I know this is off topic but could anyone tell me when did the
railroads stop using the kero lanterns? You can reply off-list if you
like.
thanks
Fred Mullins

There is also an Australian outfit called Molco (?) which makes
a very nice diagonal panel roof.

Nick MOLOCO does indeed produce a gorgeous Stanray
diagonal panel ZU eave roof.

Kodos to Andy Carlson for offering kits and parts for steam era freight cars and manufacturers like Intermountain & Red Caboose who sell parts at very attractive prices.
Can I suggest that hobby shops that stock parts make their inventories available online to service mail orders?

Mike has censured many of messages criticizing the business practices of the Walthers company. They are in business to make money, not serve the hobby.

Clark, All,

I checked the Speedwitch Wabash gondola decals vs. the F&C decals
last night. The Speedwitch decals are appox. six inches shorter in
height than the F&C decals supplied with the gondola kit. I

discount using the SW set yet, as you should compare the F&C decals
with a prototype photo.

Anyway, thought you'd like to know. My Westerfield DS car with the
SW decals turned out quite nice IMHO.

John

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL


--- In STMFC@..., "golden1014" <golden1014@> wrote:

Hey Clark,

I'm halfway through building the same F&C car, although I'm doing
the ACL version. You're right--it's a nice car and the side/end
castings are pretty nice.

As for decals, I recently used a set of Speedwitch decals to

finish

a Wabash DS box car. Ted offers a Wabash set for the 65' mill gon
and the large WABASH lettering fits the Westerfield box just

and isn't as bulky as the Westerfield set.

I'll do a TLAR (That Looks About Right) check with Ted's set on

the

ACL car and let you know if that set could work for the 'Bash car.

John

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL

Hey Clark,

I'm halfway through building the same F&C car, although I'm doing
the ACL version. You're right--it's a nice car and the side/end
castings are pretty nice.

As for decals, I recently used a set of Speedwitch decals to

a Wabash DS box car. Ted offers a Wabash set for the 65' mill gon
and the large WABASH lettering fits the Westerfield box just right
and isn't as bulky as the Westerfield set.

I'll do a TLAR (That Looks About Right) check with Ted's set on

ACL car and let you know if that set could work for the 'Bash car.

John

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL

That was probably metallurgical grade coal or coke in the MP hoppers
out there. It may have come from Arkansas or Illinois.

Down here in south Texas, there was some lignite coal (quite nice
lignite coal on the I-GN at Rockdale, Texas - almost as good quality
as bitumenous), but no anthracite. It was used locally as fuel.
Also found in poorer quality at Lytle, Texas on MP.

The anthracite used in water treatment plants most certainly came
from Pennsylvania - it was specially cleaned, washed and graded for
that purpose.

There was some bitumenous coal on the T&P west of Ft Worth. It had
no special characteristics, other than for use as fuel. T&P rostered
some double offset-side hoppers in the steam era for this traffic.

There was/is some wierd, unique coal in a small area that was served
by the I-GN at Laredo, Texas. A shortline, Rio Grande & Eagle Pass,
ran northwest out of Laredo to a "cannel" coal field at Minera, Texas
on the Rio Grande. This was a waxey coal - I have no idea what it
was used for, but it had a specialty use during the steam era -
possibly as a component of varnishes. It was similar, but not
identical to, gilsonite in the Book Cliff area of Colorado.

Note that Piedras Negras, Mexico is across the river from Eagle Pass,
Texas. Piedras Negras means "black rock" in Spanish - coal, but not
the cannel type, despite the nearness to Minera. There was a huge
steel rolling mill on the Mexican side during the steam era. A now-
deceased friend purchased the RG&EP rail and equipment in 1942 so
that he could construct the AFbase at Del Rio - he could not obtain
heavy equipment any faster way in those times. Their only loco was
an ex-LV GE 44-tonner, I recall.

A.T. Kott

Guys,
I got this off the Desplaines Hobby website.
The Erie car is available as:
DPH276 thru DPH279
4#'s available - 78519, 78525, 78603, 78777
Viking Boxcar - Erie Black and White Large Diamond AAR Boxcar
Freight Car Red Car with White Lettering
Black Viking Roof with Black Ends
$17.98 each.

In response to another thread concerning parts,
Desplaines is a grocery store full of parts and decals.
They also deal on the internet. Many of my strolls down
Ron's aisles resulted in new projects and the further advancement
of my hobby skills. He keeps all of his detail parts out in the open
allowing you to hold and examine the parts.
Rob Manley




----- Original Message ----
From: bill_d_goat <billdgoat@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2007 10:58:28 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Des Plaines Hobbies Viking boxcar roof,

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@ ...>
wrote:

On Mar 8, 2007, at 3:34 PM, timboconnor@ ... wrote:

Yep, your brain cells are still hitting on all cylinders. :-) Ron

had

all
four road names. The C&EI cars had a "Buy War Bonds" logo... IIRC
some of the cars originally had black painted doors, a detail DPH

may

have overlooked.

In fact, there were two C&EI kits, one with the War Bonds slogan

and

one without.

Richard Hendrickson

FWIW, a few years ago I ordered the War Bonds C&EI car since I model
1943. It was a great kit to assemble.
Later I happened to be looking through some WWII era "Railroad"
magazines and found in one a reference about C&EI painting this
slogan on some cars, listing the car number of the first car to be so
painted. I checked my model and found that it had the same number.
DPH is to be commended for outstanding prototype research.

Speedwitch makes a Wabash gondola set now, it may have the right
size letters, if not the data.


At 3/9/2007 11:01 AM Friday, you wrote:

I'm halfway through building the same F&C car, although I'm

the ACL version.
John Golden

John,
I have a set of Mark Vaughan's box car decals. I didn't use them
because the large letters appear to be different on the gondola.

probably aren't. I really didn't notice how bad the F&C deacls

until a got them off the paper and on the darker model. Weathering

fix any screw up:)

I am going to try to paint the inside of the ends to'look'like

stamped. We'll see how it works out now that the car is assembled.

wish I'd thought of it before I put the thing together. I'm also

to make masks for individual boards for the inside sides and

them to see how that works. Again I should have thought of this

before assembly.
Clark Propst

On Mar 8, 2007, at 3:34 PM, timboconnor@... wrote:

Yep, your brain cells are still hitting on all cylinders. :-) Ron

all
four road names. The C&EI cars had a "Buy War Bonds" logo... IIRC
some of the cars originally had black painted doors, a detail DPH

have overlooked.

In fact, there were two C&EI kits, one with the War Bonds slogan

one without.

Richard Hendrickson

(if I remember correctly). Ron may have done C&O as well.

Tom Madden