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Re: Walthers Proto PRR X29b
naptownprr
Thank you. I stand corrected.
Jim
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------- No, the man's name was Edward Berwind. The name lives on in the Berwind Corporation, based in Philadelphia. They've gotten out of the coal mining business but still own coal lands and lease mining rights. They also have money in food processing equipment and some other lines I don't recall. From the Wikipedia article on the Berwind Corporation: It began as a partnership of Edward Julius Berwind, Charles Berwind, and Congressman Allison White and upon White's death became known as Berwind White Company in 1886. ----- Original Message ----- From: "naptownprr" <jhunter@...> To: "main" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 12:09:23 AM Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b Actually, I think Berwind is Windber flipped. I think the coal company came up with that one! Jim Hunter ________________________________ From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Jeffrey Gray <bigsix@...> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 11:22 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: [External] Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b This message was sent from a non-IU address. Please exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments from external sources. Windber, Pa. (Cambria County near Johnstown), was a company coal patch town. Windber is BERWIND flipped. In the 1990’s I was involved in a construction project in Windber and was fascinated that the Berwind-White Coal Company still had leased coal reserve holdings in that area in that era. FYI stuff! Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: robert netzlof<mailto:rtnetzlof@...> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 10:50 PM To: main<mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b Walthers has a history of pulling "facts" out of thin air. Years ago they claimed the Berwind-White Coal Co. was so named for their low smoke "white" coal when in fact Berwind and White were the two guys who started the corporation. That irked me then, this irks me now. -- Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob -- Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob |
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Re: Walthers Proto PRR X29b
robert netzlof <rtnetzlof@...>
No, the man's name was Edward Berwind. The name lives on in the Berwind Corporation, based in Philadelphia. They've gotten out of the coal mining business but still own coal lands and lease mining rights. They also have money in food processing equipment and some other lines I don't recall.
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From the Wikipedia article on the Berwind Corporation: It began as a partnership of Edward Julius Berwind, Charles Berwind, and Congressman Allison White and upon White's death became known as Berwind White Company in 1886. ----- Original Message -----
From: "naptownprr" <jhunter@...> To: "main" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 12:09:23 AM Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b Actually, I think Berwind is Windber flipped. I think the coal company came up with that one! Jim Hunter ________________________________ From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Jeffrey Gray <bigsix@...> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 11:22 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: [External] Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b This message was sent from a non-IU address. Please exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments from external sources. Windber, Pa. (Cambria County near Johnstown), was a company coal patch town. Windber is BERWIND flipped. In the 1990’s I was involved in a construction project in Windber and was fascinated that the Berwind-White Coal Company still had leased coal reserve holdings in that area in that era. FYI stuff! Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: robert netzlof<mailto:rtnetzlof@...> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 10:50 PM To: main<mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b Walthers has a history of pulling "facts" out of thin air. Years ago they claimed the Berwind-White Coal Co. was so named for their low smoke "white" coal when in fact Berwind and White were the two guys who started the corporation. That irked me then, this irks me now. -- Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob -- Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob |
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Re: M3 Tank - boxcar load
Jim Gates
There are photographs of 2 1/2 ton CCKW trucks being loaded/unloaded through the side door of automobile cars. 2 1/2 ton trucks and 1/4 ton trucks (jeeps) probably accounted for more US military vehicles manufactured during WWII than all others combined. Jim Gates On Thursday, July 15, 2021, 10:10:47 AM CDT, Ian Cranstone <lamontc@...> wrote: I'm thinking that these photos were related to some sort of experiment to see if automobile boxcars could be used in this kind of service. Flat cars would have been in high demand for all sorts of war-related cargos, but with the domestic automobile industry largely shut down for production of other war goods, there would have been a large fleet of automobile cars available for other uses. If light tanks could be accommodated, that would have been very useful – and as a bonus, their movements would have been less viewable. Of course, if the floorboards on the automobile cars couldn't take the load... but I'll bet they could accommodate armoured cars, and likely trucks of the day. Ian Cranstone On 2021-07-14 17:21, Andy Laurent via groups.io wrote:
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Re: Walthers Proto PRR X29b
naptownprr
Actually, I think Berwind is Windber flipped. I think the coal company came up with that one!
Jim Hunter
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Windber, Pa. (Cambria County near Johnstown), was a company coal patch town. Windber is BERWIND flipped. In the 1990’s I was involved in a construction project in Windber and was fascinated that the Berwind-White Coal Company still had leased coal reserve holdings in that area in that era. FYI stuff!
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From: robert netzlof
Walthers has a history of pulling "facts" out of thin air. Years ago they claimed the Berwind-White Coal Co. was so named for their low smoke "white" coal when in fact Berwind and White were the two guys who started the corporation. That irked me then, this irks me now.
-- Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob
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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b
Jeffrey Gray <bigsix@...>
Windber, Pa. (Cambria County near Johnstown), was a company coal patch town. Windber is BERWIND flipped. In the 1990’s I was involved in a construction project in Windber and was fascinated that the Berwind-White Coal Company still had leased coal reserve holdings in that area in that era. FYI stuff!
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From: robert netzlof
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 10:50 PM To: main Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b
Walthers has a history of pulling "facts" out of thin air. Years ago they claimed the Berwind-White Coal Co. was so named for their low smoke "white" coal when in fact Berwind and White were the two guys who started the corporation. That irked me then, this irks me now.
-- Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob
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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b
robert netzlof <rtnetzlof@...>
Walthers has a history of pulling "facts" out of thin air. Years ago they claimed the Berwind-White Coal Co. was so named for their low smoke "white" coal when in fact Berwind and White were the two guys who started the corporation. That irked me then, this irks me now.
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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b
Randy Hammill
Yeah, this is their reasoning:
These moved on dedicated freight trains with expedited schedules, covering the 900 miles between New York and Chicago in as little as 32 hours.
With all-new tooling to capture the look of the prototypes, the WalthersProto X29b features the correct larger body, 7' Youngstown doors, a diagonal panel roof and 4/3/1 Dreadnaught ends, and come finished in the early silver scheme with the circle Keystone. Although I’m not a Pennsy expert, I haven’t heard of such trains. I’ll take the word of those of you more informed. I also have no need for a caboose, of course. Randy Hammill Prototype Junction http://prototypejunction.com Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954 http://newbritainstation.com |
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Re: Who makes decals for HO USRA SS boxcars?
Randy Hammill
Definitely Westerfield. Much better than the Tichy ones, and Andrew has most roads that owned them.
Randy -- — Randy Hammill Prototype Junction http://prototypejunction.com Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954 http://newbritainstation.com |
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Re: Article: Everybody Profits By The Reefer
Ray Hutchison
Whoa! You found he long lost Cheech and Chong movie!
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Photo: View Of Southern Gondola 187070 Underframe
David
This is a nice, uncommon view of Southern's first generation of steel gondolas. These were largely rebuilt into composite cars by the mid-late 1920s, so it is nice to see an original version with underframe details and the windup shafts for the drop doors.
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SEEKING A SMALL ITEM
WILLIAM PARDIE
There was a flurry of posts on the Grandt Line Oil Distributor a while back. I was fortunate In having purchased one of the original kits and a second from the San Juan release. With this I eiected to do a six tank facility with three vertical and three horizontal tanks. I wanted flat tops on the vertical tanks. The two kits left me one short of ends. I would prefer to buy a pop-in as opposed to cutting a perfect circle. Hopefully someone might have an end to sell. Thanks: Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone |
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Re: Who makes decals for HO USRA SS boxcars?
Try Westerfield
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Fenton On Jul 15, 2021, at 6:01 PM, Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...> wrote:
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Who makes decals for HO USRA SS boxcars?
I know Tichy bought out some of Jerry Glows decals but have read they are pretty thick. Speedwitch also sold to another company. Any suggestions on an accurate, quality HO decal set for the USRA SS boxcar? PRR or other roads that owned them would be fine
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Re: Photo: View Of Southern Gondola 187070 Underframe
CJ Riley <cjriley42@...>
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Re: Photo: Southern Boxcar 163172 (1925)
lrkdbn
I suspect this was in the Tri-State Tornado of Mar.18 1925. Note the damage to the shop buildings.
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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b
C’mon Schuyler it not like Walthers would put the scheme on a totally wrong car…..oh wait. :)
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On Jul 15, 2021, at 12:58 PM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:
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Photo: L&N Boxcar 1991 (Circa 1915)
Photo: L&N Boxcar 1991 (Circa 1915) Photo from the Indiana Album website: https://indianaalbum.pastperfectonline.com/photo/E1C722E5-CACF-4736-93E0-080254960836 Click on the photo to enlarge it. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b
Schuyler Larrabee
And it could very well mean "the old tooling was so worn that we just HAD to recut it." Doesn't mean it was "new AND IMPROVED tooling."
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And in sets of a dozen at a time??? Seriously? That's nuts. Schuyler -----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 12:21 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [RealSTMFC] Walthers Proto PRR X29b Bruce Smith wrote: "I will point out that the latest posting from Walthers says "New tooling" for the X29B, whatever that means." Craig Miller on the PRR list pointed out that the "new tooling" likely pertains to the passenger cars for the General. Ben Hom |
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Photo: Southern Boxcar 163172 (1925)
Photo: Southern Boxcar 163172 (1925) Photo from the Indiana Album website: https://indianaalbum.pastperfectonline.com/photo/22A4CAB1-4565-45C4-B918-424967433100 Click on the photo to enlarge it. Appears to be a double-sheathed boxcar with metal ends, Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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Photo: Minneapolis & St. Louis Two-Bay Hopper 60019
Photo: Minneapolis & St. Louis Two-Bay Hopper 60019 Photo from Classic Trains website: https://www.trains.com/ctr/photos-videos/photo-of-the-day/classic-coal-hauler/ Built in 1936. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA |
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