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Paint shipments
Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
I have been corresponding with the folks at Benjamin Moore paints about their archives and the shipment of paint or paint constituents in the early to mid 1900's. They are doing some archival digging as part of their own anniversary plans, and were able to tell me that for shipments from the Toronto (vicinity), Ontario, plant to Vancouver B.C., an all sea route was taken rather than shipment by tank car (harrumph). (From a 1928 BM scrap book) I have followed up with further questions, but thought I'd try a few here in case someone else has already done some looking into the subject.
As I understand it, BM paints were not produced on the west coast in Canada until the 50's. Instead they had a warehouse out here. On that basis, and given the movement of product by ship, what would they have transported and contained how? I am guessing it would be base materials (just as one buys now, but of different composition) and pigments. For the base, I am assuming 55 gallon drums. For pigment??? I have no idea of the volume of the shipments back in 1950 - maybe they will be able to advise. I wonder why they wouldn't load the product into box cars for such a trip? Meanwhile, locally, General Paint was a local producer of paint products from the early 1900's. I have no information on them. Sherwin Williams had a Canadian presence too. (SW even had a US tank car fleet.) Not sure if US product was shipped north in that case. So, generally, what products might one expect to be shipped to a paint manufacturer? And by a paint manufacturer? And what types of freight cars would they be load it in? Rob Kirkham |
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Re: old question about roof walks
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
I wrote:
The very first ones in 1939 were galvanized.I should have clarified this: I meant the first steel grid running boards. I don't think the earlier Alan Wood solid ones were galvanized. Does anyone know for sure? Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Re: Culotta article on SP B-50-13, -14 box cars
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Jim Hayes wrote:
I've been clipping the Essential Freight Cars articles and have them all inYou can, of course, still get that back issue from Carstens if you want color, etc. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Re: Culotta article on SP B-50-13, -14 box cars
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
One has to ask! Tony, Would you have your books unpacked any sooner than theWell, of course, Paul: that was on day 1. (Partly because I had an excellent new library space ready for them.) Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Re: old question about roof walks for new members
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Rich Yoder wrote:
The steel roof walks at a point in time were also paintedThe very first ones in 1939 were galvanized. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Re: NP box car #30995
Scott Pitzer
I took that to mean, WHILE IN LCL SERVICE they didn't go off line-- after that, they were just box cars-- long weird looking box cars. (That picture reminds me of some book illustrations based on "impressions" in the artist's mind!)
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From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> Sent: Oct 24, 2005 10:16 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] NP box car #30995 Richard, the color photograph in question was taken in 1971, in White River Junction, Vermont! Ten cars numbered 30990-30999. They were rebuilt in 1965 by extending Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Culotta article on SP B-50-13, -14 box cars
Jim and Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
I've been clipping the Essential Freight Cars articles and have them all in
a binder. Except #2 on the GN boxcars. I remember having and reading the article but it disappeared before I started the binder. Can anyone scan and send that article to me? Jim Hayes Portland Oregon |
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Re: air compressors
Steve,
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I have been using a Campbell-Hausfeld (sp) Portapal compressor with the necessary attached air tank for 25 years. It is oiless, a little noiseybut has never fiven me a problem. I have Sears pressure regulator and water trap with brass quick disconnect connectorsjust before the Paasche air line. Series H-3, -2, -1 airbrush single action. I have made my peace with Poly Scale paint and I use a Dick Blick strainer/funnel to keep the chunks and debris out of the nozzle. In my early days as a graphic arts camerman I used and rebuilt several oil thye compressors. They're messy and unnecessary. When the C-H dies, I'll probably get a nice Craftsman and run an external pipe outside to inflate the 17"ers on the focus SVT, which hauls the steam era freight cars to Napervile and would love to see what it can do in saloms against a certain Suburu WRC. Sincerely, Rob Manley Midwest Mod-U-Trak "Born in the Steam era and lovin freight cars!!" ----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen A. Tucker To: STMFC@... Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:45 PM Subject: [STMFC] air compressors I searched the archives for info on an air compressor to power a Paasche air eraser and inflate SUV tires. One issue that was not addressed is whether or not an oil lubed or oil-less compressor is preferable for airbrushing and bead blasting. Or, does it matter? Thanks, Steve Tucker Prescott Valley, AZ SPONSORED LINKS Worldwide travel insurance Travel trailer insurance International travel insurance Travel insurance usa Travel medical insurance Csa travel insurance ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "STMFC" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: STMFC-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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[Fwd: RE: Toll Questions]
Tom Olsen <tmolsen@...>
In reference to Tim's message about the tolls on the Illinois Tollway's,
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read the answer to me from the Toll Services person for the Illinois Tollway regarding EZ pass use on the Tollway. The Illinois Tollway joined EZ pass this summer. So we Easterners with EZ pass should not have to carry 3 tons of change this trip! I plan to have a copy of their email to me as reference when I come out should there be any difficulty. Tom Olsen 7 Boundary Road, West Branch Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479 (302) 738-4292 tmolsen@... -------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Toll Questions Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:18:13 -0500 From: "Illinois Tollway Toll Services" <tollservices@...> To: <tmolsen@...> Dear Thomas, Good morning! You can now use your EZ Pass on the Illinois Tollway. Thank you for using the Illinois Tollway Debra Toll Services -----Original Message----- From: tmolsen@... [mailto:tmolsen@...] Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 2:22 AM To: Illinois Tollway Toll Services Subject: Toll Questions Name: Thomas M. Olsen Email: tmolsen@... Comments: Good morning, I will be traveling from the Indiana Tollway to Naperville 10/25 to 11/2. at present I understand that Illinois will be joining EZ Pass soon, but possibly not in time for me to use it. Has there been any further information regarding addoption of EZ Pass in Illinois? Thank you for your consideration in this matter! Thomas M. Olsen Newark, Delaware, 197117479 Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Naperville Question Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:26:07 -0400 From: Tim Gilbert <tgilbert@...> Reply-To: STMFC@... To: STMFC@... References: 1 For those driving from the East, it would be advisable to make a pit stop at the last rest stop on the Indiana Toll Road - according to Rand McNally, construction is still going on I-80/I-94 south of Chicago. Also, tolls on the Illinois Taxway have increased from forty cents to eighty cents per Toll (a total of $2.40 for the three tolls) according to the Taxway's Web Site unless you have I-Pass which is, apparently, good only in Illinois. Hoping that the Web Site is incorrect, Tim Gilbert |
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Re: Culotta article on SP B-50-13, -14 box cars
Rob Adams
Hi Tony;
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You're welcome. Glad to help. It certainly would be nice to have all of those articles in one volume, though I don't want Ted to have any reasons to stop writing new ones. So many neat cars, so little time... Kind regards, Rob Anthony Thompson wrote: Rob Adams wrote:It is the September, 2003 issue. Pages 76-80.Thanks for the prompt help, Rob. Hopefully someday Ted will --
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Re: ammonia cars
rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
Thanks everybody. We were thinking fertilizer and the Atlas model.
Thanks again, Clark Propst |
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Re: ammonia cars
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
It's clear that Gorrie received the first U.S. patent for mechanical refrigeration, but the first patent anywhere was issued to Jacob Perkins in 1834 by Great Britain (though Perkins was an American). Gorrie was also the first to patent a system using ammonia, though other gases were known to work the same way. Whether Gorrie knew about Perkins' invention seems unclear.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Re: old question about roof walks for new members
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Spoke with a good friend of mine last evening Phil Schuster from Cleveland Ohio. Says that the wooden roof walks were always painted. They took a lot of abuse from the weather. The steel roof walks at a point in time were also painted - until someone got the bright idea to galvanize the steel ones. Rich ----- Original Message -----
From: "ed_mines" <ed_mines@...> To: <STMFC@...> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:41 PM Subject: [STMFC] old question about roof walks for new members Here's an old question about roof walks for new members - Were many |
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Re: ammonia cars
Gregg Mahlkov <mahlkov@...>
Tony,
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See this URL about the state museum in Apalach: http://www.floridastateparks.org/johngorriemuseum/default.cfm Gregg Mahlkov ----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Thompson" <thompson@...> To: <STMFC@...> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] ammonia cars Gregg Mahlkov wrote:Any sort of industry that would manufacture ice for its own use or forGosh, all these years I understood it was invented in Germany in |
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air compressors
Stephen A. Tucker <stephentucker@...>
I searched the archives for info on an air compressor to power a
Paasche air eraser and inflate SUV tires. One issue that was not addressed is whether or not an oil lubed or oil-less compressor is preferable for airbrushing and bead blasting. Or, does it matter? Thanks, Steve Tucker Prescott Valley, AZ |
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Re: Culotta article on SP B-50-13, -14 box cars
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Rob Adams wrote:
It is the September, 2003 issue. Pages 76-80.Thanks for the prompt help, Rob. Hopefully someday Ted will collect them all as a book. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Re: NP box car #30995
Richard, the color photograph in question was taken in 1971, in
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White River Junction, Vermont! Ten cars numbered 30990-30999. They were rebuilt in 1965 by extending |
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Re: Culotta article on SP B-50-13, -14 box cars
Rob Adams
Tony;
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It is the September, 2003 issue. Pages 76-80. Kind regards, Rob Adams Anthony Thompson wrote: I don't have my back issues of RMC unpacked yet. Does anyone --
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Culotta article on SP B-50-13, -14 box cars
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
I don't have my back issues of RMC unpacked yet. Does anyone with them handy have the reference for Ted's article on the cars in the subject line? TIA.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Re: NC&StL flat car (Tichy) trucks
Don Worthy
Hello Garrett. You, no doubt, have more information on the NC&StL than I do. Is the Intermountain 40ft. war emergency drop bottom gon correct for a NC&StL car? I took 2 kits in a trade and they are neatly lettered. I'll hate to repaint/ letter them but, if they aren't close....
Thanks Don Worthy "Garrett W. Rea" <Garrett.Rea@...> wrote: Bruce, Mont et al: Don't make the same mistake I did. The NC car is black with whitewith white lettering and only when I inquired of NC authority StevenJohnson did I learn of my error.I spoke with Steve Johnson at lenght about these and other cars this past April before James Bilbrey and I put together our NC&StL freight car modelling clinc and thick booklet this past May. Steve's comments than and again this weekend along with builder and in- service photo review still steer us to oxide red for the cars. NC cars also had their trucks painted when new so they will cast the same tint. One of the photos was taken in TN back during WWII with AC&F tanks (the armored military type) as a load. I've been working on a couple Tichy 40' flat car kits (AC&F, 1923NC&StL prototype) and I have decided to model one as an NC&StL car and oneas a CN car. My question is what trucks are appropriate for these carscirca 1944?There were actually two classes: The ones you mention are the FM-8, 70100-70199, built by AC&F in 1923. The others were FM-9, 70200-70299, built by AC&F in 1926. The FM-8s used Standard ARA trucks, James used the Accurail ones. The FM-9s used Dahlman trucks, I used the ECW ones. All of this info comes from NC&StL diagram sheets and builder's photos. The only mod to the kit is adding end stake pockets, I just cut holes in the deck during assemlby for this. Good luck- Garrett Rea Nashville, TN There is a builders photo of NC&StL at the RPI (pay) site http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/rolling-stock/Flats/Flat-cars-NC&StL-like- Tichy-28-cyc.jpgspring package (4 visible with the center 2 protruding more). I would --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "STMFC" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: STMFC-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. |
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