&O W-1) quad hopper Atlas Coal Corp Flemington WV undated

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,
 
B&O twin hopper and (probably B&O W-1) quad hopper Atlas Coal Corp Flemington WV undated
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 

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