We will be launching the N&W GKa battleship gon at Cocoa Beach. See photos at our web site www.westerfield.biz - Al Westerfield

Pat, is that a rebuilt reefer? I ask because of the heavy
underframe plus the sill details.

Tim O.

HI Lee,
I have the book,
I need other photos to assist with the building of the cars.

Sincerely, Rich Yoder
7 Edgedale Court
Wyomissing PA 19610-1913
www.richyodermodels.com
610-678-2834 after 6:00 pm est. until 10:00pm

Hi, Patricia,
We should be able to move stuff in at 8AM so I expect to open the doors to paying customers at 10AM. At least that's the goal.

Have a Happy New Year and a safe trip down. Hint: You will not need chains for your tires or a snow shovel....whatever snow is...

Actually, I know. Back in '60 I was riding in a car headed from Cookeville [ Tenn Tech ] to Oak Ridge on US 70 and when we got to Monterey the driver said, "Well...let's go to Oak Ridge" and turned the steering wheel to take the needed 90� turn at the intersection. The car, however, had other ideas and we slid straight through on the ice. Somehow we managed to avoid hitting anything and finally got going on the right road. When we got to Crab Orchard the highway goes up a bit and gets quite curvy and mountainous. We counted 11 semi trailers off the road...one halfway down the mountain and another on its side next to the road. Snow? Yep and the Cumberland Plateau seemed to have it when places to the east did not. Seems like last week and it happened 45 yrs ago. Scary.

Mike

I am building the Funaro NP 36' DS boxcar with "fish-belly" side sill,
and it states that by 1940, 345 of the 750 built in 1906 had been
renumbered and recieved "T" section trucks and AB brakes. Since I
model the mid-late 30's, I wonder if I should stick with K brake and 40-
ton arch bars? The color suggested is Floquil Tuscan, weathering to a
greyish brown with "some combinations of freight car red, roof brown
and various greys." I know from experience that F&C are not to be
trusted with such things, causing me to strip my GN truss rod box for a
repaint.
Any feedback on the trucks/brakes/Tuscan? Any on any other areas? I
looked on the Steam Era Freight Cars site, saw no photos, none at the
Fallen Flags site, and went back a year and a half in the archives
looking for info on the monad. This car doesn't show the monad... Why
would that be?

Dean Payne

Dear Mike,
We appreciate the clinic schedule. When will the vendor's room open?
Thanks,
Patricia

Steve,
That is not the easiest kit to start out with, I should know.
The August 2001 Model Railroader has a nice article on those cars,
written by Edward Beaudette. There is a photo on page 65 that shows
a door-and-a-half car with the wet-noodle spanning both doors. My
photocopy of the article is not very good, but the CV is centered,
you could probably use your photo of the double-door to get the
height right.
I decided to model the car running in the 30's, so I can't help you
on some other matters. If you search far enough back in the
archives, there was some discussion about this car, including the
proper trucks (the article claims the ECW 9074 70-ton "Bettendorf"
trucks are closest, but I think someone said that was a typo, the
number might be "9064". OTOH, I think the Proto trucks were an even
better suggestion, esp. if you want to run the car. (The ECW trucks
are styrene, and it is felt they might experience wear at the...
journals? YMMV.
Dean Payne (glad I could answer a question for once...)

--- In STMFC@..., "up4024" <thekays100@e...> wrote:

I have just completed my first resin kit, a Funaro and Camarlengo

6651 Central Vermont 41000 series door-and-a-half auto box. The web
site shows a photo of the completed car, with the lettering
applied. The

decal set included with the car includes the wet-noodle CV herald,
which is NOT shown. Since these cars lasted much longer than other
wood cars, I would like to show the last scheme, presumably with

the noodle, but I cannot find a photo. The closest I can find is a
double > door with the noodle spanning the doors.

Can anyone help?

Steve Kay

Charlie Vlk writes:

I was not trying to start a flame war,

Which is good because flame wars don't last long on the STMFC.

but if anyone thinks that the brass

imports or kits of 1930, 1940, 1950, 1960, 1970.or 1980 were equal to or
superior to
the level of kits (Westerfield, Sunshine, Chooch) or imports (Rich Yoder,
etc.) favored on this list I have to wonder.

Note that Charlie lists enterprises that generate frt cars...which, of course, is the only products that are in scope. And, given that, it would be difficult to disagree...particularly with respect to HO scale. As far as the other scales are concerned, other more learned opinions will have to be considered. And, I would tactfully remind the membership that ALL opinions are welcome...without recourse to criticism. I would like to emphasize that statement. Note also that the STMFC does not include narrow gauge frt cars.

We are living in the Golden Age of Model Railroading....

Charlie probably means to include all aspects of the hobby in this statement. While the issue of the entire hobby is NOT open for discussion here, I will note that, given the tremendous breadth of frt car quality available now plus the same for passenger cars, one would have difficulty disagreeing. As an aside, however, I would say that I don't quite agree with respect to brass steam locomotive imports. While those of today are probably superior to those of the past with respect to details, their running abilities suffer in general compared to those of my knowledge of the early '80s [ Sam ] to the late '80's. IMO. Now...before you begin a mad dash to the keyboard, we are not going to exercise a thread on brass steam power. My point was only to offer a supporting view to Charlie's if one considers only frt cars and passenger cars.

Since I've noted some mgt comments in this message I suppose one would have to conclude that I'm wearing two hats...that of a member and the head judge.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner

On Dec 30, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Steve Kay wrote:

I have just completed my first resin kit, a Funaro and Camarlengo 6651
Central Vermont 41000 series door-and-a-half auto box. The web site
shows a photo of the completed car, with the lettering applied. The
decal set included with the car includes the wet-noodle CV herald,
which is NOT shown. Since these cars lasted much longer than other
wood cars, I would like to show the last scheme, presumably with the
noodle, but I cannot find a photo. The closest I can find is a double
door with the noodle spanning the doors.

The noodle spanned the doors on the 41000-41999 series cars as well. I'm sending you a scan off-list.

Richard Hendrickson

--- In STMFC@..., "Steve and Barb Hile" <shile@m...> wrote:

I have a copy of a builder's photo of a UTLX X-5 tank car built in

1937, number 99138. It appears from other research to be part of
series 99106-99148. It lists SW CO as the location where the safety
valves were tested, and, apparently, where the car was built.

Does anyone recognize SW CO as a car builder?

A shot in the dark, but could it be Sherwin Williams Co? Probably not
where built but in the IRM collection is a car Sherwin Williams 42.
They ran a huge fleet, mostly leased or not, and I suspect did
restenciling of tank tests and air brakes in house.

Bob Kutella

I have a copy of a builder's photo of a UTLX X-5 tank car built in 1937, number 99138. It appears from other research to be part of series 99106-99148. It lists SW CO as the location where the safety valves were tested, and, apparently, where the car was built.

Does anyone recognize SW CO as a car builder?

Thanks in advance.

Steve Hile

For an area used to space launches, it gives a new meaning to the
term "moon shot"

Jerry Glow

I was not trying to start a flame war, but if anyone thinks that the brass imports or kits of 1930, 1940, 1950, 1960, 1970.or 1980 were equal to or superior to
the level of kits (Westerfield, Sunshine, Chooch) or imports (Rich Yoder, etc.) favored on this list I have to wonder.
I don't rely on Kalmbach for anything....except maybe for photographic evidence of what I speak.
I worked at All-Nation Hobby Shop in the late 60's so saw quite a bit of O Scale and HO, both older heritage equipment and
then-current imports and kits. The state of the art has progressed since then. Of course, over the years there were isolated craftsmen doing museum-quality work that would be hard to match even today (especially railroad shop apprentice models built as early as the late 1800s) but the general range of readily available kits and rtr equipment available today is light years ahead of what was normal only a few years ago.
We are living in the Golden Age of Model Railroading....
Charlie Vlk

I have just completed my first resin kit, a Funaro and Camarlengo 6651
Central Vermont 41000 series door-and-a-half auto box. The web site
shows a photo of the completed car, with the lettering applied. The
decal set included with the car includes the wet-noodle CV herald,
which is NOT shown. Since these cars lasted much longer than other
wood cars, I would like to show the last scheme, presumably with the
noodle, but I cannot find a photo. The closest I can find is a double
door with the noodle spanning the doors.

Can anyone help?

Steve Kay

--- In STMFC@..., "Jerry Dziedzic" <jerdz@e...> answered
my question about western stock cars on the Erie.

wow! Thanks again Jerry.

I knew Nickel Plate stock cars showed up on the Erie for 2 reasons.
One is RMC had a photo of Swift and NKP stock cars on the Erie, east
of Binghamtion I think. Two is that NKP had a large fleet of stock
cars for a railroad in the east.

It's too bad you didn't list CNW. They're my favorite with those
slitted ends.

Armour stock cars are soulless. Small fleet too compared to Swifts.

NYC had a pretty good sized stock car fleet in the east. I have an
overhead photo of an NYC stock car and an Erie stock car in an Erie
train. It's interesting that the roofs slope at slightly different
angles. Both roofs are made up of planks.

From the photos I've seen Swift had a lot of variety in their stock
cars. Maybe they got them from several different original owners
like FGE did. Any comments? Anyone ever contact Swifts about their
rail cars?

Ed

Tim O'Connor wrote:

From Rich Yoder, who imports O scale/Proto 48 models...

Hi All,
I am looking for some stock car photos.
They were classes SP-40-4 and SP-40-5. Owned by various roads under the
Harriman Empire.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Rich Yoder

This is too easy... <g>

Tony Thompson's book "Southern Pacific Freight Cars, Volume 1: Gondolas and Stock Cars" includes numerous photos of ALL the classes, including early CS (Common Standard) designs
http://www.signaturepress.com/SPF1.html

Reference pages 248-308. Filled with lots of photos, many classes from almost every side/angle you can imagine; plans, including reproduction of drawings for Class S-40-5 from the 1928 Car Builder's Cyc; lettering diagrams; HO scale plans for S-40-8, -9, and -10 classes; tables showing cars built, number in operation every five years up to 1960; there's literally tons of info!


Rob Sarberenyi

Denny wrote:

"John Morrell & Co. was either a successor company, or merely purchased a number of Tobin's plants
in the early '50s. A high official of the company 50 years ago was a family friend, neighbor, and
one-time tenant."

Currently owns the company and uses as a trade name.

When I was living in Vermont during the late 1970s-1980s I remember radio and tv ads from Capital
Disrict stations advertising Tobin's products. Tobin's First Prize. Quite tasty.

http://www.johnmorrell.com/tobinsfirstprize.shtml


Eric Petersson

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On Dec 30, 2005, at 7:43 AM, Don Worthy wrote:

Take a look at the shot in the files section of the CofGa yard Macon, Ga. There is a stock car in that shot. I'd like someone to tell me what kind it is.

Atlantic Coast Line 140200-140399 series.

Richard Hendrickson